AAS First time

[rickerred]

Hey Prae,
If I was to try AAS for the first time what would I take. Not for competition just for say lean muscle mass? Also how much would be lost upon completion of the cycle. I am a 40yr old male, 5'8, 168 Lbs, about 15% - 20% (closer to 15) bf. Currently taking metotrexate (very hard on the liver) for rheumatoid arthritis.

[Delt King]

First thing you do is get the order straight. #1 meal plan, #2 training, #3 nutritional supplements, then and only if you've perfected these areas would you even think about getting on gear....after Lots and Lots of research and knowing the potential risks.

Just my 2cents.

[Praetorian]

Like DK says you need to get your nutrition and training optimized first. Without this adding aas is just a waste of money and time. 15% BF is not ideal to go on a lean mass program. At that fat level your insulin resistance will be very high and the weight you gain will be mostly fat and water. I would suggest working on a diet and training program...post what you are doing now. Then your goal should be to drop at least 5-8% BF prior to trying to gain. I would also suggest getting full blood work done just to see where you are now and if there are any anomalies...plus it gives you a baseline and it would be nice to see where your natural test levels are.
Once you do all this you can look at aas...most likely just testosterone.
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[drdnj]

Excellent advice guys! In fact, it is amazing how shitty you can make yourself look without having a good diet and doing AAS. In the past my diet was bang on when bulking and had some great results and stayed relatively lean--over the last year I tried a "dirty" bulk diet (yes purposely, as an experiment) and I am now stuck dieting my ass off to take off the crap. The worst part--- I estimate there were very little if any gains from a shit diet with AAS.

[rickerred]

I have done a fair amount of research, with regard to side effects and what results to expect from different types of aas. But not much if any info on if gains are totally lost or if most gains are kept. I can only assume it depends on diet and training.

Diet and training is currently one that I received last year from Ted at body athletica. I am going to have wrist surgery next week and that will side line training for 4-6 weeks. Upon return I intend to seek bodyathletica's assistance again. Perhaps upon completion of that (12-16 weeks) I will post the question again and see what you guys think. Thanks for the info.

[Praetorian]

The ability to keep gains will be based on cycle length and type of aas, post cycle nutrition, training, and proper PCT.
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[rickerred]

Thanks guys.

[Skailes]

Lots of great advice given above and really with proper nutrition and training geared towards your goal of being lean/muscular you should be able to achieve this without AAS even well into your 40s. Oh and with the meds you're taking for RA I would strongly advise you not to use AAS as there is no sense in causing liver damage just to gain a couple of pounds of muscle.