Need Critque

[Dann]

Morning everyone
One of a very reputable fitness model recommend me this workout plan for cutting .I always use to believe before that cutting phase is all about diet and workout should be more in to cardio and cross training rather then high reps sets ..
I need some of the veterans comments on the workout plan that I got I will be starting it come jan ..
Thanks
hey DANN you have to go gym as much as you can,u cant get focus at home but if u busy you should do your best ..3 times a week min gym and couple times at home total 5 workout that you need a week.You have to do full legs workout maybe 2 times a week at the gym you should do only legs with different machines and some burpees at home.......

when I look your pictures I can suggest for your upper body high volume workout and very high reps
your lower body burpees at home which I attached one example when I look those pictures basicly

upper body
1)CHEST DAY-total workout 500-750 reps middle heavy weights
• Bench Press
• Low Incline Bench Press
• Decline Bench Press
• Flat/Incline/Decline Chest Press Machine
• Flat/Incline/Decline Flyes
2)SHOULDER,,500-750 reps
• Standing Overhead Shoulder Press
• Seated Overhead Shoulder Press
• Lateral Raises
• Front Raises
• High Incline Bench Press
3)BICEPS,250-400REPS
• Standing Biceps Curl
• Seated Biceps Curl
• Preacher Curls
• Cable Curls
• • 4)TRICEPS,250-400REPS
• Laying Triceps Extension (Skull-Crushers)
• Triceps Cable Press-Downs
• Overhead Triceps Extension
• DIPS
• • my suggestions for your BACK workout 10 sets 10 reps pull up with deadlift 10 reps 10 sets ,,that's pretty enough 3 times a weeks you can add triceps day or biceps day..you gata destroy that fat thickness part ....etc
• • supplements suggestions
• -bcaa
• -glutamin(before sleep)
• -l-carnitine(pill or liquid form)
• -test booster any of them..you can find gnc many variety
• -kre-alklyn(not monohadryte)

[Dann]

Also can anyone help me find kre-alklyn(not monohydrate) .. I looked all over internet but didn't find any brand that makes non monohydrate version
Thanks

[TT Eric]

Excessive training and no diet ?

Eric

[Dann]

I asked him about the diet ... I said the same thing to my self . 500 + Reps minimum . I hope he doesn't suggest Ketosis or Palumbo diet with this sort of training .

[TT Eric]

You know that on this forum you have some of the best trainer in Canada ? I would suggest hire one like Ted (Praetorian) to help you out, that way you would be settle the right way.

Eric

[Dann]

True Eric but this help is costing me nothing .. I am at the stage of life that I need to sqeeze every penny . may be later in life I be stable enough to hire I real trainer ,

[Hosehead]

1)Chest "middle to heavy weight" ? Never seen anyone perform 500-750 reps of chest exercises with anything resembling heavy weights. Just not possible. Mike Quinn was full of shit.
2)Way too much triceps. They get worked plenty with chest and to a lesser degree , shoulders. As Prae said recently , close grip benches and dips is plenty.
3) 10 sets of 10 reps of deads ? No one who knows anything about deads would suggest this. With heavy weight your form breaks down before ten reps and good luck getting to 10 sets if you are actually going balls out.
4)Too much of everything
5)Glutamine is way over rated and not cost effective
6)test boosters don't work, plain and simple. Get some Ostarine if you don't wanna do traditional gear.

I'm not sure what kind of physique you expect to obtain but high reps/overtraining won't elicit bugger all. You belief that diet and cardio (although I know some people who cut like carzy without cardio) are the keys to cutting is correct.

[Dann]

Thanks Hosehead ... seems like what going in my head aswell ... from the looks of it so far I take it as cross training session with light weight . I will look into ostarine for sure thanks for the input bro

[LonelyBedouin]

This is nothing like crossfit training, even with crossfit your not doing 500+ reps. Who is this very reputable fitness model?

Cant add much else than what hosehead has already said

[Hosehead]

Thanks Hosehead ... seems like what going in my head aswell ... from the looks of it so far I take it as cross training session with light weight . I will look into ostarine for sure thanks for the input bro

No problem. I'm not an expert on training or diet by any means, Prae , Steve D and many others are. What I do know through trial and error , is that diet is pretty much everything when it comes to cutting (and bulking) and that super high reps and too many sets and exercises will just lead to muscle waisting , not muscle building. That goes for any type of physique you want to obtain. Put this thread in Prae's corner bro. You'll get the expert advice you seek.

[RandyMadsen]

IMO that training program is shit. The volume is too high. I don't like the body part split or the exercise selection(but that's just me, maybe those exercises work well for you). I don't like having full days dedicated to shoulders or chest or a whole day for arms - personally I train them all together as often as possible, 2 exercises per muscle, total 8 sets per muscle. 16-24 sets per muscle per week.
as for supplement, monohyrdate and krealkalyn arent worth spending the difference - buy whats cheaper.
get your diet in check
add omega 3 unless you're eating fish ED
add vitamin d3 unless you work in the sun

[Praetorian]

If you are looking to diet and lose fat yet maintain muscle that program isnt optimal. Your training should not change much whether you are off season or contest dieting...how you trained to build muscle is how you should train to maintain it...albeit avoiding any really low rep sets and you may need to go slightly lighter as you will lose some leverage from water loss but you do not do high reps to lose fat...thats called muscle loss.

Creatine mono is the best form of creatine to use and IMO is essential when dieting because of its cell volumization ability...especially in a state of lowered glycogen retention.

P

[Dann]

This is nothing like crossfit training, even with crossfit your not doing 500+ reps. Who is this very reputable fitness model?

Cant add much else than what hosehead has already said

Ok so looks like I got your attention and the verdict is . which I pretty much expected .. Overtraining routine ......
now for Ostarine I look into that and problem is that it can cause or increase gyno and I do slight have them . I still wanted to ask some expert how to get rid of them without going under knife . as I heard some ppl talking about letro or something .
last Year for 20 weeks I did Dave Pulambo diet with pretty much same workout as I am doing in my bulk season 45 mins of weight training plus I added 20 to 40 mins of cardio .. in the last few days I added another session of low intensity cardio on empty stomach first thing in the morning .
It worked but not as well as I wanted too even though switched my fruits to veggies .. carbs only once a week .and stopped on all dairy .
I really don't know what am I missing here that doesn't let me look like well this guy :) ... he is a bf of my friend and she ask me to try to get along with him because she feel comfortable if I talk to him aswell ,I don't know chicks stuff .
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[RandyMadsen]

If you are looking to diet and lose fat yet maintain muscle that program isnt optimal. Your training should not change much whether you are off season or contest dieting...how you trained to build muscle is how you should train to maintain it...albeit avoiding any really low rep sets and you may need to go slightly lighter as you will lose some leverage from water loss but you do not do high reps to lose fat...thats called muscle loss.

Creatine mono is the best form of creatine to use and IMO is essential when dieting because of its cell volumization ability...especially in a state of lowered glycogen retention.

P

100% agree

[Praetorian]

Sorry that's not the Dave Palumbo diet...not to mention the diet is not static nor is your cardio. Taking a cookie cutter approach will generally result in less then optimal results as you have seen.

P