Gears with too much alcohol?

[simon85]

Supp guys.

I'm on a cut right. (test+tren+mast+t3+aro)

When I inject Mast(.75ml=100mg) and Prop(.75ml=150mg), I feel sore for 4-5 days. But at least from days to days, the pain is reducing.

I'm limping and I can't train properly. But I don't have any lump and red spot.

The tren is fine(fatter vial). the prop and mast vials (slimmer vials) are very painful. Is it possible there's too much alcohol? I never experienced this before.

Any inputs?

I'm about to add sterile oil to dissipate the alcohol content. I tried the b12 and it didn't worked.

[MUSCULARMAYOR]

where can you pick up sterile oil? is it easy to get?

[simon85]

where can you pick up sterile oil? is it easy to get?

A buddy of mine who home brew sent me 50ml. I don't have the materials and you need to sterilize it.

[MassNutrition]

Bro, you're injecting a double wammy... Both compounds (the Test and Mast) are both Propionate esters. Usually, for some individuals, the Test Prop ester is enough to cripple anyone, ESPECIALLY at 200mg/ml (wow!). The Propionate ester, because of its short half-life, is VERY acidic. This is where the pain comes from. I've seen guys get pain from Sustanon and that only contains 30mg! Some individuals can be very sensitive.

I don't know what lab you're using, but if you're using Test Prop at 200mg/ml, chances are, there MAY be a shitload of solvent in there. So, given these 2 factors (DOUBLE dose of Propionate from the Test and Drostanolone, plus the heavy solvents) it could be where your pain is coming from.

All I can personally suggest is to spread out your injection volume (with more frequent injections), and seperate your Test and Masteron shots (alternate days). Cutting your compounds and using B12 won't do shit...

[St]

Yes just as Mass said prop and mast are painful as there short esters.

[Mr Ontario]

Human prop = No pain! :)

[KINE]

Human prop = No pain! :)

HG prop hurts me, even get light flu like symptoms every time but gets better with more shots. I gotz some test prop in EO and im wonderin how its gonna feel. ppl say its painless but it seems its different with ever body.

[simon85]

The things is that I'm used to inject these compounds together without no pain ( prop200 and mast125). I was wondering if anyone else felt the difference lately. It's look like there's too much alcohol in the newer batches.

I injected last Monday .75ml of mast in my chest and I'm still a little bit sore.

[simon85]

Its the propinate ester that causes pain not the BA. BA is the same percentage in most oils.

I'm used to inject prop with no pain. I injected cc's of prop200 and mast125 before without any problem. This batch contains a little bit more BA. I'll try to cut it with sterile oil and it should be good.

[BolicPower]

You notice when anything hurts people say it's BA, i've used gear that had 10% and yes SLIGHT STING not to much, but most UG's base at 2%, i'd say most pain would come from the raw hormone itself, impurities, or just shitty. i've used prop with no pain and some with swelling, made same way. So i highly doubt BA

[MassNutrition]

You notice when anything hurts people say it's BA, i've used gear that had 10% and yes SLIGHT STING not to much, but most UG's base at 2%, i'd say most pain would come from the raw hormone itself, impurities, or just shitty. i've used prop with no pain and some with swelling, made same way. So i highly doubt BA

I agree, to a certain point... most labs might use 2% as a base. I use gear with nothing less than 5%. But who's to say that these UG labs aren't using more? Maybe a bad batch? Maybe a miscalculation in the brewing process? Who knows... you take for granted what is written on the label. BA could be the problem since "simon" has used the identical stuff in the past with no problems... so why is there a problem now? Could be the batch...

[simon85]

I agree, to a certain point... most labs might use 2% as a base. I use gear with nothing less than 5%. But who's to say that these UG labs aren't using more? Maybe a bad batch? Maybe a miscalculation in the brewing process? Who knows... you take for granted what is written on the label. BA could be the problem since "simon" has used the identical stuff in the past with no problems... so why is there a problem now? Could be the batch...

I just hope it's not a dirty batch.

He said he passed microbiology test on them and it's sterile. So I'll should get use to it.

It's been 6 days since I shot my glute and I can't sit on it without any pain. Also I can't squat.... But no redness or lump...
We'll see!

[bottleneckblooz]

Human prop = No pain! :)

Wish I could find some of that:(

[simon85]

I tried mixing my shots with sterile oil and I think it's working.

.75ml of mast, .75 of prop and 1cc of sterile oil

My quad is in good shape this morning. I'll see how it's look tomorrow.

[MassNutrition]

I tried mixing my shots with sterile oil and I think it's working.

.75ml of mast, .75 of prop and 1cc of sterile oil

My quad is in good shape this morning. I'll see how it's look tomorrow.

Good news, looks like it was the BA content. It was the only reason left for the pain since you have used the two compounds in the past with good success. Like I said, a bad batch or a miscalculation in the manufacturing process...