pct recovery?

[tex]

so my sex drive never went away......i have wicked morning wood ( i know you all wanted to hear that).....but my nuts are still atrophied.....I'm on my 2nd week of nolvadex and am doing it 40/40/20/20.......not sure when to expect my boys to plump up again.....any ideas?

[Diesel_250]

start taking 3000mg of trib and run it for a good 2 months after off all AAS

[BAM]

so my sex drive never went away......i have wicked morning wood ( i know you all wanted to hear that).....but my nuts are still atrophied.....I'm on my 2nd week of nolvadex and am doing it 40/40/20/20.......not sure when to expect my boys to plump up again.....any ideas?

How long since your last shot?
What was it?
How long were you on?

[spiderman7]

You didn't use HCG? Could take years or it may feel like it. Maybe you just need more time or some Clomid.

[AlbertaBeef]

Yup, spidy nailed 'er,
Get some clomid, a box of kleenex and an Oprah magazine :p

[Monka]

All depends how hard your body shuts down, clomid should help, imo better then nolva, only reason i had nolva was for water retention, and clomid for helping to get back to normal, but for ME took, about a month i'd say, when i used that stuff... lol now dont care..haha

[tex]

i was on 400mg test e. for 11 weeks 5 weeks of var towards the end @ 60 mg per day......then 2 weeks of test p @ 50 per day to kickstop my cycle.......ill be 2 weeks into pct on wed......i do have a shitload of clomid but i didnt think id need it since this is my 1st cycle........

[BAM]

IMHO and from what I understand from your posts..

You should have done the prop at the end for at least 3 weeks on its own and then started the clomid for 25-30 days starting 4 days after the last prop shot. 2-3 weeks after that you should be for the most part, recovered.

Sounds to me like you have a few weeks of clomid left to do, although seems like you started your pct too early to me. Do 2 more weeks of clomid and then a few weeks after that you should be back.. (shrug)

Works for me anyway, then again I use an ai during my cycle.

p.s.
I dont think you need more that 50mg/day of clomid.

[tex]

i really dont want to use clomid.....might have to tho.....i dont know anyone that can get hcg......

[BAM]

i really dont want to use clomid.....might have to tho.....i dont know anyone that can get hcg......

HCG should be use during the cycle anyway, not after.
(from what I have read)

Which brand of clomiphene do you have?

[gsxr750]

Curious why that would be, no HCG post cycle? Anyone explain..

[Seth]

as far as I know, HCG is suppressive. It replaces luteinizing hormone (LH), effectively suppressing it. LH is part of the process for you to make your own test. So you make test but as soon as you stop HCG, you drop. So you're right, you use it during cycle and early pct. Its good to "kick start" your test production, but the body has to make the work for itself

[gsxr750]

That makes complete sense, thank you Seth..

[BAM]

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[tex]

xxx is what im using......

[gustavo77]

Tex, just run 50mg of clomid per day for 2-3 weeks. Your berries should be plump by then, if not then you may need a little HCG. But honestly if you have morning wood then either the test has not cleared yet or you are recovering and your boyz are not too far away.

[tex]

shweet......

[tex]

and im pretty damn sure the test cleared....ive dropped about 10lbs in the past week.....strength is still up there where it was tho.......

[gustavo77]

and im pretty damn sure the test cleared....ive dropped about 10lbs in the past week.....strength is still up there where it was tho.......

Good, then your berries should start to ripen soon...

[tex]

dats what i wanted to hear.....thanks chief......and everyone else that dropped me some knowledge....

[GTZ3]

Theres no scientific evidence indicating you need anymore than 20mg nolvadex. If you want to keep it simple bro just cruise for another 4 weeks @ 20 mgs a day of nolva.

A few studies ive read have indicated that clomid(@ 150mgs ed) an nolva(@ 20mgs ed) are both pretty much identical with respect to increasing Total Test --> but nolva will actually upregulate GNRH secretion from the hypothalamus and increase GNRH sensitivty at the pituitary. This is because clomid actually has estrogenic effects in the higher centres, but nolva is anti estrogenic in the hypothalmic pituitary region.

Everyone is different though... some people respond great to one, shitty to another, sides from one, no sides from another etc.

Its only your first cycle though so you should bounce right back, and if you stick with nolva youll save some money and have a higher probability of avoiding undesirable sides that clomid can bring to some.

[gsxr750]

You must spread some reputation around before giving it to GTZ3 again

[BAM]

Of course dude.. this assumes your clomid is uh... clomid

When it comes to clomiphene, I prefer anfarm, serpafar, or omifin tabs in blisterpack.

UG capsules make me nervous.