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Canadian Bodybuilding
16-08-2008, 07:39 AM
Much is happening today in Georgia and other states formerly under the thumb of Russia. President Saakashvili has signed a cease-fire agreement; Russian troops have nevertheless advanced within 35 miles of Tbilisi; President Bush denounced Russia for "bullying and intimidation" and said that "Moscow must honor its commitment to withdraw its invading forces from all Georgian territory," something Russia plainly has no intention of doing.

Yesterday, in what may or may not have been a coincidence of timing, the U.S and Poland announced that after 18 months of negotiations, they have reached on an agreement whereby the U.S. will furnish Patriot missiles to Poland and will locate a missile interceptor base in that country.

This outraged Russia, which believes that it has the right to point missiles at its neighbors, but its neighbors have no right to defend themselves against those missiles. The Associated Press reported that Russia responded today by threatening to attack Poland:

A top Russian general said Friday that Poland's agreement to accept a U.S. missile interceptor base exposes the ex-communist nation to attack, possibly by nuclear weapons, the Interfax news agency reported.
The AP's report is correct; if anything, it understates the bluntness of Russia's threat, which very specifically warned of a nuclear attack.

The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Russia warns Poland that it may become a priority target for Russia in the event the USA deploys elements of its missile defense system on the territory of this East European nation. To put it in a nutshell, Russia may strike a nuclear blow on Poland, which is possible after the recent change of the Russian Federation defense doctrine.
"The USA is busy with its own missile defense system; it does not intend to defend Poland at this point. Poland lays itself open to attack giving the USA a permission to deploy the system. The country may become an object of Russia's reaction. Such targets are destroyed in the first instance," Anatoly Nogovitsin, Russia's Deputy Chief of Staff said commenting the recent agreement regarding the deployment of the US missile defense system in Poland.

Nogovitsin stated that Russia may use nuclear weapons in cases as stipulated by the defense doctrine.

"It clearly states that we can use nuclear weapons against the countries possessing nuclear weapons, against allies of such countries, if they somehow support them, and against those countries, which deploy other countries' nuclear weapons on their territories. Poland is aware of it," the general said.


Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk says that the agreement includes a "mutual commitment" between the two nations to come to each other's assistance "in case of trouble." Tusk clearly linked that part of the deal, from Poland's perspective, with recent events in Georgia:

Talking about the "mutual commitment" part of the agreement, Tusk said that the North Atlantic Treaty Organization would be too slow in coming to Poland's defense if threatened and that the bloc would take "days, weeks to start that machinery."
"Poland and the Poles do not want to be in alliances in which assistance comes at some point later -- it is no good when assistance comes to dead people. Poland wants to be in alliances where assistance comes in the very first hours of -- knock on wood -- any possible conflict," Tusk said.


Note the very different assessments of the U.S.'s willingness to come to Poland's assistance that were voiced by Tusk and by General Nogovitsin.

For a while there, it looked as though history might indeed be ending, more or less. Now, it looks a lot more as though history could be repeating itself. Those Germans who cheered Barack Obama may want to rethink the lessons to be drawn from the Berlin airlift.

St
16-08-2008, 11:09 AM
Man the shit that could start a cold war all over again.

Stonewald Rockwater
16-08-2008, 04:43 PM
billions in oil, they can do what they want.

Freebsd1977
16-08-2008, 08:17 PM
Idiots want to attack a neighbouring country with nukes? In 24 hours, the radioactive fallout will be over Moscow. IMBECILES!

shithead
16-08-2008, 08:22 PM
Idiots want to attack a neighbouring country with nukes? In 24 hours, the radioactive fallout will be over Moscow. IMBECILES!

I would imagine they know what they're doing.

MuSuLPhReAk
16-08-2008, 10:08 PM
I'd say if they launch a nuke at Poland, Russia will cease to exist. The rest of Europe and the US will make sure of that. But most probably, it'll start WWIII.

gsxr750
16-08-2008, 10:11 PM
US probably already has a missile defense system up and running.

Think about it, the B2 Bomber is from the 1980's. You can just imagine what they've developed since then and haven't told us about... it's been almost 30 years!!

MuSuLPhReAk
16-08-2008, 10:21 PM
They have UFO's no?

St
16-08-2008, 11:10 PM
They have UFO's no?


Yes area 51.

Big D
16-08-2008, 11:28 PM
and laser beams,

Freebsd1977
17-08-2008, 05:00 AM
I would imagine they know what they're doing.

Sure, sure, chernobyl anyone?

tony_canuck
17-08-2008, 06:08 PM
its in no one's interest to start a war and russia knows that the US is stretched thin with the middle east war, so they're trying to use that to their advantage and bully everyone around....but i do know I'm glad I live here in Canada and not beside those guys ;)

Freebsd1977
19-08-2008, 03:15 AM
The mainstream media is misrepresenting the facts and civilian deaths caused by the Georgian INVASION of Ossentia. They attacked first, bombing civilians, hospitals, the infrastructure.

How would you expect Russia to respond? Sit back and take it up the ass? They responded in such a way as to to make it clear that they would not tolerate this.

Of course the US media/Nato is going to badmouth and misrepresent the facts calling the Russian response excessive. But you reap what you sow.

Georgia went in knowing full well with their pending/desired Nato status the US would back their actions and twist words and events on CNN and FAUX news.

This is utter bullshit. Georgia used the Olympics and US/NATO support to launch and unprovoked attack on a Russian state. Russia responded predicably. One of the worlds most expensive pipelines runs through Georgia. Also, it neighbors close to IRAN, which if you look at how things are playing out, US forces are instilling troops and puppet governments on all sides of IRANS borders.

What pisses me off most is Canada is sending AID to Georgia for their stupidity.

Just my two cents, but I don't get my info from biased news such as Fox (FAUX) or CNN, but the world newsfeeds.

The US went into IRAQ under false pretenses, WMD that never existed, alluding ties to 911 and Al Queda (The CIA).

Hell, the Georgian fighters were trained by the US.

If anyone is going to cause WW3, it will be a direct result of American Policy, not Russia's actions.

Russia has been honoring the profileration treaties, while the US continues to build up stockpiles around the globe and insists on deploying this missle defense system in Poland when they were warned repeatably that this would be a bad move on their part.

Georgia got what was coming to them plain and simple, they are not innocent of killing Civilians.

Furthermore, in international news there are reports of dead Blackwater troops being found fighting for Georgia. (American Mercanaries.)

Anyways, just my opinion. Flame away, but I suggest people start looking up their facts away from mainstream media and really read between the lines.

Well said but you can slow down the US bashing though. You really think our media: CBC, Global, CTV are any better? ALL mainstream-media sucks, agenda driven idiots!

Freebsd1977
19-08-2008, 03:29 PM
Agreed. Probably because they are now owned by a small group of individuals/corporations.

When you have a corp like General Electric (Makers of not just microwaves, but also military technology) owning news stations, the news is going to be agenda driven.

Yes sir!