Natural FTW

[actualnatural]

3rd day back to the gym in over 4 weeks. I had to put this one up. Anyone still believe me that Im natural? lol

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[cog]

Yeah.Why not?

[actualnatural]

Didnt mean to sound cocky. I just get asked all the time if Im on. I guess theres no fooling you

[cog]

Almost anybody could get fooled unless you were really huge and hard.People can be on and they don't look like it.Ive seen a friends kid,5'5 and basically the same background as Tom Platz work hard for three Frickin months and have a great sweep,everybody was asking him what he was using,he was natty.Just depends....

[ironwill]

lol....no way thats natural man....

[LonelyBedouin]

**** and here I thought you had super natural powers of flight... Now I'm disappointed :P

But seriously good base to start with,

[TT Eric]

Seems to have good potential.

Eric

[actualnatural]

lol....no way thats natural man....
I LOVE hearing that. thanks man
And no I will never start juicing

[Hosehead]

How tall are you ?

[actualnatural]

5'10 177lbs Im thinking around 12%BF

[GYMBRAT]

Potential is there to get big, good work buds

[Hosehead]

5'10 177lbs Im thinking around 12%BF

You look pretty thick for a relatively low bodweight, I'd guess from those pics you'd be around 190 lbs at that height and condition. Are your legs and back up to snuff ?

[ironwill]

I LOVE hearing that. thanks man
And no I will never start juicing

LOL....In all seriousness, you have a good base man....Keep up the hard work..

[actualnatural]

My back is my best muscle. My legs are catching up, but my upper body deffinately over shadows them. 25"' at mid point. I only started doing legs like 2 years ago. I figured because I played hockey there was no need to do them. big mistake. Still, Im squating 365lbs to parallel without a spot. So They should catch up. Im hoping when Praetorian starts my first clean bulk in a couple months that Ill make up some ground.

[Hosehead]

My back is my best muscle. My legs are catching up, but my upper body deffinately over shadows them. 25"' at mid point. I only started doing legs like 2 years ago. I figured because I played hockey there was no need to do them. big mistake. Still, Im squating 365lbs to parallel without a spot. So They should catch up. Im hoping when Praetorian starts my first clean bulk in a couple months that Ill make up some ground.

Good squat numbers dude. Your legs WILL , not should , catch up. Seems as though you have put together a quality build sans AAS. With your genetics your body can still go a long way without gear. Having said that, once you feel you've tapped out your potential there is no harm in running a little bit of test. AAS is safe to use if researched properly and not abused. Good luck either way and congrats on your hard work thus far.

[actualnatural]

Thanks man, not interested though.

[ironwill]

Thanks man, not interested though.

I was the same way, good on ya if that is the path you so choose...
I maxed out at about 225, and very lean....I busted my ass day in and out, did all the tricks..405 bench press, 500 lb squat....
Then i partook, now numbers for strength are higher, not as much as my bodyweight went up, not even close..
Now at 250-260 lbs, i am very lean, look great, IMO...BUT, the numbers are not a whole heck of a lot higher in my lifts, they do go up, BUT, not as much as my bodyweight and LBM did...
So i personally think they assist in recovery, putting meat on them bones, and assist in nutrient partitioning, and able to stay lean while growing....BUT, as far as strength gains, not as much as i had anticipated...

I go off for a long stretch at a time a couple times per yr, my strength always remains, but i drop about 15-20 lbs each time ...Not just water unfortunately..It comes back within weeks..
So it all depends upon your goals man...STAY TRUE TO YOU!!

[Hosehead]

Thanks man, not interested though.

Good for you. You'll save a shitload of money anyhow !

[actualnatural]

People allready think Im too big as is, so no point. Can't wait for my clean bulk program and then the contest prep. Should be I good pic.

[actualnatural]

If were to compete would I get my a** handed to me or do the judges consider that your natural?

[massabsamurai]

if you bring the conditioning, than you will do alright. With just size and poor conditioning, hell yes!

[cog]

Only Place the judges consider natty is a natty contest.

[ironwill]

If were to compete would I get my a** handed to me or do the judges consider that your natural?

Honesty??? You would get your ass handed to you, you are a good beginner, but we still cannot see legs, back etc...After you drop fat and water au natural, you will be a wee fellow...
Keep building some beef..

