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#8
07-10-2013, 12:46 AM
Anyone run this at 500-600mg for extended periods while on a low dose test?

Ive been on HRT for a few years now and its getting pretty dull to say the least. I dont care to run heavy anabolics but I do want to get some solid training done this winter.

Anyone have good or bad experience with EQ to share?

Also, can it be run in conjunction with Finasteride? I thought I remembered reading somewhere that Finasteride blocked the receptor for EQ or something?

Please chime in Prae and or everyone else with knowledge.

#8
08-10-2013, 08:44 PM
Found a link that answered my finasteride questions, so never mind on that.

Still looking for feedback on EQ + low dose test (ie. 100mg a week HRT)

Praetorian
10-10-2013, 10:04 PM
EQ IMO is weak and over rated. Also on low dose test or on its own can cause ED. No issue with running it with tren. I would always run a 2:1 ratio test to anabolic. If you want a few more gains you are much better off bumping the test up to 500-750 weekly instead of adding an anabolic.

P

Solo59
25-10-2013, 05:08 PM
EQ IMO is weak and over rated. Also on low dose test or on its own can cause ED. No issue with running it with tren. I would always run a 2:1 ratio test to anabolic. If you want a few more gains you are much better off bumping the test up to 500-750 weekly instead of adding an anabolic.
P

Running EQ or Deca alone will cause ED and low libido. IMO, daring as it is, neither Deca nor EQ BLOCK injected testosterone. They only shut down your natural HPTA. So if you're running 400 mg/wk of Test along with 600 mg/wk of EQ (or Deca), you will get all the libidinal effects of 400 mgs/wk of exogenous testosterone.

Solo

born2juice4ever
25-10-2013, 10:30 PM
EQ gives me the worst panic attacks ever. \
I used to run it for years, i got a lot of benefits from it, ALTHOUGH as prae said, it is OVER RATED.
But ever since Feb 2013 I had 4 panic attacks in Feb, March, April, May...almost once per month....it was then when I stopped running it, and never again will it enter my house.

If you are looking for similar results as EQ, then spend the money and run some Primo.


B2J

Solo59
26-10-2013, 12:57 AM
EQ gives me the worst panic attacks ever. \
I used to run it for years, i got a lot of benefits from it, ALTHOUGH as prae said, it is OVER RATED.
But ever since Feb 2013 I had 4 panic attacks in Feb, March, April, May...almost once per month....it was then when I stopped running it, and never again will it enter my house.

If you are looking for similar results as EQ, then spend the money and run some Primo.

B2J

Well, EQ is great for joints & vascularity. Don't know why EQ would cause panic attacks any more than exogenous testosterone. All AAS are derived from the molecular structure of testosterone and their effects are not drastically different. I do tend to think that masteron, also dismissed as weak by many, can work as well as EQ if it is used in sufficient quantity. You're getting a lot of DHEA then, however.

Solo

St
26-10-2013, 12:48 PM
I like Eq, but many seem to get bad panic attacks odd.

born2juice4ever
27-10-2013, 03:46 PM
Well, EQ is great for joints & vascularity. Don't know why EQ would cause panic attacks any more than exogenous testosterone. All AAS are derived from the molecular structure of testosterone and their effects are not drastically different. I do tend to think that masteron, also dismissed as weak by many, can work as well as EQ if it is used in sufficient quantity. You're getting a lot of DHEA then, however.

Solo


I don't unerstand the reasons behind the why either.

I know this 100% of a fact: EQ causes panic attacks on me and I hate it!!
I had not used EQ in around 2 years, no particular reasons...Feb 2013 I started to cycle with it in the range of 900mgs ew. By march I experienced my first horrible panic attack.
After research, I discovered that EQ has been the root of panic attack on other juice brothers....so I stopped using it, I still had 2 additional attacks in the weeks of the compound clearing my system.
I wend two months without the usage of the compound, and despite the internal fight, I went ahead and ran it again, to verify: I ran 600mgs....not even 6 weeks after I suffered yet another dark ****ing moment in life, a panic attack.
I have been running cycles for over 15 years and never experience panic attacks. The weird thing is that, i have used plenty of EQ in the past, but I never actually went over 400-500. It is when I go over 600 or more, that it triggers me negatively.

I have been clear of the EQ for nearly 3 months now, no problems. I still run every other compound hard core, but never get triggered in that manner.


