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Big D
20-08-2008, 07:28 PM
hey guys, since reading all of Gusts post on HCG i decided to jump on board but I dont know much about it, the stuff came in amps, so first question is, is there a safe way to open amps without and amp opener ? and there's 5000ui in one amp i'm obviously not gonna take 5000 in one shot, how do i keep the stuff sterile ? and for right now how do I store the stuff ??? put it in the firdge ??

gsxr750
20-08-2008, 07:36 PM
I'm on HCG now,..mine isn't in amps but I can tell you it will last in the fridge more than 30 days.

gustavo77
20-08-2008, 07:57 PM
hey guys, since reading all of Gusts post on HCG i decided to jump on board but I dont know much about it, the stuff came in amps, so first question is, is there a safe way to open amps without and amp opener ? and there's 5000ui in one amp i'm obviously not gonna take 5000 in one shot, how do i keep the stuff sterile ? and for right now how do I store the stuff ??? put it in the firdge ??

Ya bro, just apply pressure to the top of the amp and the top of the vial should pop right off. It is best to transfer the mixed HCG into a separate vial. I usually add 1ml of B. water to the HCG amp, draw it out and then put it into the sterile vial. I then add another 1.5ml of water to the amp so it will equal 2.5ml/5000iu. Now to get my 500iu dose, i just draw out 25units on a 1ml slin pin. Store the mixed HCG in the fridge.

xxSCHiSMxx
20-08-2008, 08:07 PM
The proper way to open a glass ampule is to 'score' them around the narrowest part of
their neck. To 'score' a glass ampule it is best to use a metal knife with small teeth. Occasionally, these are provided with the ampule and these knives work best. If these knives are not provided, it occasionally works to use a fingernail file, grapefruit knife, or a type of kitchen knife with very small teeth. This knife should be rotated around the narrow part of the neck in a sawing motion. After a white line or 'score' is clearly evident on the neck, the ampule is ready to be cracked open.

Before cracking the ampule open, it should be placed inside a clean paper towel or a thin clean cotton towel with one hand should firmly grasping the lower portion of the ampule. Your other hand should grasp the very top of the ampule.

A quick snapping motion should cleanly remove the top of the ampule. A needle can then be inserted and the liquid drawn out. Do not try to crack open an ampule without scoring it, or by using your fingers directly against the glass ampule. Occasionally the glass ampule can shatter and this glass can cause a serious cut.
Search youtube as well : Anabolic Steroids How To: Decap an Ampule

I've seen lots of different prep/dosages: Here an example I found at another site.


1) Do your calculations. I recommend using 1 cc of Bac water per 1,000 iu of HCG. This means a vial with 2,000 iu will require 2 cc of Bac water.

2) Use the syringe with needle to draw up desired amount of Bac water.

3) Carefully and slowly inject the Bac water into the vial of HCG powder. Do not shake. It is now fully reconstituted and ready for use.

4) Store the reconstituted HCG in a refrigerator when not in use.

I've used hcg in past, testicular atrophy :\ , and I followed the preparing, stacking, and usage outline here:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/cathcg.htm

gustavo77
20-08-2008, 08:28 PM
I've used hcg in past, testicular atrophy :\ , and I followed the preparing, stacking, and usage outline here:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/cathcg.htm

That is a horrible HCG protocol. HCG should be used on cycle (250-500iu e3rd day) to prevent hypoganism. If one does not use HCG during the cycle then they should use 500-1000iu e3rd day leading up to their SERM/AI PCT. HCG causes peak output of the testes in 72hrs so using HCG every 5-7 days is too long between shots. Also 3000iu is a large dose of HCG, such a large dose can damage the leydig cells of the testes.

Big D
20-08-2008, 09:16 PM
thanks for the advice guys, I appreciate this. :yeah

xxSCHiSMxx
20-08-2008, 10:44 PM
That is a horrible HCG protocol. Also 3000iu is a large dose of HCG, such a large dose can damage the leydig cells of the testes.
Thanks for the 411. Damage, yeah, that would suck. :\ ..

Learn something new everyday. sweet. If I ever had testicular atrophy that was of concern again, woulda ran same protocol.

Never used it to prevent hypogonadism. I usually bounce back just fine w/ nolva alone. Will definitely try next run. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

IronRobi
20-08-2008, 11:24 PM
Best way to open amps without an amp opener is to score around the amp with a knife, then use a bic pen cap over the top to snap the top off. Works even better than an amp opener.

It's important to note that if you are planning on keeping your hcg in the fridge for up to a month that you use bacteriostatic water and not the sterile water that normally comes with your hcg. The sterile water will only last in the fridge for a few days.