BTW, who thinks you are too big??
Do you live in china??lol

[actualnatural]

I live in the northern alberta its all crack head oil patch workers up here. I would never compete anyways I know every one is on there so what would be the point. Ive just been told by some people who have friends that compete and claim that there life long natural and hold there own. Obviously b.s

[countrychic]

I live in the northern alberta its all crack head oil patch workers up here. I would never compete anyways I know every one is on there so what would be the point. Ive just been told by some people who have friends that compete and claim that there life long natural and hold there own. Obviously b.s

The point would be........ going through the process, doing the HARD WORK that is required, knowing you did your personal best, and got up on that stage. Who cares who is on and who isn't!!! If you give it your all, it is an accomplishment that a person feels very proud of!! There is different federations for different purposes.

Good luck with your goals but remember people do things for different reasons, its not about how big you are, what juice your on, but setting a goal and sticking to it!

[ironwill]

I live in the northern alberta its all crack head oil patch workers up here. I would never compete anyways I know every one is on there so what would be the point. Ive just been told by some people who have friends that compete and claim that there life long natural and hold there own. Obviously b.s

Lots of folks lie, say they are not on, for legal reasons, just to lie and make someone think they are big, but could be bigger if they used. Lie for the sake of lieing? Who knows all the reasons..All i know is if you lie, you will be found out..
I personally get tired of people lieing, being insecure with the whole thing....It stinks..

But as far as competing goes...Keep eating, growing, then see what you can do..We are all big fish in our little ponds, jump in the ocean, outside of your pond, it is a humbling experience...It will change your entire perception of who you are as far as a bber, and if you should lie, or not lie about being on hormones......
It is a small world in this bb world we live in, we know who dabbles and who doesnt, for the most part....Or we know someone that knows someone, that absolutely knows one has dabbled, then lies about it..looks silly really.

[Hosehead]

If were to compete would I get my a** handed to me or do the judges consider that your natural?

9/10 times you will get blown off stage BUT I do know a couple of guys who juiced like crazy and only weighed in at 150lbs too. A good natty would have beaten them. Keep progressing and anything is possible.

[ironwill]

annnnd gone...

[actualnatural]

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[cog]

Your back looks decent for 177 lbs.What kind of numbers are you using in the squat?

[actualnatural]

Im trying to get my probiotics\metabalism back so this is after a 7 day yogurt and pasta bender. Im at about 185lbs here. Im squating 365lbs to parallel.

[actualnatural]

Im never using isolate again.

[cog]

Not bad.I wasn't aware of isolate causing people any problems.

[tex]

Not bad.I wasn't aware of isolate causing people any problems. x2

[actualnatural]

I use water and not milk with my isolate so from the lack of dairy in my diet I was not getting the good bugs my stomach needs. The reason was so that I keep my macros/calories in order. I might try using isolate again next cut but Ill be taking a probiotic supplement like allign.

[actualnatural]

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heres what I cut down to. looking pretty dry

[actualnatural]

Kind of look like a skeleton. haha

[cog]

Some of the guys here have it down to a science but it's still tricky.

[actualnatural]

theres not a doubt in my mind that next cut Ill be way leaner and a bit bigger. This was the first time Ive every followed a meal plan. Im doing a bulk right now for 5 months to get my metablism back. 8 months from now I should have an impressive pic for an "actual natural"

[cog]

That would be good.I hate it when an 18 yr old is using for some bs reason.Let them see it's possible to look good natty.

[actualnatural]

IMO most people would not want to get any bigger than what I have a acheived with out any form of steroids. I think that most people would not even touch steroids if they could see what could be done with out the head **** that comes with steroids.

[actualnatural]

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[TT Eric]

Not everyone has the same genetic, do not take for granted that everyone can achieve the same result as you with the same effort. Some I know have train a sh!tload of work and do not get half the results of some other I know that have train mildly.

Not saying that people should use gear, but just point you out, that it's not equal effort = equal result.