I am not sure if its the way the drug is being made now a days, or what it could be.


Just my own experience.

B2J

Solo59
29-10-2013, 12:48 AM
I don't unerstand the reasons behind the why either.

I know this 100% of a fact: EQ causes panic attacks on me and I hate it!!
I had not used EQ in around 2 years, no particular reasons...Feb 2013 I started to cycle with it in the range of 900mgs ew. By march I experienced my first horrible panic attack.
After research, I discovered that EQ has been the root of panic attack on other juice brothers....so I stopped using it, I still had 2 additional attacks in the weeks of the compound clearing my system.
I wend two months without the usage of the compound, and despite the internal fight, I went ahead and ran it again, to verify: I ran 600mgs....not even 6 weeks after I suffered yet another dark ****ing moment in life, a panic attack.
I have been running cycles for over 15 years and never experience panic attacks. The weird thing is that, i have used plenty of EQ in the past, but I never actually went over 400-500. It is when I go over 600 or more, that it triggers me negatively.

I have been clear of the EQ for nearly 3 months now, no problems. I still run every other compound hard core, but never get triggered in that manner.


I am not sure if its the way the drug is being made now a days, or what it could be.


Just my own experience.

B2J

Duly noted. I have heard this before. One of the toughest guys I knew used to experience unbearable anxiety when he was running about 900 mg/wk of EQ, so there must be something to it. Some claim it is harder on the heart, but I suspect that's to do with the anxiety that's been reported. I'll have to keep an eye on myself as the weeks go by. Mast can make me edgy, but, with Test, I find it to be mostly a feel-good hormone, so, until my shoulder joints began to hurt, I stuck with big runs of Mast instead.

Solo

Praetorian
31-10-2013, 10:23 AM
Running EQ or Deca alone will cause ED and low libido. IMO, daring as it is, neither Deca nor EQ BLOCK injected testosterone. They only shut down your natural HPTA. So if you're running 400 mg/wk of Test along with 600 mg/wk of EQ (or Deca), you will get all the libidinal effects of 400 mgs/wk of exogenous testosterone.

Solo

Deca or EQ doesn't block test they just suppress libido if the dosage tends to be higher then testosterone. Any injected testosterone will shunt HPTA and the result will be lowered endogenous test. At the dosage posted endogenous basically is suppressed and now you are dealing only with exogenous amounts compared to the amount of anabolic. It is quite common to run androgens higher than anabolics specifically for this reason.

P

Praetorian
31-10-2013, 10:27 AM
Well, EQ is great for joints & vascularity. Don't know why EQ would cause panic attacks any more than exogenous testosterone. All AAS are derived from the molecular structure of testosterone and their effects are not drastically different. I do tend to think that masteron, also dismissed as weak by many, can work as well as EQ if it is used in sufficient quantity. You're getting a lot of DHEA then, however.

Solo

Masteron is a DHT derivative. Meaning all the DHT qualities are no longer existent thus it does not impart side effects such as DHT. DHEA will not increase.

P

#8
07-11-2013, 02:43 PM
Interesting feedback. Thanks guys.

fathead
10-11-2013, 03:15 PM
#8 could you provide me with the link you mention discuss eq + finestred

thanks

Want2lift
13-09-2014, 10:36 PM
I am an anxious person in my day to day life. I ran EQ one time and it made me an anxious mess. This was about 5 years ago, haven't ran it since. I think if your more dispositioned to anxiety it may not be the compound for you.

Solo59
26-09-2014, 05:23 PM
Masteron is a DHT derivative. Meaning all the DHT qualities are no longer existent thus it does not impart side effects such as DHT. DHEA will not increase.
P

Yes, I meant DHT, not DHEA. I've read your opinion on DHT not being increased by Masteron before, Praetorian, but the reports of hair loss are pretty common. It never happened to me, but on higher doses I am definitely more impatient and prone to edginess, like a lower dose Tren. When running Mast, pissing is often harder, which indicates BHP, too, so I'll reserve my doubts that Mast causes no increase in DHT; that is, it seems to me Mast does increase DHT.

Solo

Praetorian
26-09-2014, 08:19 PM
DHT is increased by test not masteron or any other DHT derivative. These compounds get blamed for sides coming from other items.

This is a similar argument guys used against tren saying it caused kidney issues...nonsense. High blood pressure from the drol and test caused the kidney issues.

P