Kiem
21-08-2008, 12:32 AM
3) Carefully and slowly inject the Bac water into the vial of HCG powder. Do not shake. It is now fully reconstituted and ready for use.

Very important not to shake since most peptides are very fragile. Only role in between fingers until fully disolved.

theboss
21-08-2008, 10:08 AM
i plan on mixing it with B12...

ergie
21-08-2008, 10:14 AM
Hey Gus can you come over and take a look at my balls to make sure the HCG is doing the trick?

gojimmygo
21-08-2008, 10:40 AM
Hey Gus can you come over and take a look at my balls to make sure the HCG is doing the trick?

It obviously isn't working:)

gustavo77
21-08-2008, 12:00 PM
Hey Gus can you come over and take a look at my balls to make sure the HCG is doing the trick?

No need bro. Your girl came over last night to discuss your "raisins".

xxSCHiSMxx
21-08-2008, 01:01 PM
♪ ♫ ba-dum-bum-CHING ♫ ♪

<(^^,)>

Big D
21-08-2008, 03:27 PM
Lol!!!

ergie
21-08-2008, 04:05 PM
good good I'm glad were working on the problem, so is it ok if I have 1 really big ball and the other well you know a little on the small side? If I were to inject GH in the small one would it grow?

Hey Jimmy I think you'd better get down on your hands and knee's and check again....... gotta warn you though I didn't have a shower this morning.


No need bro. Your girl came over last night to discuss your "raisins".

gustavo77
21-08-2008, 05:30 PM
good good I'm glad were working on the problem, so is it ok if I have 1 really big ball and the other well you know a little on the small side? If I were to inject GH in the small one would it grow?


I have found it work at only 10+iu...anything less, just fat loss...lol.

mcgirkz
21-08-2008, 05:56 PM
i use 500iu's every 3-5 days startin bout 5 weeks in....

I'm curious as to storage? i heard you could freeze them ??? i make 10 slin pinz at 500 iu's a piece... i thought they were only good for a couple weeks in the fridge??

is the hcg that comes in a vial any different for storage than amps that are mixed?

AlbertaBeef
21-08-2008, 06:14 PM
i use 500iu's every 3-5 days startin bout 5 weeks in....

I'm curious as to storage? i heard you could freeze them ??? i make 10 slin pinz at 500 iu's a piece... i thought they were only good for a couple weeks in the fridge??

is the hcg that comes in a vial any different for storage than amps that are mixed?

What did you mix it with, NaCl or Bac H2O?? If NaCl I think you're good to thaw and use but not sure about other.

gustavo77
21-08-2008, 09:33 PM
i use 500iu's every 3-5 days startin bout 5 weeks in....

I'm curious as to storage? i heard you could freeze them ??? i make 10 slin pinz at 500 iu's a piece... i thought they were only good for a couple weeks in the fridge??

is the hcg that comes in a vial any different for storage than amps that are mixed?

Do not freeze HCG. Just keep it in the fridge. If you mix it with B. water or Sodium Chloride it should be good for 4-5 weeks in the fridge. HCG does not go "bad", it will just lose potency over time until it is useless.

Mr Ontario
21-08-2008, 10:08 PM
Then she came to mine the following night as wasn't satisfied with Gusto's Proviron balls :)


No need bro. Your girl came over last night to discuss your "raisins".

IronRobi
21-08-2008, 10:22 PM
Then she came to mine the following night as wasn't satisfied with Gusto's Proviron balls :)

So that must be why she's at my house tonight, she left Mr O's pretty pissed that he was missing his balls completely! :puff

gustavo77
22-08-2008, 01:37 AM
Then she came to mine the following night as wasn't satisfied with Gusto's Proviron balls :)

Ohhh, she was plenty satisfied, it was just that my girl came back into town today so i had to throw that bitch out. Hate to burst your bubble O but she needed a place to stay.

Oh and i am very sorry to hear of your recent castration...keep your head up though brotha...no pun intended..lmao..

mcgirkz
22-08-2008, 01:38 AM
thanks AB and gustavo for your input.... i have the NaCl mix...

so freezing, then, would destroy the HCG??? i have a few preloads left i think i should be taking out of the freezer..

gustavo77
22-08-2008, 01:44 AM
thanks AB and gustavo for your input.... i have the NaCl mix...

so freezing, then, would destroy the HCG??? i have a few preloads left i think i should be taking out of the freezer..

Ya i would take them out now. They may be rendered useless but it won;t hurt you to try them.