Eric

[actualnatural]

The thing is that I was thrown in competitive swimming when I was 6 years old and swam in provincials almost every year since then till i was 12. I also played A hockey all the way through minor hockey. The first time I seriously started training with weights in grade 10 and I absoultly blew up. Every single person in my high school asked if I was a juicer. Shortly after that everyone else started cycling to keep up. It all had to do with starting swimming from such a young age and always being active. When I have a kid Im throwing em' right into competiative swimming so they have the same advantage as me. My genetics are not the greatest either I was THE scroniest person there was. all of my ribs were sowing till I was in grade 10 when a McDonalds came to my town :)

[scottlove]

IMO most people would not want to get any bigger than what I have a acheived with out any form of steroids. I think that most people would not even touch steroids if they could see what could be done with out the head **** that comes with steroids.I think you have one of those funhouse mirrors that makes you look twice as big as you really are.

[chordz]

IMO most people would not want to get any bigger than what I have a acheived with out any form of steroids. I think that most people would not even touch steroids if they could see what could be done with out the head **** that comes with steroids.

I say you are on a long running, heavy test/tren dosage, no way you could be that big completely natty!

[Hosehead]

I say you are on a long running, heavy test/tren dosage, no way you could be that big completely natty!

I hope your joking. Dude looks pretty good for a natty but I've seen much bigger natties over the years and have trained with a few who were life long drug free that make him look average. Heavy tren and test cycles ? Beasts in most cases. Dude hasdone his homework and deserves some credit.

[InkedSailor]

i agree give the dude some credit, but if all im hearing is like he is some genetic monster. Great he can think that in his own little world but the fact of reality is hes barely over average. Keep crushing it bud but lay off the juice talk, cause trust me u dont look like uve even dabbled.

[natenator]

IMO most people would not want to get any bigger than what I have a acheived with out any form of steroids. I think that most people would not even touch steroids if they could see what could be done with out the head **** that comes with steroids.

and you natties wonder why people in the bodybuilding world can't stand you. The arrogance and belief that your shit doesn't stink is mind numbing.

be proud of your accomplishments but lay off the scathing contempt and belittlement of those who do happen to use AAS. It only makes you look petty, jealous, and most of all: a retard.

[ironwill]

and you natties wonder why people in the bodybuilding world can't stand you. The arrogance and belief that your shit doesn't stink is mind numbing.

be proud of your accomplishments but lay off the scathing contempt and belittlement of those who do happen to use AAS. It only makes you look petty, jealous, and most of all: a retard.

Also, one should be certain of their audience before saying they have NEVER touched steroids...Some of us are from alberta, and some of us know lots of folks in the pipeline industry...Its a small world..
Au naturel, are you certain you have never dabbled..What if one could say they could bring a guy online well known in the community, that knows different??
What would you think??
Just curious, as i have recvd a couple of PMs here that say different????
I guess i could just ask them to post up..
I dont have any proof, nor do i care, but your shitty attitude is making me really want too....
Maybe they will just chime in here....

[ironwill]

I hope your joking. Dude looks pretty good for a natty but I've seen much bigger natties over the years and have trained with a few who were life long drug free that make him look average. Heavy tren and test cycles ? Beasts in most cases. Dude hasdone his homework and deserves some credit.Maybe some fellas know different hosehead, and they are getting sick of this runts shennanigans....

[scottlove]

The thing is that I was thrown in competitive swimming when I was 6 years old and swam in provincials almost every year since then till i was 12. I also played A hockey all the way through minor hockey. The first time I seriously started training with weights in grade 10 and I absoultly blew up. Every single person in my high school asked if I was a juicer. Shortly after that everyone else started cycling to keep up. It all had to do with starting swimming from such a young age and always being active. When I have a kid Im throwing em' right into competiative swimming so they have the same advantage as me. My genetics are not the greatest either I was THE scroniest person there was. all of my ribs were sowing till I was in grade 10 when a McDonalds came to my town :)
Buddy, I learned way back when I was still hitting the dating scene, NOTHING is more boring than listening to someone go on and on about themselves (especially when most it is bragging or bullshit).

[actualnatural]

Also, one should be certain of their audience before saying they have NEVER touched steroids...Some of us are from alberta, and some of us know lots of folks in the pipeline industry...Its a small world..
Au naturel, are you certain you have never dabbled..What if one could say they could bring a guy online well known in the community, that knows different??
What would you think??
Just curious, as i have recvd a couple of PMs here that say different????
I guess i could just ask them to post up..
I dont have any proof, nor do i care, but your shitty attitude is making me really want too....
Maybe they will just chime in here....

