T3: During a bulk

[Blitz-Test]

I am about to start a cycle;

1-9 Testosterone Propionate 130mg/eod
1-9 Testosterone Blend Omnadren 70mg/eod
1-8 Nandrolone Phenylpropionate 140mg/eod
1-4 Methyl-1-Testosterone 20mg/ed (Might extend to week 5/6)
6-11 hCG 500IU/2xweek (Mon Thurs)
PCT Setup:
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Week 11/12/13/14

+ 1-14 N-Acetyl-Cysteine 1200mg/ed

Now as you can see this cycle is a pretty big bulker, however I do not want to pack on to much fat, so I was considering dropping in T3 at 50mcg/ed throughout the cycle to aid in the maintance of my lowish bodyfat.

Will 50mcg of T3 have enough of a Catabolic effect to significantly effect my gains?

[The Terminator]

I am about to start a cycle;

1-9 Testosterone Propionate 130mg/eod
1-9 Testosterone Blend Omnadren 70mg/eod
1-8 Nandrolone Phenylpropionate 140mg/eod
1-4 Methyl-1-Testosterone 20mg/ed (Might extend to week 5/6)
6-11 hCG 500IU/2xweek (Mon Thurs)
PCT Setup:
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Week 11/12/13/14

+ 1-14 N-Acetyl-Cysteine 1200mg/ed

Now as you can see this cycle is a pretty big bulker, however I do not want to pack on to much fat, so I was considering dropping in T3 at 50mcg/ed throughout the cycle to aid in the maintance of my lowish bodyfat.

Will 50mcg of T3 have enough of a Catabolic effect to significantly effect my gains?

12.5 to 25mg T3, any more and you're likely going to shut down the thyroid gland.

It will actually help with protein synthesis, and with the androgens in your system it will negate any type of catabolic effect that would normally occur with T3 only.

Matt

[KINE]

You're better off just paying more attention to diet composition. T3 wasn't the miracle drug I expected it to be. Kinda like clen; if your diet is in check then you'll see a difference, if not, all you'll get is the shakes.
I picked up all this Tiromel but now I have no urge to use it.

[JonnyO]

12.5 to 25mg T3, any more and you're likely going to shut down the thyroid gland.


Are you sure about that?

[JonnyO]

And to answer the original question, I say go for it. I'd go with 25mcg up to 50mcg, ramp up and back down by 12.5mcg increments.

[The Terminator]

Yes, I'm sure. Anything typically over endogenous production will shut down production via the negative feedback loop, similar to HPTA shutdown. Since the body creates about 37.5mcg of T3 per day, anything under that will still typically allow for T3 production naturally, as well as the addition of the exogenous T3 with no shutdown.

Worked for me previously. :)

Matt

[JonnyO]

I've taken T3 for a year straight going over 100mcg+, no problems here and have blood work done on a regular basis.

And 12.5-25mcg you have no need to worry about any catabolic effects of it either.

[The Terminator]

I've taken T3 for a year straight going over 100mcg+, no problems here and have blood work done on a regular basis.

And 12.5-25mcg you have no need to worry about any catabolic effects of it either.

First time I ran T3 was for 6 weeks, and I got bad shut down. This last time was 4 months, and totally fine. It's strange that way. :) Both times were 100mcg, the first was a tapered cycle with lots of dosage variances, and the second time was tapered up to 100mcg, and tapered slowly down to 50mcg, and then off.

Matt

[Big D]

If Your Trying To Bulk Up Then Bulk Up, You Shouldint Worry About Fat,

[The Terminator]

If Your Trying To Bulk Up Then Bulk Up, You Shouldint Worry About Fat,

Unfortunately, gaining muscle doesn't require becoming obese. This is bodybuilding, not powerlifting. ;)

Matt

[shithead]

I've taken T3 for a year straight going over 100mcg+, no problems here and have blood work done on a regular basis.

And 12.5-25mcg you have no need to worry about any catabolic effects of it either.

Hows your blood work now?

[JonnyO]

Hows your blood work now?

Its perfect. Been a long time, just GH. I throw in some Glucophage in here and there on high carb/cal meals. Soon though.

[shithead]

Its perfect. Been a long time, just GH. I throw in some Glucophage in here and there on high carb/cal meals. Soon though.

How much gh were you taking? did you manage to maintain your muscle mass?

[JonnyO]

How much gh were you taking? did you manage to maintain your muscle mass?

It varied, from 10iu E3D to 2.5-3.3iu a day. I put on 8lbs in a few weeks with the E3D protocol, great for mass. I stay nice and lean taking it ED in the a.m. I have maintained all my size actually. Sitting around 230 with abs still.

[fathead]

It varied, from 10iu E3D to 2.5-3.3iu a day. I put on 8lbs in a few weeks with the E3D protocol, great for mass. I stay nice and lean taking it ED in the a.m. I have maintained all my size actually. Sitting around 230 with abs still.

with the 10iu e3d what exactly is the protocol you follow?

take all 10iu in one shot after training? intramuscular/subq?

food with it or no?

and, do you rotate it so youre taking it after training different bodyparts?