Underground Warning

[scottlove]

Huge 300lb. bodybuilder, out our way in Niagara, dropped dead, about a month ago, 40 years old. Apparently, his parents, (who he still lived with), wanted answers, took his juice to be tested. His tren came in at 4x the regular strength and sustanon 2x. Whether or not he knew is anybody's guess but I can only imagine what his heart was doing at those levels. Condolences all around and like everyone always says, know your source.

[cog]

Huge 300lb. bodybuilder, out our way in Niagara, dropped dead, about a month ago, 40 years old. Apparently, his parents, (who he still lived with), wanted answers, took his juice to be tested. His tren came in at 4x the regular strength and sustanon 2x. Whether or not he knew is anybody's guess but I can only imagine what his heart was doing at those levels. Condolences all around and like everyone always says, know your source.
I doubt twice the test did it.His BP was likely high from the Tren,but the autopsy tells the story.

[Hosehead]

Huge 300lb. bodybuilder, out our way in Niagara, dropped dead, about a month ago, 40 years old. Apparently, his parents, (who he still lived with), wanted answers, took his juice to be tested. His tren came in at 4x the regular strength and sustanon 2x. Whether or not he knew is anybody's guess but I can only imagine what his heart was doing at those levels. Condolences all around and like everyone always says, know your source.

Wow. Hard to believe that anyone is selling overdosed gear. Never heard of a guy dying because of anything to do with the gear. Test has never killed a soul, **** some pros run 5 grams a week as a baseline. Tren is just plain nasty for me. Tried it last month for the first time and I've never felt worse in my life. My GUESS is that at 300lbs a multitude of things can go wrong. BP , blocked arteries, cholesterol levels etc etc. 300lbs , whether you are 40% bf or 14% bf is a lot of stress on the heart. I seriously doubt the gear alone contributed to his death.

[scottlove]

I was thinking, probably a combination of BP, and clogged arteries and hitting 800mg. of Tren/day or every other day would take anyone out.

[cog]

I was thinking, probably a combination of BP, and clogged arteries and hitting 800mg. of Tren/day or every other day would take anyone out.
800?Some people use 200 mg EOD or ED?I thought 100 ace ED was plenty.

[cog]

I was thinking, probably a combination of BP, and clogged arteries and hitting 800mg. of Tren/day or every other day would take anyone out.
800?Some people use 200 mg EOD or ED?I thought 100 ace ED was plenty.But then I don't believe Dorian got that hard on 225 hex weekly either .

[St]

The main problem is the left ventricle is enlarged and that is the main problem now, plus bp, and hdl/ldl will all effect it.
I love 2x or 4 x extra strength haha, twice the size.;)

[scottlove]

800?Some people use 200 mg EOD or ED?I thought 100 ace ED was plenty.But then I don't believe Dorian got that hard on 225 hex weekly either .

This is what nobody is quite sure of, did he know it was so overdosed and adjust his injections accordingly or was he shooting 1 or even 2cc/day without knowing?

[Banacek]

My technology still resides in the old days, but would't 500mg test crash harder than Randy Rhoads? Or at least feel like death?

[IronRobi]

If somebody is selling Tren dosed at 4x the strength of the label, I need to meet that somebody and get me some! I just can't see any lab doing that as it would add significant amounts to the production cost. And I have a hard time thinking mom and dad would just be able to pick up a bottle of tren and walk it down to a lab to find out the dosage.... This story to me sounds like one of those gym myths that started as one thing and as it gets told through countless people ends up as a whole other story.

[scottlove]

If somebody is selling Tren dosed at 4x the strength of the label, I need to meet that somebody and get me some! I just can't see any lab doing that as it would add significant amounts to the production cost. And I have a hard time thinking mom and dad would just be able to pick up a bottle of tren and walk it down to a lab to find out the dosage.... This story to me sounds like one of those gym myths that started as one thing and as it gets told through countless people ends up as a whole other story.
I don't think it would be that difficult to take a vial from his room and find out exactly what it was. As for the cost, who knows, maybe he payed 4x the price to get this tren. I do know this man, in passing, so there is a face to the story. Anyway, I ain't touching tren anytime soon.

[cog]

I don't think it would be that difficult to take a vial from his room and find out exactly what it was. As for the cost, who knows, maybe he payed 4x the price to get this tren. I do know this man, in passing, so there is a face to the story. Anyway, I ain't touching tren anytime soon.

High concentration oils are not recommended.Plain test is a lot easier on the body.

[IronRobi]

I don't think it would be that difficult to take a vial from his room and find out exactly what it was. As for the cost, who knows, maybe he payed 4x the price to get this tren. I do know this man, in passing, so there is a face to the story. Anyway, I ain't touching tren anytime soon.

My apologies brother. I'm not saying the whole story is not true, but you know how quickly and easily things can get blown up as it passes through 20-30ppl. It's like that old game of telephone we used to play as kids. If it really were that easy as just taking a vial in somewhere and getting an exact dosage, then you'd never see a thread with arguments about lab A being underdosed, etc... We'd all just be sending vials in to test our stuff.

I think the moral everybody should take from this story is that we all need to respect the products we use and realize that these are powerful hormones and they can have negative effects on us if we don't treat them properly. You're only given 1 shot at life so don't be foolish with it.

[scottlove]

My apologies brother. I'm not saying the whole story is not true, but you know how quickly and easily things can get blown up as it passes through 20-30ppl. It's like that old game of telephone we used to play as kids. If it really were that easy as just taking a vial in somewhere and getting an exact dosage, then you'd never see a thread with arguments about lab A being underdosed, etc... We'd all just be sending vials in to test our stuff.

I think the moral everybody should take from this story is that we all need to respect the products we use and realize that these are powerful hormones and they can have negative effects on us if we don't treat them properly. You're only given 1 shot at life so don't be foolish with it.No worry's. I know what you mean about those stories, I've heard many over the years. This one, does indeed have some basis of truth though. This dude was a pretty heavy juicer and there's been some really questionable UG being sold in our area. Real amateur looking crap, right down to the shitty label that looks like somebody drew it freehand at their kitchen table in their spare time. That being said, we know who is good and who to watch out for, it's just a matter of knowing your source.