WHO HAVE GOT GOT. BRING HIM THE F*CK ON! Im sure you know many crackheads in the pipeline that are familiar with my family because my dad happens to be the mayor of Ft. McMurray Jr . HATERS GONNA HATE

And also saying that what Ive made is not a big acomplisment is complete bs. LOOK at the size of my joints. I know all about the growth hormon beef your uneducated familys eat. My dads smart enough to not make his son eat animal growth hormon. So when you say Im complairble to the farm kid thats bigger than me and says hes never touched AAS that is true. That is because growth hiormon is not an androgen but that farm kid will grow up having huge joints which is a HUGE fail in bodybuilding. If you dont admire how much muscle I have and how small my joints are YOU ARE A ROOKIE

[actualnatural]

Maybe some fellas know different hosehead, and they are getting sick of this runts shennanigans....

BTW your asthetics are shit. should have stayed natural a little longer before you started cycling. time to start doing curls empty sleeves

[TT Eric]

So basically you registered here so we can worship you and all feel miserable ?

Eric

[actualnatural]

Well, Basically you all had the time of your life with enhancements. I felt like a litte shit my whole life but now after 16 years of training SUCK IT BITCHES LMFAO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

[ironwill]

BTW your asthetics are shit. should have stayed natural a little longer before you started cycling. time to start doing curls empty sleeves

lololol...roid rager!!:lick

[ironwill]

well at least you didnt eat those hormoned up beef patties from mcdonalds that gave you your supreme size and amazing cuts.....lolol
Because the MAYOR of ft. mac wouldnt let you....lolol...you are the weirdest lil fella we had on here in a long while, please do not go away...

[actualnatural]

Dont forget your viagra. Thats the great thing about being natural when I have kids they will actually look like me as doing androgens changes your DNA and your kid will look nothing like you LOL plus if he wondered who is father was after a few years of wondering why he looks nothing like him. there comes the DNA test guess what YOU ARE NOT THE FATHER. NATURAL FTW

[actualnatural]

Do me a favor and do a 2 hour run once a day at 10mph on the tredmill everyday. Id like to see how your huge heart ventricles do while pushing that blood through a tiny little heart artery. :(.. laugh it up

[Hosehead]

Dont forget your viagra. Thats the great thing about being natural when I have kids they will actually look like me as doing androgens changes your DNA and your kid will look nothing like you LOL plus if he wondered who is father was after a few years of wondering why he looks nothing like him. there comes the DNA test guess what YOU ARE NOT THE FATHER. NATURAL FTW


Can you cite any studies that allude to these so called changes in DNA ? My wife and I just finished meeting with a genetic expert because we are having our first child. I explained in detail my AAS use and rec drug use (which was quite extensive at one point) and she said there is absolutely nothing I could have done to my body that will affect my child. It's what my wife has done , which is essentially nothing. My kid should look like me because I'm ****ing gorgeous.

[phatty]

you can not change your DNA thats the dumbest ****ing thing i've ever heard. Changes in what genes are expressed can happen because of all sorts of outside influences

[countrychic]

Dont forget your viagra. Thats the great thing about being natural when I have kids they will actually look like me as doing androgens changes your DNA and your kid will look nothing like you LOL plus if he wondered who is father was after a few years of wondering why he looks nothing like him. there comes the DNA test guess what YOU ARE NOT THE FATHER. NATURAL FTW

Don't worry he has no problems in that department!! lol

This is a funny thread!

[actualnatural]

Well Ive seen lots of juice babys that mostly take after their mother. Ive actually seen that on discovery channel one day that your DNA is changed during that cycle. The kid will look like you before you changed your DNA. So it will look more like your wife and a bit like you before you cycled. Thankfully for my generation the 80's when steroids where popular all the homely juicers would get hot wifes and the woman would have the dominant gene. WOOHOO thanks arnie!!!

[natenator]

Can one of you guys in Alberta make the drive to fort Mac and beat the piss out of this scrawny fuctard?

What a ****ing loser piece of sh!t

[natenator]

Well Ive seen lots of juice babys that mostly take after their mother. Ive actually seen that on discovery channel one day that your DNA is changed during that cycle. The kid will look like you before you changed your DNA. So it will look more like your wife and a bit like you before you cycled. Thankfully for my generation the 80's when steroids where popular all the homely juicers would get hot wifes and the woman would have the dominant gene. WOOHOO thanks arnie!!!

