hgh info needed!!!!

[highaltitudebc]

Just wondering about the safety of taking hgh. How much and for how long?What can be expected when taking it? I would appreciate any info or personal experiences using it... Thanks in advance :)

[Praetorian]

There is much info on HGH if you do a search on here. Some quick notes...HGH works better if you use for a longer period of time...ie months not weeks. There are very little safety issues with HGH...only a few sides that one may encounter such as carpal tunnel if you start with too high a dose, water retention...usually if you go over 4iu per day, and insulin resistance generally if you use it for an extended time period without going off.

For fat loss 2iu per day is enough with a tight diet, cardio and training. For a more optimal affect 4iu per day. For lean mass gains HGH should be combined with a strong androgen ie testosterone and run in the 4-6iu per day range. HGH increases T4 (inactive) to T3 (active) thyroid conversion so taking thyroid (T3) with it isnt necessary for growth but can enhance fat loss. Dont expect dramatic results in a few weeks it doesnt work like that...HGH takes time and th results are slow and gradual. It also has to be real HGH and a lot of what is out there now is not real and basically peptides relabelled as HGH...caveat emptor!

P

[highaltitudebc]

So how would i know if its real or not? labeling.Brand etc..
I am thinking i should take 4iu a day. I was told to take for at least 6 months to see optimal results.
Does it affect the liver in any way? Thanks again for the info Prae... :)

[Odysseus]

So how would i know if its real or not? labeling.Brand etc..
I am thinking i should take 4iu a day. I was told to take for at least 6 months to see optimal results.
Does it affect the liver in any way? Thanks again for the info Prae... :)

Hi, I know I'm not Prae but I just thought I would chime in since hgh was the first thing I ever used, long before I ever did test. What it comes down to is you just have to trust your source. Sometimes sneaky people also use hcg and sell it as hgh, so if you want to check to make sure that's not the case, use a pregnancy testing kit.

As far as side effects go, if your fingers/hands tingle and your jaws/bones feel kinda tight, your hgh is most likely legit. Your sleep should also be AMAZING. In other words, much deeper REM sleep, vivid dreams, feel refreshed in the morning.

I suspect that people who use 4iu or more either have very weak generic gh (e.g. Chinese stuff) or just have completely fake stuff. You rarely have to go past 2iu E.D. for legit hgh. (Serono, etc.) 6 months on and you should see unbelievable changes. But truth be told, I saw crazy results in only ONE month. But again, you must have the real thing. I was very young when I tried hgh for the first time and it helped me go from being an angry and depressed Debbie downer to being an upbeat, positive, happy person. Hgh wasn't 100% responsible for that change, but it definitely helped to push me in that direction...HARD.

Hgh is good for a number of things, not just building muscle. In fact, if you're looking JUST for muscular size, you're better off spending more money on test. But for me personally, hgh improves my sense of well-being, makes my skin look beautiful, helps me lose fat, and just completely changes the way my physique looks.

Edit: Oh, and as for your liver question, it is not liver toxic. The hgh eventually gets converted to IGF-1 through the liver, but as far as I know, it does not stress the liver. It isn't methylated or anything so you should be fine.

[highaltitudebc]

Thanks so much for your reply. I really appreciate it.

[Praetorian]

HGH is not liver toxic at all. The growth from HGH actually comes from IGF-1 mediated by the liver. The majority of HGH out there is counterfeit...even Serono that supposedly comes out of the pharmacy has been faked a tonne. HGH creates hyperplasia which is cell multiplication but they are immature satellite cells which require an androgen for maturation...hence the use of test concurrently. The maximum IGF-1 the liver can produce daily has been argued to be optimized at 6iu daily....of pharm GH. Quality depends on source....99% of the time if it is real is relabeled from china.

P