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leeroy
12-06-2008, 12:52 PM
The federal government tabled legislation on Thursday that will see individuals fined $500 if they are caught downloading copyrighted files.

Industry Minister Jim Prentice tabled the proposed amendments to the Copyright Act in the House of Commons on Thursday.

The proposed amendments include:

new exceptions that will allow Canadian consumers to legally record television shows for later viewing and copy legally acquired music onto other devices, such as iPods or cellphones;
new exceptions for some educational and research purposes;
new rights and protections for those who create content;
provisions to address the liability of Internet service providers and the role they should play in curbing copyright-infringing activities on their networks.
The bill was first put on the Commons order paper last December but has been in limbo for the past six months.

David Fewer, staff counsel at the Canadian Internet Policy and Public Interest Clinic, said the amendments are similar to legislation in the United States.

"This legislation paves the road for the kind of file-sharing lawsuits that we've seen in the United States," Fewer told CTV's Canada AM on Thursday.

"Canadian consumers should be concerned that we're going to see those kinds of consumer-targeted lawsuits appearing in Canada and I think that can only be characterized as a bad thing."

Fewer said the new amendments won't do anything to change the problems associated with file-sharing.

"I don't see these laws having any effect on creators," he said. "We're not going to see any artists getting paid one penny more under this law.

Fewer said there have been proposals from the Songwriters Association of Canada and the Canadian Music Creators Coalition for an alternative "Made in Canada" approach to the problems.

"It's just so frustrating that our politicians aren't even debating these approaches," he said.

Canada's current copyright laws were created long before personal computers and iPods became so popular and mainstream.

Currently, the copyright law, which was originally intended to catch commercial cheaters, carries a maximum fine of $20,000 for infringements.

leeroy
12-06-2008, 12:53 PM
If this bill passes, make sure to repay the Tories the favor and NEVER vote for them again.

piller01
12-06-2008, 01:54 PM
this is crap fawking politics...

leeroy
12-06-2008, 01:57 PM
My opinion is if you sell copyrighted material, the gov't can rape you on fines. If you use it for personal use (i.e. filesharing like torrents) then HANDS OFF.

Gettin'r'round
12-06-2008, 03:04 PM
this is crap fawking politics...

yup.

my kid loves the DS roms

BrownDevil
12-06-2008, 03:13 PM
I've been hearing that this bill will also govern the legalities of unlocking cell phones. Meaning that it will become illegal to debrand and take the sim locks off.

Big Brother much?

leeroy
12-06-2008, 03:25 PM
**** em then. Order your cell phones from out of the country as they sell them unlocked from there.

massmachine
12-06-2008, 03:43 PM
If I get caught for this, I'll make sure to wipe my stack of $500 in dog shit before I send off to our lovely govt.

Big D
12-06-2008, 04:00 PM
this is getting stupid ,, someone needs to get shot

Freebsd1977
12-06-2008, 05:25 PM
Don't we already pay a piracy tax on all cd and dvd sales? I bought some dvd-r stacks and there was a $2 charge for piracy reasons, give me a break.

IronRobi
12-06-2008, 05:59 PM
wow.... i will be so screwed if this passes! lol

shithead
12-06-2008, 06:06 PM
If I get caught for this, I'll make sure to wipe my stack of $500 in dog shit before I send off to our lovely govt.

hahaha, thats a great idea.

shithead
12-06-2008, 06:13 PM
whats $500 though? ****, speeding fines are higher. Thats not much of a risk and how are they going to catch ya? ip addy?

In the USA its like 100Gs.

Mr Ontario
12-06-2008, 07:28 PM
Doubt that it will ever get passed and who going to Police it?

IronRobi
12-06-2008, 09:05 PM
whats $500 though? ****, speeding fines are higher. Thats not much of a risk and how are they going to catch ya? ip addy?

In the USA its like 100Gs.

I'd be willing to bet it's not just $500. It will probably be more like $500 per copyright infringement. Think about the guy with 500+ movies and 15,000mp3s......

dainbramaged
13-06-2008, 09:18 AM
Wonder how much they got paid in direct/indirect kickbacks? Always nice to be in bed with a money-machine like Hollywood.

BrownDevil
13-06-2008, 10:55 AM
If this bill passes, make sure to repay the Tories the favor and NEVER vote for them again.

I don't see any of the other parties opposing it. This more a sign of the times rather than a political event.

AlbertaBeef
13-06-2008, 04:08 PM
It is a sign of the times, they were up here a couple of years ago and hit Rogers Cable for all the names of net subscribers or client base and rights to investigate. Rogers with the backing of the CRTC told them to basically F-off as it was an infringent on the privacy information act. Now post 911 and pre NAFTA it's on.

Xplode
13-06-2008, 08:32 PM
I'd be in the hole TRILLIONS!

Xplode
13-06-2008, 10:02 PM
so does watching movies via a flash player count as downloading?

The Terminator
14-06-2008, 02:36 AM
so does watching movies via a flash player count as downloading?

Technically, yes. The information is passed through your connection and is part of the bandwidth cap on your internet package.

However, the issue here is not downloads as the article says, but instances of uploads. The lesson? Let the suckers upload, I'll take what they have. :)

Now come on Bigger Stronger Faster!

Matt