Do yourself a favour and take an introductory level genetics course because your ignorance is showing.

[actualnatural]

"You lack discipline!"- Arnold

[faller]

LOL! Haven't had this many laughs reading a thread in a looong time! Keep em coming :)

[Talo]

Can one of you guys in Alberta make the drive to fort Mac and beat the piss out of this scrawny fuctard?

What a ****ing loser piece of sh!t

Ha-Ha - anything for money, but Fort Mac Jr is Cold Lake, no ? THen his location says Peace River so i'm sure he is either on the rigs or pipeline.

Hopefully he comes to WHITECOURT and uses my gym if he does he can call me and we will give him a good workout.

[TT Eric]

Well, Basically you all had the time of your life with enhancements. I felt like a litte shit my whole life but now after 16 years of training SUCK IT BITCHES LMFAO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

FYI I'm 100% natty. I even competed in non-natty competition.

I was giving you honest props for your work as I can appreciate natural trainee. You might have very good gene and physical genetic, but you clearly lack the qualities that would make you respectable. Your natural gene for sociability clearly are deficient. Attacking personally IW on his physique ? Empty sleeve ? Really ? To each his choice, you have to show respect to receive some.

16 years of training ? You sure talk and act like a 16 y/o that is in love with himself.

Log off and grow up.

Eric

[olddawg]

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Well Ive seen lots of juice babys that mostly take after their mother. Ive actually seen that on discovery channel one day that your DNA is changed during that cycle. The kid will look like you before you changed your DNA. So it will look more like your wife and a bit like you before you cycled. Thankfully for my generation the 80's when steroids where popular all the homely juicers would get hot wifes and the woman would have the dominant gene. WOOHOO thanks arnie!!!

[Hosehead]

Well Ive seen lots of juice babys that mostly take after their mother. Ive actually seen that on discovery channel one day that your DNA is changed during that cycle. The kid will look like you before you changed your DNA. So it will look more like your wife and a bit like you before you cycled. Thankfully for my generation the 80's when steroids where popular all the homely juicers would get hot wifes and the woman would have the dominant gene. WOOHOO thanks arnie!!!

I will double check with that genetic physician person tomorrow as we have a follow up appointment with her. Now I don't know if she watches the Discovery Channel or not but 'DR' did precede the surname on her lab coat. She also had some real authentic looking framed accreditations on her office wall. I'll check and see if she photocopied them. In the meantine you got me a little worried about the whole thing so I consulted my father, who has been a physician for overy forty years. He doesn't watch the Discover Channel too much but he couldn't think of any juice baby studies off hand. He said I should be more concerned with my child looking like a three paper oiler. Fat, dark and greasy. Cuz if there was ever a time when I changed my DNA it was around the age of 16 when I was blasting hash instead of blasting my quads.

[actualnatural]

FYI I'm 100% natty. I even competed in non-natty competition.

I was giving you honest props for your work as I can appreciate natural trainee. You might have very good gene and physical genetic, but you clearly lack the qualities that would make you respectable. Your natural gene for sociability clearly are deficient. Attacking personally IW on his physique ? Empty sleeve ? Really ? To each his choice, you have to show respect to receive some.

16 years of training ? You sure talk and act like a 16 y/o that is in love with himself.

Log off and grow up.

Eric

Your a life long natural? Let me ask you one thing do you eat organic beef???

[TT Eric]

Yes organic grass-fed beef, organic chicken, wild fish, organic vegetables and fruits, organic grass fed raw milk/dairies.

Eric

[scottlove]

Your a life long natural? Let me ask you one thing do you eat organic beef??? Oh oh.....I feel a punch line coming!

[actualnatural]

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*cough* organic

[TT Eric]

You thought you could catch me in a corner but you didn't, so you post stupid things, you are just digging your own hole deeper.

I agree with Nate on this one.

I'm out of here, there is no point trying to reason with someone like you.

Try facebook for fans.

Eric

[scottlove]

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*cough* organic I wanna get that animals' hamstring workout

[olddawg]

that cow has had it's dna changed lmao

[actualnatural]

insulin, growth hormon and test. does not change your DNA but AAS does you dumb s*it

[countrychic]

wow its been a long time since we have had such a disrespectful member around here, what happened to the "banned" button!

