HGH problems

[mike1962]

This is the first time that I take hgh. I have taken about 4 cc so far and I have extreamily sore feet. My feet are numb,burn and very sore. I take 1 iu every second day. My blood is ok I just got it check. Is there any I can do or do I have to stop usage..thanks

[olddawg]

that's not very much gh, when you mean sore do they feel like they are falling asleep? Tingling? Is it all the time or only when waking? I'm wondering if you don't have a blood clot??

[mike1962]

They are sore all the time when I walk. Sometimes my toes are numb and they do tingle with my fingers

[mike1962]

I did stop for 5 days and the pain was leaving me..

[olddawg]

Hmmm, don't know bud I know that tingling and numbness are side effects, haven't come across the soreness. Are you on anything else? I'm wondering if it might be the joints? maybe someone else will chime in .

[olddawg]

this could be your answer then, some of the sided will lessen as you get used to them though, but 1 eod isn't very much

I did stop for 5 days and the pain was leaving me..

[mike1962]

I heard maybe this is it, Peripheral Neuropathy

[olddawg]

I haven't done hgh, but I've done ghpr2 and grf mod 1-29, it's supposed to release 1-2 ui's of hgh a day. I did experience some tingling, but in the hands/wrist, not the feet so I don't know.

[cog]

Who knows about the sh$; some people were peddling to mimic the numbness?I would quit that stuff.Not enough money in peptides to fake them,safer.

[Delt King]

Are you sure on your dosage? 4cc is like 40units assuming you mix it with one ml per 10iu vial.

[BigGuns21]

Are you sure on your dosage? 4cc is like 40units assuming you mix it with one ml per 10iu vial.

This was the first thing I thought of as well. I've seen a lot of guys not understand the GH math. Let us know what your GH is. Is it 10IU per vial type or like 30 or 36IU premixed or reconstituted bottles and if so how much BAC are you putting per? I'd be kind of surprised if even the best GH out there would cause such sides at your described dosing.

[mike1962]

My hgh is Arctotropin and the vials are 15ui (5mg). Iam putting a 1cc and a half water into the vials. Is this ok..

[Delt King]

At that reconstituted dosage and using one iu a day you'd be using that bottle for 15 days... is that what's happening?

[mike1962]

Yes thats it

[suppsandmore]

I would listen to them when they say chunk it. It is very important to have a good Source!!! I know what I am putting in myself. Very important. Hands numbing, carpal tunnel, normal sides. Feet???

[nitrous]

Yes thats it

You shouldn't be seeing side effects like that at that dosage.

[cog]

You shouldn't be seeing side effects like that at that dosage.

Peptides are a safer bet and legal.

[Praetorian]

Peptides are a safer bet and legal.

But no where near as effective.
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[olddawg]

Peptides are a safer bet and legal.


But no where near as effective.
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and not legal to import for other than invitro use only

[cog]

But no where near as effective.
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At 1IU daily?

[nitrous]

At 1IU daily?

Peptides would give you more than 1IU daily but I'm thinking what Praetorian is getting at is you couldn't get peptides to give you 10IU daily like you could if you wanted to with just taking GH. While peptides are legal to purchase they aren't meant for human use so saying they are legal as a reason to use them over GH isn't really valid. However, cost and benefit should be what guides you to deciding what would be best for you.

[cog]

Peptides would give you more than 1IU daily but I'm thinking what Praetorian is getting at is you couldn't get peptides to give you 10IU daily like you could if you wanted to with just taking GH. While peptides are legal to purchase they aren't meant for human use so saying they are legal as a reason to use them over GH isn't really valid. However, cost and benefit should be what guides you to deciding what would be best for you.

Certainly ghrp2 ,hexarelin and various others were developed for human use,and are used in testing and medicating patients in the U.S.The OP wasn't using 10IU's a day.Getting back to the original thrust of the thread,what do you figure this adds up to when OP experiences these symptoms at 1IU?I will take Prae's word for it that gh would be better for hardcore use,and easier no doubt.

[Praetorian]

I've run both as well as with clients...the results from peptides are lack luster at best....I am not saying i didn't see results it just that compared to HGH they pale. Dat be True has the most expansive knowledge base when it comes to peptides and I've run the optimum saturation protocol. If peptides were the boon they are marketed as the majority of pros would have them in the arsenal...this isnt happening.

