using chains???

[Vitamin S]

p,

our gym got chains today they were 25lbs each. i used them and i noticed it in addition to adding weight makes it hard to squeeze at the top which was good i need more of that. what is the difference between chains and bands? is there any place for them in bodybuilding.

thanks.

[Centurion]

All those chains and bands stuff utter crap for me. People are only showing off rather than working properly. I'm just laughing my ass off when I see someone who is wrapping up these stuff. I guess they are just trying to be different but seem so stupid. Just grasp a couple of dumbbells and lift like a man that's all we need.

[scottlove]

All those chains and bands stuff utter crap for me. People are only showing off rather than working properly. I'm just laughing my ass off when I see someone who is wrapping up these stuff. I guess they are just trying to be different but seem so stupid. Just grasp a couple of dumbbells and lift like a man that's all we need. Don't be so quick to judge. I would say every one of the strongest men in the world has used chains in helping them get to the massive weights they push. Bodybuilders not so much, but they definitely have a place in powerlifting. Grabbing a couple dumbell's is lifting like a man? Trying laying under the bar with 4 plates a side and the chains hanging off the ends and see if you don't feel like a man, that is, if it doesn't embed itself in your chest cavity.

[Vitamin S]

scottlove you nailed it with your post. there is a place for everything in the gym done properly i just wanna know how it can help in bodybuilding other than getting one stronger so he can instead of handling 120lb dumbells now handle 130s for the same sets and reps.

[scottlove]

scottlove you nailed it with your post. there is a place for everything in the gym done properly i just wanna know how it can help in bodybuilding other than getting one stronger so he can instead of handling 120lb dumbells now handle 130s for the same sets and reps. Only judging from what I've seen in my gyms, there are a few high level national bodybuilders in the Hamilton, Niagara area, I've never seen any of them using the chains.

[cog]

scottlove you nailed it with your post. there is a place for everything in the gym done properly i just wanna know how it can help in bodybuilding other than getting one stronger so he can instead of handling 120lb dumbells now handle 130s for the same sets and reps.

There is a YouTube vid of a guy pressing db's with chains.He has wrist straps with a hook.Makes sense to me,since the top portion of the press is always too easy regardless of how much anybody tells you to squeeze.I see phatkid has a thread on dips with chains.

[tex]

chains help the lockout....as the bar raises it gets heavier. bands are also good for this......overloading the lockout and busting through plateaus......reverse the bands and you can really torch your central nervous system. also helps get your rep speed up which is key to increasing your lifts.....bigger lifts make you bigger.....def. a tool you can use for bodybuilding just not every workout or youll fry your cns......

[scottlove]

There is a YouTube vid of a guy pressing db's with chains.He has wrist straps with a hook.Makes sense to me,since the top portion of the press is always too easy regardless of how much anybody tells you to squeeze.I see phatkid has a thread on dips with chains. Dumbells with chains? That sounds a little too cumbersome for my liking. I have a hard enough time, when doing seated dumbell press, just getting the dumbells into position to start. Kicking 130's up off your knee isn't always the easiest manouver of the day. And you're right Tex, I have seen dips being done with the chains, I forgot all about those. As for helping with the lockout though, a bodybuilder doesn't usually want to lock out, but wants to keep that weight moving for the big pump

[born2juice4ever]

chains help the lockout....as the bar raises it gets heavier. bands are also good for this......overloading the lockout and busting through plateaus......reverse the bands and you can really torch your central nervous system. also helps get your rep speed up which is key to increasing your lifts.....bigger lifts make you bigger.....def. a tool you can use for bodybuilding just not every workout or youll fry your cns......



Scottlove I love your post hahahahah you said it right.

But tex has the righ tmaterial IMO.
Anytime plateaus or boredom comes into the scene, the central nervous system kicks back= no results, injuries, plateaus.

I have never used chains, nor do I see myself using bands iether, those aren't for me, no harm there. I am more conventional build, burn, strength phase kind of guy, with creative lifting in between.

More power to those willing to try some of those new trends. And as long as they keep themselves happy and lifting, it's all that matters.


B2J

[scottlove]

Scottlove I love your post hahahahah you said it right.

But tex has the righ tmaterial IMO.
Anytime plateaus or boredom comes into the scene, the central nervous system kicks back= no results, injuries, plateaus.