[cog]

You've been living in a small world actual natural.Those crackheads are rubbing off on you.Anybody remember that guy from Florida in the fur coat claiming he was all natty?

[olddawg]

You've been living in a small world actual natural.Those crackheads are rubbing off on you.Anybody remember that guy from Florida in the fur coat claiming he was all natty?
lmao, sounds like I missed something

[actualnatural]

Im just not getting the credit I diserve for my microscopic joints. When people say there all natural that generally means that they're brain dead poor people who cant afford human growth hormon and eat animal growth hormon through the juiced up cow. Thus giving them an aquard bone structure and yet again another poor person fails at life.LoL Ive seen lots of farm kids around here and they generally have huge joints and tend to get alot wider than taller. In the patch Ive seen lots of guys who are late 30s to 40s with huge growth hormon joints who generaly end up having there wives get taken home by some young bucks at the bar on the weekend. Myself have been cut from the growth hormon club. but women are certainly starting to look at me different now. I DONT GET IT. :happy

[Talo]

wow its been a long time since we have had such a disrespectful member around here, what happened to the "banned" button!

Dont ban , it's always good to have someone like this as it brings the other members closer :)

And that's a Genetically modified cow not just injected with GH or Test or any other hormone.

[Hosehead]

insulin, growth hormon and test. does not change your DNA but AAS does you dumb s*it

Could you please cite these studies ? After the doctorS (there were two of them - one a genetics expert and the other a pediatrician) stopped laughing today when I relayed the juice baby theory they became interested in the Discovery Channel thing. What year was the episode ? It may be the only way for them to potentially catch up on what they've evidently missed in their university training.

[cog]

Im just not getting the credit I diserve for my microscopic joints. When people say there all natural that generally means that they're brain dead poor people who cant afford human growth hormon and eat animal growth hormon through the juiced up cow. Thus giving them an aquard bone structure and yet again another poor person fails at life.LoL Ive seen lots of farm kids around here and they generally have huge joints and tend to get alot wider than taller. In the patch Ive seen lots of guys who are late 30s to 40s with huge growth hormon joints who generaly end up having there wives get taken home by some young bucks at the bar on the weekend. Myself have been cut from the growth hormon club. but women are certainly starting to look at me different now. I DONT GET IT. :happy

Ok,it is harder to support heavy loads with say small knee joints,but a smaller lighter frame is easier to make visible changes.If you walked into Girondas gym 50 years ago he would have said SFW.I recommend more research.

[cog]

lmao, sounds like I missed something

Guy was about 5'9 212 lbs fairly low bodyfat,claiming he was gods gift.Had a private page/ad link,head back,opening a fur coat to reveal a tanned bod with briefs.Ho.

[Hosehead]

Im just not getting the credit I diserve for my microscopic joints. When people say there all natural that generally means that they're brain dead poor people who cant afford human growth hormon and eat animal growth hormon through the juiced up cow. Thus giving them an aquard bone structure and yet again another poor person fails at life.LoL Ive seen lots of farm kids around here and they generally have huge joints and tend to get alot wider than taller. In the patch Ive seen lots of guys who are late 30s to 40s with huge growth hormon joints who generaly end up having there wives get taken home by some young bucks at the bar on the weekend. Myself have been cut from the growth hormon club. but women are certainly starting to look at me different now. I DONT GET IT. :happy

IMO joint size has little to do with overall appearance or success in bodybuilding. Insertion points and the length or fullness of muscle bellies is much more important. When you look at pros they almost always have superior insertion points and nice full muscle bellies. There aren't many who didn't (Frank Zane is the exception for Mr O winners but then again I don't think he deserved to win any of his three titles). There have been many guys with small joints who have done well in the amateur and pro ranks (Flex Wheeler , Arnold etc ) and I've trained with friends with small joints who managed to get great results with AND without AAS. I don't know why you are seeking compliments beyond what you've already recieved. Isn't it enough to simply just progress than to have some strangers kiss your ass ?

