It's OK To Use Blast Straps(Rings)

[cog]

It's officially ok to use blast straps in your training,EliteFTS says so.

www.elitefts.com/documents/blaststrapreport.pdf

[faller]

They have those set up conveniently in the cable crossovers, and ya you guessed it, the PT's are all over it.

[Praetorian]

Of course they are...it looks cool for the untrained and PT's love that. Despite the risk of injury as well as not performing the exercise correctly. The EliteFTS article comes with plenty of caveats and these guys are well trained and understand limits. Still would i do them...nope...are they necessary to reach my goal...not at all...can they do plenty of shoulder damage...you betcha...is the reward vs risk leaning to the reward side....nope.
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[Skailes]

Of course they are...it looks cool for the untrained and PT's love that. Despite the risk of injury as well as not performing the exercise correctly. The EliteFTS article comes with plenty of caveats and these guys are well trained and understand limits. Still would i do them...nope...are they necessary to reach my goal...not at all...can they do plenty of shoulder damage...you betcha...is the reward vs risk leaning to the reward side....nope.
PWell said P. and lets not forget that this is for all intents and purposes gymnastic equipment. Also I remember seeing an article many many years ago by Larry Scott doing ring work at Vince Gironda's gym for his pecs and IMO the exercise looked dangerous as one little slip and you're going to injure your shoulder and/or pec. IMO leave the ring work/training for the gymnasts....plus it's really going to be no more effective for those small stabilizer muscle than using DBs for pressing, fly, laterals etc.

[cog]

It's better than db's.At the top the db's are not nearly as difficult to stabilize as the rings.Ring flyes are great.If Gironda had rings in his gym this says a lot.

[cog]

Of course they are...it looks cool for the untrained and PT's love that. Despite the risk of injury as well as not performing the exercise correctly. The EliteFTS article comes with plenty of caveats and these guys are well trained and understand limits. Still would i do them...nope...are they necessary to reach my goal...not at all...can they do plenty of shoulder damage...you betcha...is the reward vs risk leaning to the reward side....nope.
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Prae,when you consider that so many people strive to get under 500 lying on a bench....worrying about stabilizing your body weight?

These are great for dips as well.I believe these straps are less stressful on your joints than fixed point resistance.

[cog]

Jason Ferruggia discusses the straps somewhat here in an article about limiting ROM.In the comments there a few additional points,full range flyes are considered risky,but combined with the pushups are considered very effective.

www.jasonferruggia.com/should-you-always-use-a-full-range-of-motion/

[Praetorian]

The issue is the risk is very high...that point is not debatable. Yes they can be effective but will they make a significant difference in training that couldn't be gained doing a safer exercise....no. Also most of the people doing them shouldn't be....they cant even bench press correctly yet they are doing elevated push up with bands.
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[Skailes]

If you're a gymnast then great go for it as it's all a part of your sport and you don't see many/any male gymnasts doing heavy squats or deads by the way. The same applies to any sport train for your sport and don't risk injury doing any exercise that really isn't going to improve your abilities/skills on your sports playing field, and may in fact lead to an injury. So ask yourself is using rings going to induce greater pec, anterior delt or triceps development? I seriously doubt it and due to the unstable nature of the exercise being performed you are putting yourself at a much greater risk of injury, so where's the benefit in using rings I ask you.....

[cog]

If you're a gymnast then great go for it as it's all a part of your sport and you don't see many/any male gymnasts doing heavy squats or deads by the way. The same applies to any sport train for your sport and don't risk injury doing any exercise that really isn't going to improve your abilities/skills on your sports playing field, and may in fact lead to an injury. So ask yourself is using rings going to induce greater pec, anterior delt or triceps development? I seriously doubt it and due to the unstable nature of the exercise being performed you are putting yourself at a much greater risk of injury, so where's the benefit in using rings I ask you.....

Who was it that claimed that flyes were the real secret to Arnold's chest?I used to get a great pump pressing,but not anymore.Who says you can't combine them?Have you tried ring dips Patrick?

[Skailes]

Who was it that claimed that flyes were the real secret to Arnold's chest?I used to get a great pump pressing,but not anymore.Who says you can't combine them?Have you tried ring dips Patrick?Actually yes I did try them many years ago and it was such an unstable feeling and the fact that all my concentration was on keeping my hands in place and not on flexing the pecs that I saw no benefit and as such I'll just stick to parallel bars for my dips.

And the secret to Arnold's pecs was pressing and Arnold's genetics, as very few (if any) BBs have managed to rival Arnold's pec development no matter what exercise or chest routine they followed. But hey if you want to use the rings don't let fear or common sense stop you....who know's you may end up with pecs that rival or even surpass Arnold....

