Ritch
14-08-2008, 12:51 PM
First off I know this stuff is considered crap by most and people say it`s just not worth it. I am also going to contradict myself in a reply to the formestane thread where I said these pro hormones are garbage...
However, last summer I did a 3 week cycle of M1T. The first ten days I only took 10mg, then 20mg for 5 days and finished the last 6 days at 10mg My weight went from 200 to 208 no bloating at all and was eating alot. Didn`t feel any of the horrible sides everyone talks about. Just crazy strength gains that went up even after the cycle. Took taurine to prevent back pumps and milk thistle before and after. Didn`t take anything for the blood pressue and I know that was a mistake. Acutally checked it at the pharmacy on the machine a few times and I was o.k. Daily supps I take are 3 gr of vit. C, 400 iu of vit. E, 50 mg b complex, magnesium and zinc before bed daily. Plus creatine 10 grams training days, 5 gr on off days.
Diet was 250gr protein, 600gr carbs and at least 100 grams of fat so roughly 4300-4500 cals. Before bed I would have 2-3 egg yolks, with about 4-6 whites, 4 peanut butter and honey toasts. yet still stayed lean. Just wanted to paint the pic that I am ectomorphic in nature... And believe I have my basis covered and all. I don`t take mesurements or body fat tests because nobody carries these tools to mesure you. You either looked jacked or don`t. Also it just depends how the muscles look and all.
So here`s my question after describing the daily routine and such. During my M1T cycle my left nipple was sensitive, but took the greedy risk and finished the cycle. What causes this? I ask because some descriptions of M1T say it dosen`t convert to estrogen. I always thought an itchy nipple was a sign of aromatization. I`ve heard all kinds of thoughts, but would like to know what you guys think?
My pct was very elaborate. I slowly tapered down nolvadex from 20mg to 5mg in a 3 week period. Using only 20 pills total. This stuff is so ****ing hard to get a hold of it`s just rediculous. This stuff gave my wicked hot flashes! People who had no idea I was taking them would notice! Even the days I only took 5mg! I added clen during this time to be able to keep up the eating and not get fat, leaned out even more plus it stimulates me very well before training. I know this seems weird but I never went over 40mcg in a day and I slowly build up to it. Also I used VPX no shot gun with added BCAA about an extra 10gr before training 20gr during and 20gr after. My weight went up from 208 to a very solid 212. No shot gun with clen gives awesome workouts!
So again I just wanted to describe what I take and didn`t want to come off as one of those fools who uses these products without a good base of knowledge. I never heard of anyone doing a similar stack, never wanted to post it because I wouldn`t want to have to argue with people, especially on the net!
So what I was thinking would be to use topical formestane during the cycle to keep estrogen at check (if that`s the case) use it for pct with clen no BCAA this time or shot gun. I would do a slow taper of the formestane and clen. This M1T bottle has remained unopen for too long. I think it would make a big impact on my physique doing a 2-3 cycles with ample time off. Does this sound good or am I just dreaming stuff up?
Sorry for the long post!
However, last summer I did a 3 week cycle of M1T. The first ten days I only took 10mg, then 20mg for 5 days and finished the last 6 days at 10mg My weight went from 200 to 208 no bloating at all and was eating alot. Didn`t feel any of the horrible sides everyone talks about. Just crazy strength gains that went up even after the cycle. Took taurine to prevent back pumps and milk thistle before and after. Didn`t take anything for the blood pressue and I know that was a mistake. Acutally checked it at the pharmacy on the machine a few times and I was o.k. Daily supps I take are 3 gr of vit. C, 400 iu of vit. E, 50 mg b complex, magnesium and zinc before bed daily. Plus creatine 10 grams training days, 5 gr on off days.
Diet was 250gr protein, 600gr carbs and at least 100 grams of fat so roughly 4300-4500 cals. Before bed I would have 2-3 egg yolks, with about 4-6 whites, 4 peanut butter and honey toasts. yet still stayed lean. Just wanted to paint the pic that I am ectomorphic in nature... And believe I have my basis covered and all. I don`t take mesurements or body fat tests because nobody carries these tools to mesure you. You either looked jacked or don`t. Also it just depends how the muscles look and all.
So here`s my question after describing the daily routine and such. During my M1T cycle my left nipple was sensitive, but took the greedy risk and finished the cycle. What causes this? I ask because some descriptions of M1T say it dosen`t convert to estrogen. I always thought an itchy nipple was a sign of aromatization. I`ve heard all kinds of thoughts, but would like to know what you guys think?
My pct was very elaborate. I slowly tapered down nolvadex from 20mg to 5mg in a 3 week period. Using only 20 pills total. This stuff is so ****ing hard to get a hold of it`s just rediculous. This stuff gave my wicked hot flashes! People who had no idea I was taking them would notice! Even the days I only took 5mg! I added clen during this time to be able to keep up the eating and not get fat, leaned out even more plus it stimulates me very well before training. I know this seems weird but I never went over 40mcg in a day and I slowly build up to it. Also I used VPX no shot gun with added BCAA about an extra 10gr before training 20gr during and 20gr after. My weight went up from 208 to a very solid 212. No shot gun with clen gives awesome workouts!
So again I just wanted to describe what I take and didn`t want to come off as one of those fools who uses these products without a good base of knowledge. I never heard of anyone doing a similar stack, never wanted to post it because I wouldn`t want to have to argue with people, especially on the net!
So what I was thinking would be to use topical formestane during the cycle to keep estrogen at check (if that`s the case) use it for pct with clen no BCAA this time or shot gun. I would do a slow taper of the formestane and clen. This M1T bottle has remained unopen for too long. I think it would make a big impact on my physique doing a 2-3 cycles with ample time off. Does this sound good or am I just dreaming stuff up?
Sorry for the long post!