[actualnatural]

Just look at a before and after picture of a juicer its almost tough to tell its the same person. Put the before picture up of them up beside the kid when hes a little older and they look the same but not the current. If you did not make your baby on the androgen cycle then your fine because thats who you are till you juice again. Im waiting to get my fountaine of youth from the doctor with 200I/U TRT when Im 45 then complain that I cant sleep and theres my 1/U per day of HGH also complain about sore nips and get an armitix or whatever they're called. 50$ pure doctor stack for life. That microscopic TRT would do nothing for you dumbass's that wasted your fountaine of youth at 20.LoL Ill be still banging till Im 60 something. I did my research on bodybuilding before jumping into the vicious downward cycling world of cycling. NATURAL FTMFW

[actualnatural]

Ahh, I know its just motivating. Why would I even go to the gym for health?? not for me Ive allready ****ed my BMI naturally which is a laugh. So if Im doing something counterproductive to health like everyone here than I think Im in the same boat. My body will only pay of for me when Im older because i will have dense bones and more muscle mass to keep me independant longer than all you juicers taking cortisol shots in your joints. Every 12 months I take 6 months off for joint recovery.

[olddawg]

Every 12 months I take 6 months off for joint recovery.
I think half a year otta do it for joint recovery

[cog]

Just look at a before and after picture of a juicer its almost tough to tell its the same person. Put the before picture up of them up beside the kid when hes a little older and they look the same but not the current. If you did not make your baby on the androgen cycle then your fine because thats who you are till you juice again. Im waiting to get my fountaine of youth from the doctor with 200I/U TRT when Im 45 then complain that I cant sleep and theres my 1/U per day of HGH also complain about sore nips and get an armitix or whatever they're called. 50$ pure doctor stack for life. That microscopic TRT would do nothing for you dumbass's that wasted your fountaine of youth at 20.LoL Ill be still banging till Im 60 something. I did my research on bodybuilding before jumping into the vicious downward cycling world of cycling. NATURAL FTMFW

Like I said,more research.When you turn 45 you might feel differently about things.

[faller]

And that's a Genetically modified cow not just injected with GH or Test or any other hormone.

They're called Belgian Blue and what they have is a natural mutation in the myostatin gene which codes for the protein. There was a guy at Shawnigan lake that had dogs just like that, i'm sure most here have seen those pics of these Jacked dogs.

[faller]

I think half a year otta do it for joint recovery

And just to be on the safe side i take the other half off as well.

[Talo]

Maybe in your world it matters if your clean or not and that's good, but on here we don't give a ****. The proof in what you can accomplish will come with your actions in the gym and in the kitchen :)


So if this is going to be a log about your workouts and competions then post away, but if it's just going to be about BS then please don't.

[countrychic]

Dont ban , it's always good to have someone like this as it brings the other members closer :)

And that's a Genetically modified cow not just injected with GH or Test or any other hormone.

Ya your probably right, he has A LOT to learn, this is the place to learn :)

[scottlove]

Im just not getting the credit I diserve for my microscopic joints. When people say there all natural that generally means that they're brain dead poor people who cant afford human growth hormon and eat animal growth hormon through the juiced up cow. Thus giving them an aquard bone structure and yet again another poor person fails at life.LoL Ive seen lots of farm kids around here and they generally have huge joints and tend to get alot wider than taller. In the patch Ive seen lots of guys who are late 30s to 40s with huge growth hormon joints who generaly end up having there wives get taken home by some young bucks at the bar on the weekend. Myself have been cut from the growth hormon club. but women are certainly starting to look at me different now. I DONT GET IT. :happyI wouldn't be telling too many people about my microscopic joint!!

[ironwill]

Do me a favor and do a 2 hour run once a day at 10mph on the tredmill everyday. Id like to see how your huge heart ventricles do while pushing that blood through a tiny little heart artery. :(.. laugh it up
My heart us great. We have this technology called ekg and ecg here. And ultrasound. All excellent.
What I would do is go home at lunch when you see your momma for snacks and slap her. She shouldn't have drank or did crack while you were forming inside her. It Really shows in your logic. Spelling and in general life.
I feel Sorry for you Lil fella. Do you have circus mirrors in your basement bedroom in your parents house?

[actualnatural]

My dads hourly rate is $400.00. Ive been living in a half milllion dollar home since I was 25 and support myself through a buisiness that I created. BTW I do know the number to crimestopers Im just assuming your a JUICE de34l3r from how big you are. maybe one of my amigos will ask you for some 5h17 one day at the gym. I do my part to take scum of the earth off the street.I love seeing poor people go to jail

[faller]

Ive been living in a half milllion dollar home since I was 25

Isn't that a shack in Fort Mac?

