time to cut down on the gear

[bmorlock]

I just got back from the hospital , for the last 3 weeks or so i have felt like

shit , ive been gettin shortness of breath ,breaking out in sweats my arms

and hands have been tingling , ive been feeling light headed and disoriented

and my eyes have been playing tricks on me , so i went to the emergency at

the hospital because i felt really bad tonight since 8 pm so i checked in at

about 1am , i told the doctor every thing of course ive been running for

about 2 months 1500mg a week test , 900mg a week eq , tren E 400mg a week , masteron 125mg eod, t3 50mcg a day , dostinex 500mcg 2x a week
femera .75mg eod

and she basically told me every thing im feeling was from way too much gear

and the t3 was not helping at all , now i had a good idea that this was the case but of course i didnt want to believe it , usually i take higher doses

but not this high , ive only been taking that much because the linning of my throat is messed up or week or decayed from too many years of heart burn

and the acid has stripped it away and i cant really eat solid foods ,shit from january to march i didnt eat a single solid food just drank protein shakes and choclate milk and ate ice cream to try and keep my weight up , my throat is slowly

getting better but i still cant eat anywhere near what i used too be able too

i am going to cut out the t3 and only run my test at 400mg and eq at 600 and drop the tren to 300mg ill keep the masterone the same i might add winny at 50 mg a day .

i was beeing foolish and and using way too much gear just to stay big when i should of just took the time and waited and let my throat heal propper instead i just made my self even more unhealthy than i already was , maybe i a month or so i will take a well needed break from all gear for 3 months ... sorry for the long winded message , i just needed to get it out of me i guess
just be safe bro's and take care of yourselfs

[Freebsd1977]

Hi bmorlock, wow sorry to hear that man. Stay healthy and watch yourself, this lifestyle is not worth losing your health over. Keep that body healthy. GL

[St]

Ya some people do take a little too much,there comes a point to how high should i go.But hope your on meds for your acid reflux,it has helped for me.You should feel better within a week or two.

[gixxman]

i was just wondering what the acid reflux was from...i had that last cycle too...first time ever

[gsxr750]

Hope you feel better soon.

[Big D]

sorry to hear that ,,, I hope you get better

[Canadian Bodybuilding]

Wish you well and a speedy recovery. Had the acid reflux thing a few years ago too. Sucked ass.

[Kilburn]

well no fuking shit. what is that, like 11CCs of gear per week? jesus.

[The Terminator]

Acid Reflux sucks ass. I had it for a long time (8 or so years?) but was able to get rid of it by cleaning my diet up significantly. Still comes back every once in a while.

If I can offer some advice, Acid Reflux is actually when there is not enough digestive acid in the stomach when you're eating. This causes the stomach to over compensate, and create too much acid very quickly. Taking digestive enzymes regularly as well as apple cider vinegar with your meals should help out, if you were interested in a different approach than that of the doctors.

Oh, and that is a hell of a lot of gear. :o

Matt

[Canadian Bodybuilding]

Popcorn with no butter or salt helped me with acid reflux. I think it absorbed a lot of the acid. I ate some every night for 2 months and I healed fully. Had it for about half a year. That and losing a bit of weight helped. I took no meds for it.

[tex]

remember that all aas increase rbc.....but eq is esp. bad for this......get well soon bro....

[GTZ3]

**** bro ... thats alot of crank, I highly doubt you need the aforemntioned dosages cocktailed just to "stay" big. Good on you for recognizing your health in general>being big any day of the week.

Of course when your healthy 99% of bodybuilders are indifferent to what potentially may be going on under the surface, but the minute something happens for real and is potentially life threatening/changing then alot of guys change their minds very quickly.

Be safe everyone.

[Kilburn]

i didnt realize the masteron was EOD. k, so around 14 CCs of gear per week, lol, that's almost a whole bottle.

[RagingRandy]

Take time to let yourself heal. Without your health you have nothing. Good luck bro

[bmorlock]

ya kilburn its somrthing like 14cc a week , the acid reflux ive had for like 10 years but i just took some tums and tried to ingore it ...... i stopped the t3 today cold turkey and am feeling way better , so im pretty sure the majority of it was from the t3 but im still gonna lower my dosages especially the test and eq ...... thanks for the kind words guys

[bmorlock]

ive recently been taking prevacid for the acid reflux and have not had heart burn in a few weeks ... it really feels great :)

[Kilburn]

is the acid reflux from the steroids?

i recently started getting it myself and i've never really had it before. i'm thinking it's from the gear. also, my blood pressure has gone up a bit too 130/68, it used to be low 120s.

i never do cardio because i'm trying desperatly to gain weight but i think might have to start because i'mseriously worried about the gear fuking my heart up. my grampa had really bad acid reflux and he died of a heart attack at 70, it's really not a good sign and hints at other underlying problems. my boss used to wrestle in japan and he was on the juice, he had to have 3 heart surgeries before the age of 40.

just some random thoughts. that's really the only thing i'm worried about- having a stroke or a heart problem from the shit. i'm going to start taking aspirin everyday.

[bmorlock]

my acid reflux is not from the roids , but i find that tren makes it worse for me , i recentlyu had a ecg done , and it showed that i have heart damage , how bad or what kind i dont know the doc told me that the bottom of my heart is working harder that it should , i am waiting to get a heart stress test done to find out whats up ... my doc told me too take a 325mg aspirin every day

[Kilburn]

see, that's what i'm talking about. the shit really does seem to fuk your heart pretty bad.

