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UkrainianGuy
17-09-2008, 07:13 AM
The Carbon Tax LIE



- "Just another tax we do not need!
This is a much bigger deal than even the gun registery
and National Energy Program. Dion has no idea how
much it will cost to administer... just billions! Retirees
who can barely afford to heat their homes now will
be hit the hardest as they don't make enough to
qualify for any income tax rebate. "


- "Keep this going the bastards in ottawa get
30% raise and we get 2% The word seniors
in canada is a forbidden word plus forgotten
by the greedy "







This rumble is now moving across the country and will gain force.


Please don't let this happen any further in Canada. Canada emits only 2% of the world's supply of Greenhouse Gases and 52% of that comes from the Oil Sands Plants.

Automotive emissions are less than 20% of the 48% balance of Canada's 2% of the World Outcome. Do the math, it's such an insignificant amount, it's a joke.

Our fuel prices are now $6.75 per Gallon, equivalent to $6.00 per gallon U.S. When Canadians realize what a jackpot the politicians can get us into by supporting a Carbon Tax, they will be out to get any politician that supports this cause. Dion, Campbell etc. will regret the day they devised this scheme. Americans are screaming at $4.00 a gallon. Our provincial and federal governments are ripping us off with high taxes on fuel now. This is such a cash cow they don't want to stop. Stop excessive taxation and giving our money away abroad. We need more support and tax relief for our senior's and baby boomers now retiring and trying to find a fixed income level they can exist upon after working all their lives and paying heavily into the system.

And I am not an Liberal or NDP supporter.. I am a Senior and a middle of the road conservative and we will be a majority in Canada for the next 20 years, so politicians, get smart and support us.

Do some hard thinking about future and protect our seniors and all the population from the excessive costs we are facing now and in the future with more taxes.. Technology will fix the Oil Sands problem as they are working on a fix now to reduce that source in the future. Why us with these programs at this time????

Brian Morris, A concerned Sr. and loyal Canadian, Kelowna BC..


Now, a carbon Tax.

Politicians have, in the past, used that old bullshit phrase of 'cutting taxes' to get you to vote for them. Now, Stephan Dionne, has come up with a new wrinkle on that old lie : Tax your heating oil and anything else you burn to move your food and everything else that you have always had in your life... but, he'll lower your income taxes.



CONSIDER THIS from a one person who has bothered to do the homework:

When a politician's lips move, I know he's probably lying. Mr. Dion says his carbon tax will be revenue neutral. So, I went online and
found a carbon calculator and keyed in the annual energy consumption for our household and learned we produce 17 tons of greenhouse gas. Fully 60% of this usage is for electricity which we use to heat our home.

I have already improved insulation in my walls and replaced my windows and doors; use the new 'twirley' lights and ensured that my appliances are all Energy Star products. In the past 20 years, these measures reduced my electricity usage from 24,000 Kw Hrs per year to 16,000 Kw Hrs per year last years. What is my reward for this improved efficiency?

My power bill is unchanged from what it was 20 years ago. But, my power bill would attract a carbon tax of $104 in year one of Mr. Dion's plan and $ 416 in year four. My power bill would rise from $166 per month to $210 per month
in year four.

Since I live on a fixed income consisting of CPP and Old Age Security, my income tax bill runs at less than $200 per year. So, for my household, Mr. Dion's 'revenue neutral' carbon tax will cost me $416 per year less income tax reductions of about $10 per year.

Revenue neutral? In a pig's eye! This is a tax on seniors living on fixed incomes.. Well, Mr. Dion, you haven't got a snowball's chance in
hell of ever getting my vote. I hope everyone else takes five minutes to run the same calculations I did and vote to send this joker to the political boneyard.

Jon C. Coates - 70 Ridgevalley Rd. - Halifax, N.S. - B3P 2J9



DON'T BUY INTO THE CARBON TAX !

DON'T BELIEVE ANY POLITICIAN FROM ANY PARTY!

