Peptide to harden-up my gains from my AAS cycle

[CharlieBrawn]

Hey Fellas,

I'm new to this forum (or any forum for that matter) and the reason I joined here is coz you guys (specially Physique and Andre) seem to have pretty active and fairly educated and supportive online community here. Kudos for that! In the world of experimental chemistry it is good to know that one is not alone.

I am new to peptide (have only touched IGF-1 LR3 and MGF 1ec for 4 weeks). Tho not so new to AAS.
So hypothetically speaking: if a subject that has been training for over a decade, is 255lbs, 6ft 1 (approx 20%bf). who may have ran T-400 with Deca (10 weeks), front loaded with Turinabol (6 weeks) is now looking to cut down fat and still gain a few more lean pounds of muscle and is planning to go another 10 weeks on:

Deca (300 mg per week) + Equi (250 mg per week) + masteron (250 mg per week) + Test E (600 mg per week) for AAS and
GHRP-6 (100mcg x 3 ed) + Modified GRF (1-29) (100mcg x3 ed) + IGF -1 lr3 (33mcg ed for 4 weeks on 2 weeks off) + MGF 1ec (100mcg bilaterally) on training days while on IGF.

Will this help the subject to attain the goal of hardening up or should he/she add something else to it such as HGH frag, T3 or anything?

I hope i'm clear and not long winded. Please let me know if i am missing something here.

any help/comment/suggestions/criticisms would be greatly appreciated. After all, all we have to learn from is each other.

thanks, and I am looking forward to your replies!

cheers!

[tex]

you gotta drop the fat before youll get the hardening effect from the masteron.......why **** around with deca and eq and masteron if you could just run tren and test and get better results?? you are basically throwing everything And the kitchen sink at it hoping for awesome results......id say diet + lifting + sleep + test/tren = lean and mean

edit - sorry Prae didnt see this was in your area....

[Praetorian]

First you need to understand that your diet has so much more to do with gaining muscle then aas or other ergogenic aids. Yes aas will add much more muscle then without it but if your diet is lacking no amount of aas will add muscle...it just wont happen. The other issue that you seem to be very unclear on is gaining muscle and losing fat are two separate things. If you want do to something optimally you will need to decide what you really want. Do you want to gain muscle or do you want to maintain muscle and lose maximum fat? Your diet will be completely different depending on which goal you choose.
Now when it comes to aas test should always be a base on any cycle whether you are gaining or dieting. Also aas do not burn fat they only provide a environment that allows maximum fat loss. Fat loss will come from calorie consumption via diet, cardio, and training. Deca and EQ will not make fat loss any better and I would see as a complete waste if money. The masteron will only add cosmetic hardness once your BF levels are at least 7% or below....so using it initially is like throwing your money away...save it for the last 4-5 weeks only...and unless you are competing you dont really need it. IGF-1 LR3 does not do anything for fat loss at all....save it for when you are trying to gain...the same with MGF. You can use GHRP-6 and GRF 1-29 at 100mcg each three times daily on an empty stomach and 20 minutes prior to eating...this will assist with fat loss from the increase in natural GH. Adding HGH Frag will not increase fat loss if you are already running GHRP-6 and GRF 1-29 so dont waste your money.

If you are not competing I would suggest 250mg test Monday and Thursday with the GHRP-6 and GRF 1-29 used three times daily at 100mcg each. You will need to dramatically change your diet...ie drop carb intake and start measuring and weighing macros. T3 is not necessary if you are not competing...its just another hormone you are messing with. If you like add clenbuterol at 20mcg twice daily and increase every two weeks by 20mcg.....once you hit 120mcg leave it there until finished dieting then taper off. Cardio should also be added EOD to start at 20min....just walking is fine.

Next time you do an off season run dont front load orals...that is wasting your mone...start the orals 5 weeks in as the test and deca blood levels are maximized and you will get a much better synergistic effect.

P