How to control Estrogen. . . while on 2.5g's. . .

[MoooBaby]

Hey guys. . .here's a random question. . I get test pretty damn cheap. . .say I wanted to run 2.5g's starting at 220lbs bodyweight. I want to ensure I have managable estro levels.

I've gone into highish ranges in cycles before but I wanna give this a shot. . .I don't want zero estrogen . . just a managable amount. . .anyone have a good reccomendation?

Going to run the cycle for 16 weeks.

like this.

1-3weeks 1 gram
3-4 1.5 grams
4-6 2grams.
7-12 2.5 grams
12-14 1 gram
14-16 .25grams

PCT for 4 weeks.


10meals a day with

50grams protien from food
50grams carbs from food
30grams healthy fat from nuts/oils

BCAA/Glutamine in high dose post workout with high glycemic carbs and the rest is good healthy clean food. . ie chicken salmon etc.

3x omega 3 pills
2 x evening primrose
1 multivitimin
200mg rla
1gram vitimin c
coral calcium 1200mg

above supplements 3 x day

one meal in the middle of the night.

6 day split training

30 min cardio a day 3 x week

[Mr.Freeze]

2.5g. of Test ??? why so much??? Thats 10ml a week...

[Big D]

I think you need alot of help ;)

[Mr Ontario]

He wants to look like you :) Ya...just because you got the test cheap...hope that's not the only reason why you want to run such a high amount!



2.5g. of Test ??? why so much??? Thats 10ml a week...

[Mr.Freeze]

lol :hu

[gustavo77]

Well i'll leave the flames to others since they have no idea what you experience is. But if you want to control estro on those doses you will need at least a full dose of any one of the three A.I.'s (Aromasin, Arimidex or letro) per day. So 25mg, 1mg or 2.5mg respectively. I prefer adex on cycle and aroma for pct but everyone is different. Start with a full dose and go from there, as NO ONE will be able to tell you exactly how much you will need on those doses or any doses for that matter. Everyone is different and you will just have to go by trial and error. Those doses i gave you would be a decent starting point though... good luck.

[tony_canuck]

why would you do that much? are you extremely experienced? if so, how did you handle the high dosages before? you shouldn't just jump to those levels without knowing how you will react.

[MoooBaby]

I've been cycling for a few years.
Last one was

1g test /wk
600 tren /wk


ended up growing VERY well but was a bit of a nutbar emotionally. . also was on the edge of progesterone induced gyno. . I'm sure I was close with the estro too. . I was on only 20mg of nolva at those doses

I've allways needed a lil more than most to grow.

Training is pretty on par .. . been in the gym 10 years.

Diet could allways be better but. . I can't seem to eat more than 10 times a day. . more than that and I wanna cry everytime I have to eat lol.

5'10 and 240lbs at the end of the last cycle.

I guess I have to admit. . I've just seen a few friends hit the 1.5-2.5 gram range with test and get amazing results. . .
I could probably go with less but I'll see how I feel and adjust as I go.

Keep in mind I could handle 600mg/wk of tren without feeling too uncomfortable.

[IronRobi]

There is a huge jump between 1g and 2.5g of test. You also say you were a "nutbar emotionally" and then say "without feeling too uncomfortable"....

As much as I don't encourage you to try, it's your body and your decision. Listen to Gus and be sure to visit your doctor for blood tests, etc..

[xxSCHiSMxx]

I ran a Test only cycle @ ~ 1.5g EW. In my case, just turned out to be waste of Test. I'm sure I could have gotten same gains from 1/2 that amount. Well I know I wouldn't of gotten so much bacne. :p .. The sides at the dose weren't worth any extra gains I made. Everyone is diff.

I much prefer 500mg of test stacked w/ EQ, Deca, etc.

Keep the board posted on your cycle. This should be interesting. Like mentioned, there's a hella difference between 1g and 2.5g. Take gustavo's advice on controlling estrogen. Good luck.

[MoooBaby]

I'll take everyones advice and of course have BP and blood pressure checked once a week.

I think I'll run accutane for 4 months before hand. as well. I'm planning on this for early next year so right now I'm saving up for lots of food and for any extra's I need a long the way.

I know it's a BIG difference between 1 and 2.5 grams. I hope I am prepared.

As far as feeling nutbar and controlling it I was ok on all that tren. . . so I think I"ll handle the test.

Has anyone ever become depressed on that much test?
Has anyone here ever run that much?
Was it worth it?

I may run it with 20iu/slin a day
and 5 iu/growth a day.
probably 20mg/nolva
1mg arimidex/day

[physique]

Sphinx? is this you? sounds like something he would do

i think we are all having a joke pulled on us. these dosages are ****ing crazy!!! and for what? too look good at the bar. no wonder bodybuilders have a bad name with the general public

[guest]

I ran a Test only cycle @ ~ 1.5g EW. In my case, just turned out to be waste of Test. I'm sure I could have gotten same gains from 1/2 that amount. Well I know I wouldn't of gotten so much bacne. :p .. The sides at the dose weren't worth any extra gains I made. Everyone is diff.



truth.

[MoooBaby]

Sphinx? is this you? sounds like something he would do

i think we are all having a joke pulled on us. these dosages are ****ing crazy!!! and for what? too look good at the bar. no wonder bodybuilders have a bad name with the general public



Naw it's not sphinx. . .

I don't go to the bar, I eat sleep **** train and eat.
Ah well. . .if this many guys figure it's a bad idea. . it likely is. .

[Redz]

I wouldnt run Nolva with a 19nor like you did last time around, the tren may have caused you some problems last go around but next time try taking some caber with it and you will likely have no problems.

[MoooBaby]

I wouldnt run Nolva with a 19nor like you did last time around, the tren may have caused you some problems last go around but next time try taking some caber with it and you will likely have no problems.

Yeah I ran the nolva because I get estro probs around the 1g mark. I wouldn't run more tren than I did this time ever but. . .if I do a similar cycle, that is a good suggestion.