currently on dylatestryl

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hi everyone im 32 years old and currently on hrt. It all started after doing heavy drugs for years and drinking like a fish. After getting my life back on track i notice i was a 1/4 the man i use to be. I was not a bodybuilder by any means but i was in shape and felt good about myself.

Finally after asking my doctor and going for mri cat scans blood work. Sure enough i had nailed it, i had the testosterone of a 70 year old at 31.

I was prescribed androgel 1%. At first it worked well then it clearly stooped working and i was scared to exposure to my gf and her sons.

So i asked to get switched to shots. i am now on dylatestryl at 200mg every 2 weeks. After a month of that i quicly changed my dosage to 100mg every week!! bingo i feel awesome libido is back and i started training again!!! life is good lol.

After 5 years of drugs and abuse i was 226.5lbs. Since i am 6,0 tall it does not weem that bad but i was fat lol i am now down to 215lbs i added muscle endurance is coming back i feel great. I also have my diet in check.

Now to the good part. I want to do a cycle.

500mg test-e EW for 12 weeks

40mg dianabol ED for 4 weeks

0.5mg Armidex EOD

since i am already on test e for hrt my question is do i need any for on pct? i figure no since i will just continue my regular dosage of 100mg a week after the cycle.

Any input would be appreciated.

Im happy to be on board i chose this site due to i am Canadian!! also i got alot of information off these forums. Hi everyone!!

[tex]

how long have you had your diet and training in check? youll want a few years of clean training under your belt before jumping into a cycle....don't mess with the dbol......no need for pct as youll just continue on your trt dose. congrats on kicking the booze and drugs!

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Thanks Tex,

I had my diet and training in check for 4 months. i plan on doing ym cycle in another 4-6 months.

I am currently working on endurance and loosing fat.

226 to 215 in 4 months while gaining some muscle. alot more fat lost then muscle for sure but my strength has gone up alot.

im lifting light 12-15 reps for 3 sets following a old routine i use to use works wonders for me. I had to get some endurance and strengh back before lighting heavy witch i am not there yet.

i am setting myself up so when i do my cycle i will go for mass and lift heavy.

Should i just run the test e alone?

In your opinion why no dbol since alot of people swear by it for bulking?

My plan is to complete this cycle then take 12 weeks off then so another adding some winstrol into the mix to cut down.

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I agree with tex in no need for pct just taper your dose back down to 100mg a week. If you want to add in an oral go with anavar at 50mg every day for 6 weeks starting it in week 4 of your test E cycle.

I also agree with the wait another 12-16 months before jumping into anything. 100mg a week is a high HRT dose, double what I have been prescribed. You should be able to make fairly substantial gains off that dose alone and a good diet.

good luck

[tex]

youre only 4 months in.....wait.....you need a solid base to work from. its like putting nitrous on your daily driver sedan....sure itll do something....itll blow the **** up. get your body used to working out......like #8 said....the trt dose you are on should be plenty to work with for now......

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with 100mg i injected saturday and i got my blood work on the friday the results came back at

free testosterone 84.5 pmol/l

reference range 31-94

really im where a healthy 25 year old should be for life

estradiol 8

my endo said the starting dose is 200mg every 2 weeks all i did was divide the dose since way too many valleys in mood by the 10 days i was out of it completely.

now every 7 days is perfect still a small dip but nothing major.

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im no expert but think your dose is very low since he explained to me a healthy male produces 8-14mg a day of test.

he said take away the sesame oil ester and really your getting about 85-90 mg out of the 100 mg.

my natural testosterone is shut down completely.

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i did work out also for years before all of these events. im 215 but another 15 lbs and i will be pretty cut. I totally agree with you guys to wait a bit longer.

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after reading even more i will only do 500mg test e a week for 12 weeks and see how that goes for the first cycle.

I cannot find any information on someone like me who is already on hrt.

Im open to suggestions regarding what i could add to my first cycle to maximize my gains. Thank you in advance.

[tex]

maximize your gains with lots of good food, rest and proper training....keep it simple....you dont need a boatload of drugs

[tex]

im no expert but think your dose is very low since he explained to me a healthy male produces 8-14mg a day of test.

he said take away the sesame oil ester and really your getting about 85-90 mg out of the 100 mg.

my natural testosterone is shut down completely. its closer to 70mg i believe....

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just going by what my endo told me. From what im guessing human is grade is probably better since everyone i know is willing to trade me 1 5ml of mine for 2 10 ml underground.

Maybe thats where the difference is in absorption?

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lets say for my second cycle i would like to get a lean look. What would you all advice me to do?

From the information i got so far first cycle 500mg test e keep it simple eat right lots of sleep and train right.

taper off at the end of the cycle to resume my hrt.


for my second cycle what can i add to it to cut?

[tex]

just change your diet from bulking to cutting.....cut the carbs out.....add cardio as needed. you don't need more than the 500mg test to cut and maintain your muscle. we looking to use the least amount of gear to get the best possible result.....

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10-4 tex less damage in the long run.