[cog]

Actually yes I did try them many years ago and it was such an unstable feeling and the fact that all my concentration was on keeping my hands in place and not on flexing the pecs that I saw no benefit and as such I'll just stick to parallel bars for my dips.

And the secret to Arnold's pecs was pressing and Arnold's genetics, as very few (if any) BBs have managed to rival Arnold's pec development no matter what exercise or chest routine they followed. But hey if you want to use the rings don't let fear oOr common sense stop you....who know's you may end up with pecs that rival or even surpass Arnold....

Haha,yeah....pecs just don't fill out like they used to and one shoulder is not so good after two non gym injuries.If you practice a little more the inner pecs will benefit,but some people don't believe that stuff.I used the rings a lot in my early teens,I could do an iron cross and a stable handstand but I was a lot smaller.Pullups are better with rings as well.How about trying the pullups?These are pure lol.

[warlock]

As any other tool the problem is not the tool it is the usage of the tool.

For pulling exercises there is very little risk, the same can't be said for pushing.

If you want to challenge shoulder stability: good tool.

For pure body building purposes (straight up volume + muscle building): there are better options

[Praetorian]

Exactly...you want to be a bodybuilder....then use the most efficient exercises to build muscle. A sprinter doesn't run long distance because t makes him slower and its inefficient. Decide what your ultimate goal is and design your training around that.
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[cog]

Exactly...you want to be a bodybuilder....then use the most efficient exercises to build muscle. A sprinter doesn't run long distance because t makes him slower and its inefficient. Decide what your ultimate goal is and design your training around that.
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Nothing to do with long distance Prae.Ring flyes are better than pressing I feel because you get more rom.Many people feel benching is a lousy exercise for pecs.Why not combine the two?When Skailles had a problem with ring dips it wasn't a balance problem.

[tiramisu]

I hate shoulder injuries. Gymnasts on the rings and rocks climbers always amaze me but I'm more gorilla than chimpanzee. I've got a set of quite nice rings gatherings dust in my toy box. I should probably dust them off and sell them now that they are popular again. Pull ups were fine. Anything having to do with wiggling my shoulders while adding weight and leverage on the other hand was just a bad idea.

[cog]

I hate shoulder injuries. Gymnasts on the rings and rocks climbers always amaze me but I'm more gorilla than chimpanzee. I've got a set of quite nice rings gatherings dust in my toy box. I should probably dust them off and sell them now that they are popular again. Pull ups were fine. Anything having to do with wiggling my shoulders while adding weight and leverage on the other hand was just a bad idea.

No wiggling.Stability.Pullups with rings are superior.Dips should be taken slowly but how many people have injured themselves on dip bars?Plenty.

[Praetorian]

Nothing to do with long distance Prae.Ring flyes are better than pressing I feel because you get more rom.Many people feel benching is a lousy exercise for pecs.Why not combine the two?When Skailles had a problem with ring dips it wasn't a balance problem.

Ring flyes may be useful for some as i said...depends on your sport...but i can pretty well guarantee you that the bench press built infinitely more great chests then ring flyes ever did. Yes many feel the bench press is a lousy exercise mostly because they train it incorrectly and don't understand the complexity of it. I dont combine the two because i feel the same as Skailles...balance takes the efficiency out of the exercise...instead i do wide grip dips for much better pec development.
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[cog]

Ring flyes may be useful for some as i said...depends on your sport...but i can pretty well guarantee you that the bench press built infinitely more great chests then ring flyes ever did. Yes many feel the bench press is a lousy exercise mostly because they train it incorrectly and don't understand the complexity of it. I dont combine the two because i feel the same as Skailles...balance takes the efficiency out of the exercise...instead i do wide grip dips for much better pec development.
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Sure more people have built pecs benching than ring flyes just by sheer numbers.Arnold did a lot of flyes including limited rom flyes near the bottom.Plenty of people bench bigger than Arnold,how does Tate compare?Not to mention that despite his good technique he still suffered an injury.A shotgun approach.Fixed point wide grip dips have been implicated in a lot of injuries.

[cog]

Here is an article from t-nation,the author discusses many aspects of different movements,and his love of doing curls in the squat rack lol.

www.t-nation.com/readArticle.do?id=5532723

[cog]

After some screwing around with a weight vest while pressing I came up with an easier adjustable method to add weight and kill two birds with one stone.Just put on your neck harness and add the desired weight.

[cog]

Actually three birds if you count the core work.Sore today.