I have never used chains, nor do I see myself using bands iether, those aren't for me, no harm there. I am more conventional build, burn, strength phase kind of guy, with creative lifting in between.

More power to those willing to try some of those new trends. And as long as they keep themselves happy and lifting, it's all that matters.


B2J That is all that really matters. If trying new things keeps you from getting bored and quitting the gym, then so be it. Maybe you'll get some surprise results that you didn't really expect. (By the way, nice ass Born2juice.) haha

[Praetorian]

Bands and chains can help in BB efforts. But you will need some decent instruction on them. Check out elitefts.com and westside-barbell.com for more info. A few top FBB pros are now utilizing them in their training.
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[Andre Gregoire]

All those chains and bands stuff utter crap for me. People are only showing off rather than working properly. I'm just laughing my ass off when I see someone who is wrapping up these stuff. I guess they are just trying to be different but seem so stupid. Just grasp a couple of dumbbells and lift like a man that's all we need.

The chains are for accommodating resistance. Basically when squatting the weight is always harder to handle at the bottom and then reaching the top you are stronger so during the full movement you are not getting optimal loading.

Adding heavy chains to the bar you make it so that at the bottom of the movement they are fully unloaded and at the top they are fully loaded.

Say you have a 400lb bar with 50lbs of chains, well at the bottom it's 400lbs and at the top it's 450lbs.

Since your top end is stronger you are working the top end harder then if you just used 400lbs. Also, if you put 450lbs you wouldn't be able to do full range of motion reps.

Another benefit is that as the with a normal bar when you explode momentum kicks in making the top part easier so you can slow down or ease up a bit on the bar.

With chains you need to consistently and quickly push the weight up, it gets harder so you never ease up. Another benefit is that without chains you need to slow down the bar to not lock out your knees or elbows too violently, with chains it slows down for you.

Since I started using chains on Shoulder Presses my shoulders have never felt better and my explosiveness on Shoulder Pressing and Front Squatting has increased tremendously which has a nice carry over to Strongman.

Overall, I would agree that chains and bands are better for strength then size however there is some benefit to size also since you get more constant muscle tension with the better loading curve.

Ron Partlow wrote this article on the subject: http://www.rxmuscle.com/articles/nutrition/7772-my-experience-with-bands-and-chains.html

[cog]

The chains are for accommodating resistance. Basically when squatting the weight is always harder to handle at the bottom and then reaching the top you are stronger so during the full movement you are not getting optimal loading.

Adding heavy chains to the bar you make it so that at the bottom of the movement they are fully unloaded and at the top they are fully loaded.

Say you have a 400lb bar with 50lbs of chains, well at the bottom it's 400lbs and at the top it's 450lbs.

Since your top end is stronger you are working the top end harder then if you just used 400lbs. Also, if you put 450lbs you wouldn't be able to do full range of motion reps.

Another benefit is that as the with a normal bar when you explode momentum kicks in making the top part easier so you can slow down or ease up a bit on the bar.

With chains you need to consistently and quickly push the weight up, it gets harder so you never ease up. Another benefit is that without chains you need to slow down the bar to not lock out your knees or elbows too violently, with chains it slows down for you.

Since I started using chains on Shoulder Presses my shoulders have never felt better and my explosiveness on Shoulder Pressing and Front Squatting has increased tremendously which has a nice carry over to Strongman.

Overall, I would agree that chains and bands are better for strength then size however there is some benefit to size also since you get more constant muscle tension with the better loading curve.

Ron Partlow wrote this article on the subject: http://www.rxmuscle.com/articles/nutrition/7772-my-experience-with-bands-and-chains.html

Partlow lays it out quite simply there.I recently added a pair to the garage,like them with the safety squat bar,seems like the top half of a rep is fairly wasted time without them.I hook two together,one part way down for a one handed overhead triceps extension,no plate means you can get your hand right in tight behind your neck.

[Praetorian]

p,

our gym got chains today they were 25lbs each. i used them and i noticed it in addition to adding weight makes it hard to squeeze at the top which was good i need more of that. what is the difference between chains and bands? is there any place for them in bodybuilding.

thanks.

Both can be used with success in BB. As you flt there is increased tension at the top or thy can be used to increase the weight used ie reverse bands to they assist at the bottom and less at the top.

P