whats wrong with being a juicer?

[grindtight]

ill never understand what the hell is going on in the world regarding the juice issue.what is wrong with a guy wanting to run a lil juice to enhance his personal being.i mean not trafficing not imorting large quantities but just person stuff.i think the whole juice epidemic regarding le in the us mostly is just out of hand.there are more serious crimes out there that need attention them waisting the tax payers dollars the cost of the whole le operations and there time involved busting a non addictive product be it shedule 3 or not. seems back in the mid 80s it was a smogasborg and no one had a care in the world about this issue why now.its time to move on and solve real crime.

[champcar99]

seems back in the mid 80s it was a smogasborg and no one had a care in the world about this issue why now.

I tend to think Jose , Mcguire, Bonds.. Baseball in general...

[mcgee]

money and politics

[spankmonkey]

money and politics

Dido. Need money to run politics and you need politicians to steal the money.

[The Terminator]

No one in the government makes money off of legal gear, that's why. There's no pharmaceutical companies that would take on producing large quantities for a small profit when there are other things that they can make money from.

As well, the whole sports issue. And we all know how that one is going, you know, with drug testing stopping all steroid use and all....

Matt

[bigben]

Its absolutely retarded. Its not a criminal or public health issue. You can go in and get cosmetic surgery or botox injections, take presciption weight loss drugs, drink till your liver crumbles and its not a crime. But be caught with steroids in the U.S. and your a criminal. Their right f'ng out to lunch.

[Namelessone]

Because the LE are scared we are going to do one of the following:

1. Inject and drive a vehicle resulting in an accident that causes death.
2. Inject and do stupid stuff like breaking into stores etc.
3. Inject and prostitute to support our addiction.
4. Inject and bar brawl
5. Inject and cause our kidneys to rott
6. Inject and fall down on the pavement and require medical attention
7. Inject and become completely vulnerable to sex with strangers and pickup an STD.
8. Inject and rape someone
9. Inject too much and get injection poisioning
10. Inject and drive at the same time....

Oh wait, thats alcohol, the legal stuff... My bad....

[Hidngod]

Because LE can point at all the as busts & say, "See, the war on drugs is working." And direct the attention away from all the meth, crank, crack, extacy abuse, and associated crimes, going on.

[dainbramaged]

Because LE can point at all the as busts & say, "See, the war on drugs is working." And direct the attention away from all the meth, crank, crack, extacy abuse, and associated crimes, going on.

Exactly. They obviously know they can't win the war on the harder drugs, so they pick a fight they 'think' they can win to make it look like they can actually accomplish something. It's like beating up the smallest, most pathetic kid at school instead of trying to take on the whole football team at once. Not to mention they would consider steroid users a 'fringe' group from which no one in the general public would care if they lost their drugs. Heaven forbid though, if you tried to take away pot, alcohol, cigs from the public.

[The Terminator]

Heaven forbid though, if you tried to take away pot, alcohol, cigs from the public.

Freaking awesome point. I mean, really, I live in BC. I have friends who deal, and almost everyone I know smokes weed. Do I care if they do? No, as long as they're not trying to get me onto it, and they don't smoke in my condo. My deck? Sure, we're BBQ'ing, I could care less.

How many people are actually arrested for it? How many issues - health, criminal, or otherwise, are created from Alcohol and cig's?

Take avid drinkers and those who smoke weed - they are likely to get people to try to do the same thing they are to their consciousness so that they can feel justified in it. Take someone who is injecting Test - are they going to go around to people that they know who do not take AAS and try to convince them to use it? No! That's ridiculous and asinine in every way. AAS use is a very personal decision, that not everyone thinks is necessary. However, there are many out there unlike myself that like to alter their mental state, and use substances to help them relax.

Take one of my friends, the one who sells weed currently. He used to do a lot of hard drugs - Coke, meth, some heroin, other things I'm sure I have no knowledge of, and copious amounts of weed. And I do mean copious. Now he's down occasional coke use, occasional shroom use, and copious amounts of weed. Him and his room mate floor me and a lot of others with the amount that they smoke, and yet they do not become stupid with it's use. They're just the same. Why? Because they've admitted to me they just use it now to maintain "normal", or "level". They smoke so much, that life is not normal without it.

And I'm fine with that. They're responsible with it, and when they're smoking around me we're usually making some damned fantastic food or watching a movie. They don't drive, and don't abuse anything else with it, except for have a few beers.

It's interesting though, and always will be, that all these things that are mind altering are allowed, and something that is perfectly capable of physical and sexual enhancement is illegal to buy or sell.

Matt

[bigben]

There's so much shaping of thinking based on the profit motive. I bet Major league sports teams are worried about loss of revenue over drug scandals. Governments promote gambling that has led to numerous thefts, bankruptcies and suicides and they continue to build more casinos. They just haven't found a palatable way to profit from AAS yet. The relationship between law and morality is entirely subjective.

[Hidngod]

There's so much shaping of thinking based on the profit motive. I bet Major league sports teams are worried about loss of revenue over drug scandals. Governments promote gambling that has led to numerous thefts, bankruptcies and suicides and they continue to build more casinos. They just haven't found a palatable way to profit from AAS yet. The relationship between law and morality is entirely subjective.

Terrific statement, right there.

[tony_canuck]

the main reason I believe is that the people (majority) don't like the look (jealousy, or many other excuses) and say its "bad" like the devil. And they are in power and have the votes. Why do you think drinking and smoking is legal? The politicians smoke and drink and most people do as well! If most people (more than 70%) used some juice, they would legalize it, tax it etc... like everything else. Thats why in certain areas where a lot of people do it (ie south cali) they have those 'longevity' clinics where you can get legit hgh from a doc. Why? Because people there like to look and feel good and they see no problem with it. The real problem is most people don't care about how they look, (one just needs to look at the obesity problem) and say screw those juice monkeys, ban all that crap.

[tex]

the masses are uneducated on the subject and only believe what they hear in the media, thus keeping all the stereotypes and myths about seroid use alive. it's up to the users to educate the ppl around us, well the ones that won't turn us in to le....lol

[rated_rko]

yah its society we live it

[Freebsd1977]

Because the LE are scared we are going to do one of the following:

1. Inject and drive a vehicle resulting in an accident that causes death.
2. Inject and do stupid stuff like breaking into stores etc.
3. Inject and prostitute to support our addiction.
4. Inject and bar brawl
5. Inject and cause our kidneys to rott
6. Inject and fall down on the pavement and require medical attention
7. Inject and become completely vulnerable to sex with strangers and pickup an STD.
8. Inject and rape someone
9. Inject too much and get injection poisioning
10. Inject and drive at the same time....

Oh wait, thats alcohol, the legal stuff... My bad....

Great post MrRight! :D