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[cog]

Most of those human trials involved a different method of administration,I doubt most people want to visit the best track off 461 Ocean Blvd.

[nitrous]

What do you figure this adds up to when OP experiences these symptoms at 1IU?

As to what's causing his symptoms at 1IU I'm really not sure. My guesses at this point are either he isn't taking GH like he thinks he is and it is actually something else or it is just a concidence and something else is causing it.

[steve_d]

I heard maybe this is it, Peripheral Neuropathy

Had this last year during contest prep. In the end, have no idea what caused it. Dieting, sleeping issues, injuries... who knows, but for me personally, they all went away out nowhere. It definitely was related to some sort of nerve problem. Sciatica, etc.... Massaging helped, but only marginally. It came to the point where I could not sit for more than a few minutes at a time. No feeling in left foot, as well as a path all the way down my leg.

I just wanted to point out that this can be completely unrelated to anything you've taken supplement wise - although of course I wouldn't rule it out. First thing I'd do is stop taking the hgh, see if you notice an improvement. If you do, try again and see if it starts up again. If so, then throw it away and be glad you found out the cause. If not, then hopefully, like it did for me, the problem goes away on its own.

[Hosehead]

I used top notch GH at 2IU daily for about 3.5 months in order to heal up a torn meniscus. My feet hurt so bad when I got out of bed I was near tears. Slept better than I ever have. It all worked for the best as I healed like a mother****er. Four weeks later I'm squatting.

[nitrous]

I used top notch GH at 2IU daily for about 3.5 months in order to heal up a torn meniscus. My feet hurt so bad when I got out of bed I was near tears. Slept better than I ever have. It all worked for the best as I healed like a mother****er. Four weeks later I'm squatting.

Top notch GH is so vague it annoys me when people say that. Did you get independent lab testing done on it or purchase it at a pharmacy with a prescription?

I know pfizer's kits are 80iu and $1800 each at some of the pharmacies here. Say 30 days a month for 3.5 months is 105 days. 2IU a day that is 210iu used. That's 2.6 kits worth or $4700. Something tells me your "Top Notch" GH was not purchased at a pharmacy and I doubt you spent the $500ish it costs to get lab testing done on it.

[nitrous]

Had this last year during contest prep. In the end, have no idea what caused it. Dieting, sleeping issues, injuries... who knows, but for me personally, they all went away out nowhere. It definitely was related to some sort of nerve problem. Sciatica, etc.... Massaging helped, but only marginally. It came to the point where I could not sit for more than a few minutes at a time. No feeling in left foot, as well as a path all the way down my leg.

I just wanted to point out that this can be completely unrelated to anything you've taken supplement wise - although of course I wouldn't rule it out. First thing I'd do is stop taking the hgh, see if you notice an improvement. If you do, try again and see if it starts up again. If so, then throw it away and be glad you found out the cause. If not, then hopefully, like it did for me, the problem goes away on its own.

That definitely sounds sciatic nerve related. Good advice on how he should approach it and good to hear the issue passed for you.

[Hosehead]

Top notch GH is so vague it annoys me when people say that. Did you get independent lab testing done on it or purchase it at a pharmacy with a prescription?

I know pfizer's kits are 80iu and $1800 each at some of the pharmacies here. Say 30 days a month for 3.5 months is 105 days. 2IU a day that is 210iu used. That's 2.6 kits worth or $4700. Something tells me your "Top Notch" GH was not purchased at a pharmacy and I doubt you spent the $500ish it costs to get lab testing done on it.

Let me rephrase that - top notch black market GH. I don't need a lab test to tell me what works and I can well afford the $500. I trust my source and would only question the strength if i had shit results. That same GH helped my reproductive cycle produce a kid that is due in July. I was sterile last April. Pretty sure I don't need to spend $4700. The black market Chinese HMG and HCG apparently worked quite well too. The urologist who I saw AFTER my wife became preggers and told me I had 60 million swimmers per said I would have paid triple for the same cycle he would have prescribed - which was the same shit. But yes, I stand corrected, it isn't the most expensive shit but apparently well worth it , IMO anyway. Next time it WILL be by prescription at the pharmacy.