Bloating in the face

[MIAGIONJUS]

i was wondering if anyone had any ideas on how to minimize bloating in the face when runing test. Usually i run cyp at 750/week. I read that runing aromasin through the cycle could help with this but never tried it myself. any ideas would be great

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Yes, aromasin/letro/arimidex. Any of those would help keep estrogen down and minimize bloating.

[gsxr750]

And control your carbs.

[Canadian Bodybuilding]

May also help keep your blood pressure in check. Bloating usually causes high blood pressure.

[Mr Ontario]

Usually long runs of test cycles will cause this as well.....5-6 months...How long you have been on?



i was wondering if anyone had any ideas on how to minimize bloating in the face when runing test. Usually i run cyp at 750/week. I read that runing aromasin through the cycle could help with this but never tried it myself. any ideas would be great

[SteveMan]

never had a problem with test E causing bloat, dbol kills me though.

[gustavo77]

I run an Aromatase Inhibitor during all my cycles. I've run both Aromasin and Arimidex and both work great. Adex has a slighly longer half life so it can be ran eod. I can run up to a gram of test and keep estro in check on 1mg eod. Aromasin on the other hand has a fairly short half life, approx 24hrs, so it should be ran daily, otherwise hormone fluctuations can occur and the drug is not all that effective. If you choose to run Aromasin and it is the safest A.I. (no effect of lipids) run 25mg per day. Another drug that works fairly well is Proviron. Proviron will not reduce estrogen but will compete with it and prevent a large percentage from binding to the estro receptor. I find that taking Proviron with an A.I. allows me to use less of the A.I. and preventing the A.I. from driving my estrogen levels too low.

Right now i am using 0.5mg of Adex eod and 50mg of Proviron per day while on 1ml of sust eod and 25mg of d-bol ed and water retention is low and libido is high..lol.

Two other things to keep in mind with regards to water retention is to make sure your sodium intake is reasonable-low and drink a ton of water. On cycle i drink 2+ gallons per day..

[gsxr750]

Great info thanks Gustavo.

[MIAGIONJUS]

usually i just run for 12 weeks and start pct on week 14


Usually long runs of test cycles will cause this as well.....5-6 months...How long you have been on?

[Mr Ontario]

Ya...that's a pretty short run of test!


usually i just run for 12 weeks and start pct on week 14

[gustavo77]

Great info thanks Gustavo.

Always a pleasure to help out..

[SteveMan]

Yeah I do what Gustavo mentioned. Just to add this in, every time I do run test I find the effects(hightened libido and that general good feeling it gives) tend to taper off after 8 weeks or so. Once I added in 50mg of proviron ED I was back in business, it is suppose to increase the effects of test because it stops SHGB from binding to the free testosterone which makes more test available.

I am sure Gustavo can better explain this after all he mentioned it to me.

[gustavo77]

Yeah I do what Gustavo mentioned. Just to add this in, every time I do run test I find the effects(hightened libido and that general good feeling it gives) tend to taper off after 8 weeks or so. Once I added in 50mg of proviron ED I was back in business, it is suppose to increase the effects of test because it stops SHGB from binding to the free testosterone which makes more test available.

I am sure Gustavo can better explain this after all he mentioned it to me.

Pretty good explanation right there bro, not much more to add. But i will say this, that many people do not realize how many side effects high estrogen can cause. Aside from gyno and bloating, high estrogen levels can cause a rise in SHBG, lowering free test and also cause a cycle to be that much more suppressive. Most people who do not bloat or get gyno on aromatizing steroids think that their estrogen levels are normal but they are far from normal. A person who takes 500mg of test per week is actually putting approx 5 times the normal amount of test in their body. Now think, how much higher do you think that person's estrodiol levels are?? Far from normal I would venture to guess. :eek:

[Big D]

I was using proviron as my AI and i'm pretty sure the proviron was the reason for my high blood presure, at first I loved proviron the increase sex drive was sweet, but it tapered off at around 6 weeks. then I started feeling like shit so anyways long story short, i stopped using proviron now I feel alot better,

[fathead]

perhaps i should post this as its own thread but it fits so.... perhaps i can get a solid answer as hes here in the thread

i run proscar to combat shedding. works well for me on reasonable amounts of test. ive never used proviron as ive read its a dht/etc etc and not nice on the hair yada yada.

so question: test plus proscar is fine... what happens if i throw proviron in there during this protocol? baldy?