steroids for women- please help

[fathead]

ok- long story short i have a friend (female) who is very serious about basically become a mass monster.

She is currently 5' and around 135-140, muscular. She has used all sorts of stuff but never in a structured way or in a real cycle. It blows my mind but she has used anadrol, tren, deca, etc, but again has no idea what she was doing.

She is not worried about experiencing sides as long as she is making the progress she wants to. If sides can be minimized or avoided than obviously that would be great. Looking at her you can tell she has experienced sides...

Basically im looking for some help/input/advise or even a link to some info to help her design a real cycle. Im not comfortable reccomending dosages of serious anabolics to a female the way i would a male.

So any advise would be great, basically until now shes been an experiment and she wants to do the real deal.

thanks

[Mr Ontario]

I wouldn't be comfortable in doing so either.

[Freebsd1977]

You mention she has some "serious sides", wow what would those be? Hair where you shouldn't have any? Longer clit?

[Kilburn]

tell her to stick with anavar and primo unless she wants to turn into a man.

[fathead]

i guess what im getting at is.... can females become massively muscular using only the mild stuff like var/primo/winny or do they need to get into other things like test?

keep in mind, this isnt some chick who is hoping to lean up for the beach this summer, she wants to gain 30lbs.

[Kilburn]

if she wants to be a mass monster then ya, she's going to have to use the male shit like test and tren. but then yes, she's also going to turn into a man.

[BolicPower]

var i'd say is safest, i've seen some girls on test, and yes they had some sides. hair on face, and even thinning of hair. i belive she went as high as 500mg enth but she's was massive but not in fem way, just like a dude. Even she's been on TrenA and yes again sides, but i guess she don't care.
If your friend shows signs, i'd try to tell her to do just a bit higher dose of var. Try to get HG or a good place to make sure it's legit, i cant tell you how many little places have var/dbol/winny all labeled same, some real assholes out there, but i guess if you know the person, you'd be fine.

[tex]

var and primo....unless she wants her clit to be big as yer cack....

[The Terminator]

var and primo....unless she wants her clit to be big as yer cack....

You forgot winny, as it can easily be used in women as well.

Matt ;)

[trykillthis]

I have heard winny is a no-no. To androgenic for most women.

I have a female friend that will be doing nationals this year and to be honest I don't think she is too far away from getting her pro card. All she uses is 20-30mg anavar a day and 2 IU GH.

I think the biggest thing is her diet.

[fathead]

I have heard winny is a no-no. To androgenic for most women.

I have a female friend that will be doing nationals this year and to be honest I don't think she is too far away from getting her pro card. All she uses is 20-30mg anavar a day and 2 IU GH.

I think the biggest thing is her diet.

hey- can u give me an idea of

1) how big she is (like can she walk down the street without getting stared at)

and 2) does she suffer any sides from that?

[JonnyO]

I got some experience doing cycles for female BBers and knowledge of some of the top NPC figure girls and a few female pro's. And I can tell you they use everything. If she wants to play it safe, Anavar and Primo would be the best choices. But sounds like she is not concerned about side effects, so something like prop, tren, GH and slin in small doses a few times a week will make her very good gains. But I'm not going to lay out a cycle and dosages for you.

[D-S]

Put her on something like Test, Deca, Tbol and Primo for now....keep her away from tren as long as u can!

[Elliott]

If a woman wants to just cut some fat to look nice fo rthe beach and not turn into a man what does she take?

[BigWheel]

If a woman wants to just cut some fat to look nice fo rthe beach and not turn into a man what does she take?

"nothing" her goals can be reached clean

[MoooBaby]

My god are there women who take trenN?

[420]

Oh my imagine the mood of a girl on tren and on her period and dieting. Yikes..

[Mr.Meat]

I have a close FBB friend on SA NPP and she is loving it. Plus everybody at her gym is comenting on here size gains. She is running 100mg 3 times per week, it has been 6 or so weeks and her gain have not slowed down.

In the past she has used
Winniy
Anavar
primobolan depot
deca

With good results w/o many side effects.

also some douche told her to try
fina
test cyp

Which she doe not recommend to any female.

I would toatally recommend your friend to try NPP 50-100mg E3D and see how it goes from there. Its an injectable so there is no liver strain plus its relatively cheap to cycle. She could add a bit of winny if her gain slow down or to bust through a plateau.