Remember when they brought in the National Income Tax. They promised that it would remain in effect only untill all of Canada's World War One Debt was repaid. Fooled us good. Debt was repaid, but the tax never came off and will be with us for all eternity. How about this Lie, Trudeau imposed a 5% tax on every litre of Gas in order to establish a National Oil Company called Petero Canada. He swore that this tax would come off as soon as Petro Canada was up and running. And so it came to pass, Petro Canada was established, It was sold to private hands, the enormous cash windfall was frttered away AND HIS 5% (plus, plus) still adorns our pumps to this very day. Now how is this for a con job? Take our BC Premier Campbell, PULEEZE. He truly believes that most British Columbians are brain dead. You will keep paying a yearly escalating carbon tax at the pump and you recieve a reduction in your provincial Income Tax. The new Political Buzz Word is 'Revenue Nuetral' Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha. Should this not be called what it truly is. 'RECYCLING YOUR MONEY' Just Think Folks, Another Bureaucracy eating up our our hard earned cash to administer a losers dream.

And Remember, once a goverment gets addicted to a Tax Grab, and you let them get away with it, You have handed them a Carte Blanche ticket to impose new taxes, to keep raising existing ones and use it to buy your votes to boot. If we condone all this, than Premier Cambell is right in assuming that we are all BRAIN DEAD in BC.

Walt Grochmal

Seth
17-09-2008, 07:43 AM
I strongly agree with the "DON'T BELIEVE ANY POLITICIAN FROM ANY PARTY!" part

Bowlcut
17-09-2008, 08:58 AM
What the author fails to mention is that 2% of these emissions come from just. 0.5% of the world's populations.

Want to know one reason why gas is more north of the border? It is not because of taxes rather because of refining capacity. Canada still exports raw crude south of the border to be refined and there are plans for a new refinery in Dakota to turn Canadian oil into gas.

We can argue all we want about whether this carbon tax is a good idea, but nobody can deny that fresh water is far more valuable than oil. That is why something has to be done about industrial pollution not only in the Athabasca River, but St Lawrence, etc.

I would also like to know how Canada is "giving our money away abroad"?

Gettin'r'round
17-09-2008, 09:40 AM
It's simply a wealth distribution scheme. Take money from working people and give it to those who don't in exchange for voting Liberal.

wrought
17-09-2008, 10:38 AM
lol, the people that post political chain letters will be the next ones against the wall after we're done with the politicians.

I'm voting for the CBLA. Down wit da cauzway! :D

UkrainianGuy
17-09-2008, 01:57 PM
let me guess u got this email too!

LOL

wrought
17-09-2008, 02:53 PM
let me guess u got this email too!

LOL

Nah, my spam filters work. :D :puff

UkrainianGuy
17-09-2008, 02:56 PM
sometimes it takes bullshit liek this to wake some NON VOTERS up out there.. myself included. I havent voted since i was 18... i believe in voting for the party you want to win, for the beliefs they fight for... if neither party has those qualities don't vote....

.... reason for not exercising my right as a Canadian.

wrought
17-09-2008, 03:25 PM
if neither party has those qualities don't vote....

.... reason for not exercising my right as a Canadian.

"I believe if you vote, you have no right to complain. People like to twist that around – they say, 'If you don't vote, you have no right to complain', but where's the logic in that? If you vote and you elect dishonest, incompetent people into office who screw everything up, you are responsible for what they have done. You caused the problem; you voted them in; you have no right to complain. I, on the other hand, who did not vote, who in fact did not even leave the house on election day, am in no way responsible for what these people have done and have every right to complain about the mess you created that I had nothing to do with" - George Carlin

....personally I can't stand Harper and I would bet if Dion dumps the whole carbon tax thing and promises a tax cut instead Harper would be out on his a$$....promoting a new tax during a campaign is more effective at ensuring a loss than conceding.

Bowlcut
17-09-2008, 07:38 PM
If no party represents your views get off your lazy and spoil your ballot ;)

tex
17-09-2008, 10:12 PM
Canadian politics absolutely bewilder me......i need to start educating myself about the parties up hurrrrr

BAM
17-09-2008, 10:37 PM
If no party represents your views get off your lazy and spoil your ballot ;)

I disagree.
Democracy is an Illusion.

I refuse to participate.

UkrainianGuy
17-06-2009, 07:21 PM
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UkrainianGuy
17-06-2009, 07:23 PM
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UkrainianGuy
17-06-2009, 07:24 PM
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17-06-2009, 07:25 PM
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UkrainianGuy
17-06-2009, 07:33 PM
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