[actualnatural]

Isn't that a shack in Fort Mac?
Im in peace river. Its a brand new 2200sq.ft home thats gone up 200 000$ allready this year. the patch is just starting to boom here where attched to the same oil sand belt as fort mac. so in the next few years I'll beable to rent this place out for 4500-5000$ month to some oil company and put $3500 a month in my pocket. Gotta love buying at the right time. Time is right now man

[countrychic]

My dads hourly rate is $400.00. Ive been living in a half milllion dollar home since I was 25 and support myself through a buisiness that I created. BTW I do know the number to crimestopers Im just assuming your a JUICE de34l3r from how big you are. maybe one of my amigos will ask you for some 5h17 one day at the gym. I do my part to take scum of the earth off the street.I love seeing poor people go to jail

So now your threatening calling crimestoppers........your unreal.....you also relate Anabolics to scum of the earth.......wow

[actualnatural]

222-TIPS Baby

[cog]

Lots of cops use.Crack dealers are much more interesting to them.

[countrychic]

222-TIPS Baby

YAWN!!!

May I ask why your really here? In all honesty..... you come to a bodybuilding board to learn. There is all kinds to make the world go round! You obviously are very narrow minded individual, you should try widening your thinking, gets a person places in life.

[ironwill]

My dads hourly rate is $400.00. Ive been living in a half milllion dollar home since I was 25 and support myself through a buisiness that I created. BTW I do know the number to crimestopers Im just assuming your a JUICE de34l3r from how big you are. maybe one of my amigos will ask you for some 5h17 one day at the gym. I do my part to take scum of the earth off the street.I love seeing poor people go to jail Yeah. A mental midget would put their face out there when a dealer. Giver fella. At least u noted my size finally. Now bow Lil bitch. Rats are scum of the earth. Say hi to Ur folks skinny fella. Lmao. I look forward to tips visiting. Tard. Lol. You are fun. We had a reject like u in grade school. He was fun also. Giggity. Giggity.

[ironwill]

We are neighbours. Fun. Fun fun.

[Talo]

Im in peace river. Its a brand new 2200sq.ft home thats gone up 200 000$ allready this year. the patch is just starting to boom here where attched to the same oil sand belt as fort mac. so in the next few years I'll beable to rent this place out for 4500-5000$ month to some oil company and put $3500 a month in my pocket. Gotta love buying at the right time. Time is right now man

Peace River is a shit hole

[ironwill]

YAWN!!p!

May I ask why your really here? In all honesty..... you come to a bodybuilding board to learn. There is all kinds to make the world go round! You obviously are very narrow minded individual, you should try widening your thinking, gets a person places in life. cool Ur arms are way bigger than his. Lolol. Ignore the whiner. I'll be the loser arguing back. It's my fun time. Lol. Sorry to anyone else offended. But u know I'm a Dick by now. Enter at your own risk.

[ironwill]

Peace River is a shit holelol. This kid dreams while awake. Awesome.

[actualnatural]

Yeah. A mental midget would put their face out there when a dealer. Giver fella. At least u noted my size finally. Now bow Lil bitch. Rats are scum of the earth. Say hi to Ur folks skinny fella. Lmao. I look forward to tips visiting. Tard. Lol. You are fun. We had a reject like u in grade school. He was fun also. Giggity. Giggity.

so dumb.

[actualnatural]

Peace River is a shit hole
In the winter I agree. But in summer its very beautiful here

[natenator]

You know, if you stop replying to this retard he'll stop posting :)

[ironwill]

I wish I could Nate.
You already know it is my weakness. It is my entertainment. I HAVE to be professional all day. These guys are my outlet. Au natural and other imposters that like this stuff....Plus it has almost 5000 views. This kid is epic already. Good times. It's fun too see how far down the hole he will go. Plus I take a shot of whiskey for each spelling mistake. I'm Fukn hammered in ladysmith bc with this golden thread.

[actualnatural]

Thats the thing about being a natural you cant get away with being a drunk and still look like your an athelte

[actualnatural]

34174

[faller]

I'm Fukn hammered in ladysmith bc with this golden thread.

Hey thats a sweet town :) you're not sitting in the Sporty are yeah?