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my buddy claims that you can run 10mg t bol or 5mg var per day without affecting your natty test production..
im thinking of doing that for 4 weeks during the winter months, then taking 3 months off before my real cycle
sans liver stress, any thoughts?
Vegas
21-08-2008, 02:26 PM
Something that I have written before:
The fact that oxandrolone can be suppressive to the HPTA even at small doses for several hours alone would prevent it from being useful during PCT or between full cycles. As stated by Sheffeild-Moore et al. in their study: "Total serum T concentrations were within normal physiological range on day 0 (449 ± 35 ng/dL) and day 3 (441 ± 44 ng/dL) of OX treatment. However, by day 5, total serum T concentrations were significantly reduced (282 ± 45 ng/dL; P < 0.05) below day 0 and day 3 values [emphasis mine]..."(3). This means that even at a dose of 15mg per day an individual will be shut down, thus nullifying any attempt at PCT.
It is for this reason that running oxandrolone as an attempt to "bridge" between cycles will not aid in maintaining muscle mass during PCT while allowing your HPTA to recover.
Vomit
21-08-2008, 02:51 PM
Awhile back I was doing research into anavar for a bridge and I found quite a few studies that showed no suppression at very low doses. At the time I figured that 10mg would probably be suppressive, 5mg might be slightly and 2.5 probably wouldnt be. At what point does this become pointless? Whats 5mg supposed to do for me? At best it might be a very very mild anabolic at worst it will inhibit natural test which is a really good anabolic.
I think you could actually get less gains then you would naturally if you ran 5mg of anavar and it inhibited your natty test
As a bridge 5mg is better then nothing but again if you got your natty test back in a month and a half, trained for a month and a half, then did your next cycle, you would probably get better gains then running var for 3 months then doing your cycle.
Anyway thats just my opinion, having tried to bridge with anavar at 10mg and having the whole thing go to shit, since anavar wasnt a strong enough androgen to support my mood. libido or muscle.
If your natural I would rather train with natural test then any amount of anavar
im more interested in ppl's opinions of TBOL bridging since i got a bunch left over from last time...
but i appreciate all input thanks boys!
Baconbits
21-08-2008, 10:42 PM
im more interested in ppl's opinions of TBOL bridging since i got a bunch left over from last time...
but i appreciate all input thanks boys!
If you are going to bridge, use a small dose of test 200mg/week. IMO orals are useless for bridging.
gustavo77
22-08-2008, 01:42 AM
im more interested in ppl's opinions of TBOL bridging since i got a bunch left over from last time...
but i appreciate all input thanks boys!
Anavar is much more mild that t-bol, so the above opinions and thoughts will be the same with t-bol but too a great degree IMO. Bridging with anything but test is a poor choice IMO.
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