Rate/critique my diet?

[newbiebuilder]

Meal 1:
2 scoops whey protein
1 cup oats
1 cup of spinach

Meal 2:
1 cup no fat yogurt
1 ounce nuts (almonds)
1 cup of spinach
1 orange

Meal 3:
7-9 ounces of chicken
1/2 large sweet potato
1 ounce almonds

Meal 4 (Pre workout):
1 apple
1 scoop whey protein
1 glass of creatine

Meal 5:
2 scoops of whey protein
Dextrose (mix 50grams into water)
1 cup of broccoli

Meal 6:
7-9 ounces chicken (extra lean)
1/2 large baked sweet potato
2 grams omega 3 fats (pill)

Meal 7:
2 scoops casein


im looking to put on lean muscle, is this diet any good?

[JonnyO]

Well meals 2,4 and 5 I wouldn't consider as meals. Also it would help to know your stats.

[Skailes]

Well meals 2,4 and 5 I wouldn't consider as meals. Also it would help to know your stats.And this is one area you and I differ Johnny as I live on shakes and only eat one solid per day usually...sometimes I'll get all crazy and have two, but not very often. As whey has a BV much greater than any other protein source I consider it a food, and add a small amount of EFA or natty PB to a shake and you've got a meal. I stil can't figure out for the life of me why whey protein gets such a bad rap....I mean I can see the protein from years ago not being considered anything but crap, but whey is for all intents and purposes as perfect a protein source as you'll ever find.

[JonnyO]

I agree PS and two of my 7 meals are shakes as well but they are 55g whey, 60g carbs and 15g fats. Those there look more like snacks rather than meals. But then again we dont know this guys stats.

[Praetorian]

Meals should be balanced macro wise...they are not. PWO is pro+carbs only. As JO says some meals are NOT meals. 50gpro+15-20g fat + carbs as per energy requirements in each meal.
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[Skailes]

Meals should be balanced macro wise...they are not. PWO is pro+carbs only. As JO says some meals are NOT meals. 50gpro+15-20g fat + carbs as per energy requirements in each meal.
PI totally disagree that you need carbs in a meal as they aren't essential in any way shape or form. IMO as long as you've got protein and quality fats and maybe a little carbs pre-workout it's all you need. I've done the carb thing as it was the way to go back in the day and I felt like crap with anything over 80 grams as my daily intake. Not everyone needs much in the way of carbs. In fact it's my opinion that most people BBs or otherwise eat far to many carbs and this is one of the reasons we have such a huge issue with obesity and type II diabetes and many other maladies. The food pyramid is a load of BS as well put together years ago to satisfy special interest groups that were lobbying government on behalf of farmers......

[newbiebuilder]

thanks for the replies.

my stats are these:

6'1
170lbs
18.1% bf

[TT Eric]

I totally disagree that you need carbs in a meal as they aren't essential in any way shape or form. IMO as long as you've got protein and quality fats and maybe a little carbs pre-workout it's all you need. I've done the carb thing as it was the way to go back in the day and I felt like crap with anything over 80 grams as my daily intake. Not everyone needs much in the way of carbs. In fact it's my opinion that most people BBs or otherwise eat far to many carbs and this is one of the reasons we have such a huge issue with obesity and type II diabetes and many other maladies. The food pyramid is a load of BS as well put together years ago to satisfy special interest groups that were lobbying government on behalf of farmers......

I agree that today's people are eating way too much carbs and this is causing lots of issue, no thanks to the 80's FDA initiative! But for a bber lean enough to be insulin sensitive you really think he should not take advantage of the insulin's growth factor ?

And I don't mean taking 300-500g per day, personally, on off days I go for fruits & vegs carbs only and on training day I go about 200g total on training day breakfast/before training, PWO and the meal after is working to my advantage. Of course, I believe tolerance is individually related and each one should find how much work positively for them.

Eric

[Praetorian]

I totally disagree that you need carbs in a meal as they aren't essential in any way shape or form. IMO as long as you've got protein and quality fats and maybe a little carbs pre-workout it's all you need. I've done the carb thing as it was the way to go back in the day and I felt like crap with anything over 80 grams as my daily intake. Not everyone needs much in the way of carbs. In fact it's my opinion that most people BBs or otherwise eat far to many carbs and this is one of the reasons we have such a huge issue with obesity and type II diabetes and many other maladies. The food pyramid is a load of BS as well put together years ago to satisfy special interest groups that were lobbying government on behalf of farmers......

You must have misunderstood what I was trying to say. I didn't mean you need carbs in every meal...i meant according to energy requirements. If you've seen my many postings you would know I advocate low carbs even on an off season gaining program. My point was meals should have protein + fat in order to build and maintain muscle as well as bodily functions and carbs as needed..ie around training etc..

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[Wildo]

Skailies,

I find your posts very contradictory.
On my previous thread (regarding my diet), you prescribed me at least 200g of carbs.
However, you are advocating on this thread that anything over 80g will make you feel like "Crap". as in I should not eat over 80 as well...
Can you clarify?????

[JonnyO]

He meant himself bro

[Skailes]

Skailies,

I find your posts very contradictory.
On my previous thread (regarding my diet), you prescribed me at least 200g of carbs.
However, you are advocating on this thread that anything over 80g will make you feel like "Crap". as in I should not eat over 80 as well...
Can you clarify?????No you're misunderstanding what I was alluding to which was that high carb intake makes me feel like total crap as I'm naturally hypoglycemic and as such I need high protein and moderate fats to keep my blood sugar stable and then just enough carbs to get me through a workout and for me that can be as high as 80 grams and if dieting very little if any carbs are needed if the other two essential macro's are high enough.

Over the last 20-30 years people have been sold on fats being deadly, protein can be unhealthy and carbs are GREAT and this pretty much has led us to the situation we're currently in as a population....type II diabetes is running rampant, obesety rates are through the roof and the general health of north america is total shit.....which is great for the pharma companies and the fast food industry but is killing the population.

Look at carbs as you would any supplement like creatine or BCAAs etc use carbs to ellicit the response you want from your body, but don't go thinking that carbs are in any way essential to being healthy. So with this in mind use carbs to maintain muscle glycogen and to fuel your workouts but not as a staple in your diet like the average person does. So for you at this point in your training 200 grams per day is fine if you partition the carbs to enhance your training and growth, and make sure you're using lower glycemic carbs for the most part when you add them into your nutrition.

There I hope that better explains things for ya.

[Skailes]

He meant himself broDamn I wish I had read this first it would have saved all the writing I just did......Oh well he deserved an explanation.