[SteveMan]

for me stress brings on acid reflux the most.. kinda ****ed. That is a hard core regiment you have had going on there, i like it. But if its ****ing your health up to that extent then you are doing the right thing. I don't like when people say " no wonder you are ****ed, your taking 14g of gear/week" Im sure hes well aware of the hole hes digging and shit happens. So if he gets up and looks in the mirror and loves what he sees then a little trip to the hospital and some acid meds are the price he has to pay and imo are worth it. Better then playing warcraft and eating burgers and mountain dew all day..shit.

Atleast our unhealthy habit leads to something positive. Imo the fact that most BB have near flawless diets more then counter acts the ill effects of gear.

[SiLvErBaK]

how old are you bro? and how long have you been juicing? have your cycles always been this extreme?

I wouldn't lower dosages, I would get off completely, start pct and start focusing on your health. Do what you can to keep what you have naturally. Maybe someday you can get back on some low doses of some safer compunds. You'll kill yourself quick if you keep this shit up

[Mr Ontario]

The good old days when more was better...especially if your younger....I know as my body gets older.....there is more side affects.

[bigdaddydrew123]

imo you should think about dropping to test only for awhile,then you can slowly add things back til you figure out whats causing you to feel like shit.im taking most of what your taking now and i feel ok , but im not quite at your doses, hows your bp

[bmorlock]

Im 28 , been juicing for 5 years , i didnt alway run dosages this high , i dropped the t3 2 days ago an can honestly say i feel 80 % better im pretty sure the t3 was ****ing me up , but ill still drop the dosages just to be safe , i checked my blood pressure today and it was 126/70 3 days ago it was 164/71 so im pretty happy hopefully things keep getting better ... thanks again bro's for all the kind words !!

[Freebsd1977]

Im 28 , been juicing for 5 years , i didnt alway run dosages this high , i dropped the t3 2 days ago an can honestly say i feel 80 % better im pretty sure the t3 was ****ing me up , but ill still drop the dosages just to be safe , i checked my blood pressure today and it was 126/70 3 days ago it was 164/71 so im pretty happy hopefully things keep getting better ... thanks again bro's for all the kind words !!

Nice man! :yeah

[gojimmygo]

good to hear things are gettin better,good luck

[canadianmuscle0803]

get better bro.. in all honesty i have done cycles as large as yours and i found that lower doses actually work better for me.. i think the human body has a certain limit as to how much it can actually take.. a good example of that would be your car engine, too much oil is no good.. get well and keep us posted..

[slick rick]

for me stress brings on acid reflux the most.. kinda ****ed. That is a hard core regiment you have had going on there, i like it. But if its ****ing your health up to that extent then you are doing the right thing. I don't like when people say " no wonder you are ****ed, your taking 14g of gear/week" Im sure hes well aware of the hole hes digging and shit happens. So if he gets up and looks in the mirror and loves what he sees then a little trip to the hospital and some acid meds are the price he has to pay and imo are worth it. Better then playing warcraft and eating burgers and mountain dew all day..shit.

Atleast our unhealthy habit leads to something positive. Imo the fact that most BB have near flawless diets more then counter acts the ill effects of gear.


Dude.. did you read Bmorlocks symptoms.. I'd say it is somewhat harsher than you are implying. No matter how much you like what you see in the mirror it is not worth what he is going through.

Bmorlock- Listen to your body bro. not being able to eat solids for 2 months is a good sign something is wrong. Good luck on the recovery.

[L3]

a very good friend of mine was having the same problem, halfway through the 16 week cycle he couldnt eat solid foods he'd just throw them up right away. same with training, 5 mins in the gym and he'd be puking his guts out.

the thing is, he was running like 5 orals + 3 prohormones, so 8 orals total.

this guy is sortof a freak of nature, he's run probably about 15 cycles of m1t since he was 16 (he got really ****ed up on it like mad issues with his wee wee for 2 years before it was good to go again), i dont even know how many cycles of oral gear, he'll go to the bar 2ce a week and drop 300$ on booze DURING his cycle, and his liver values are BARELY elevated...

BUT last time he went to get a blood test when he got sick, his total cholesterol was at 28, and the upper limit on his test was 7.

so, he dropped the prohormones which were stripping away the good cholesterol, and he slowly was able to start eating whole food again.

moral of the story, cut down on the gear like you are and you'll be good to go in no time :D

good luck bro

[thelittleguy]

8 orals...are you serious? thats just *%$ed. one oral, maybe two max. anything else, is just asking for trouble.

[thelittleguy]

increasing the amount of veggies, cutting out things like alcohol, coffee and high acid foods like oranges, and tomatoes, seem to help cut down on my acid reflux.

[Houstonbc]

8 orals is retarded.

[spankmonkey]

Holly ****in hell bat man! Is more really better?
Good luck and glad to hear you are having marked improvement in how you feel, but the suggestions of lowering doses and even coming off and getting your health in order might be a good priority. After all if you are in a casket or hospital bed no one really gives a shit what your body looks like.

[L3]

8 orals is retarded.

i never said he was smart lol or else he probably wouldnt have dont m1ts at 16.

this is his last week on and hes only on 50mg winny ED, he says he feeels a million times better but he looks like shit for the amount of gear he was on :S