which compound(s) would you recommend?

[gmoney]

Hey all,

First off, I tried searching but couldn't really come up with anything that matched my question. This also has nothing to do with bodybuilding but I have found this site to be one of the most reputable for advice on AAS (been researching them for years but still have never used them).

I'll be heading to Thailand in the new year to train full time at a few different muay thai camps around the country, I plan to stay 3-4 months and will be training full time for at least 80% of my trip.

These camps typically involve running 12-16km per day, 2-3 hours of intense bag work, pad work and sparring, lot's of bodyweight excersizes, etc. Likely won't be doing a ton of lifting.

I train muay thai here in canada and also do a fair bit of weight training, running and crossfit. I'm 6'1, 195lbs, 335lb squat, 455lb deadlift, 255lb bench, one arm chin ups, 205lb clean and jerk, etc. Competing in amateur muay thai but looking to fight pro while I'm in Thailand.

I am just doubting my ability to fully recover between workouts when training 6hrs/day 6 days/week in Thailand.

It is very easy and fully legal to get almost any AAS related product in Thailand so I was wondering if there's anything I could look into taking?

I was thinking low dose test prop @ 300mg/wk. I don't want to put on much mass if any. I need to be within cutting range of 185lbs.

Cheers

[Skailes]

Well IMO for what you will want/need AAS for I feel that anavar would be your best bet, as it will allow for the recuperation you're after as well as maintains strength, body weight (won't cause a significant weight gain). It's a common AAS for PLing in that it allows for improved strength/performance without the weight gain found with androgens like test, so IMO this is your best bet for improved performance.

[ironwill]

Well IMO for what you will want/need AAS for I feel that anavar would be your best bet, as it will allow for the recuperation you're after as well as maintains strength, body weight (won't cause a significant weight gain). It's a common AAS for PLing in that it allows for improved strength/performance without the weight gain found with androgens like test, so IMO this is your best bet for improved performance.

Agreed big time, no need for high doses either, by far my favorite oral.....

[#8]

With that workload I wouldnt go under 50mg a day of Var. Var is a solid choice though, my fav drug all around.

[gmoney]

I'm thinking I should be able to find var no problem there, but just in case, is there anything similar? Tbol would work in a similar way, no?

I was hoping to go injection so I could run it longer without liver issues. I doubt I'd gain much mass even on something like test prop. Figured I could keep the weight under control with the insane training volume and restricting my diet a little.

[cog]

TBol is fine at lower doses,which is all you should really consider with orals.

[Skailes]

I'm thinking I should be able to find var no problem there, but just in case, is there anything similar? Tbol would work in a similar way, no?

I was hoping to go injection so I could run it longer without liver issues. I doubt I'd gain much mass even on something like test prop. Figured I could keep the weight under control with the insane training volume and restricting my diet a little.var is as old as dirt and should be available but it may be under a different brand name.

[ironwill]

I also really like winstrol, i don't get the negative sides some do, sore joints etc., i know a lot of guys hate it, but if not affected negatively with it, it is another option....Readily available...

[Skailes]

I also really like winstrol, i don't get the negative sides some do, sore joints etc., i know a lot of guys hate it, but if not affected negatively with it, it is another option....Readily available...I like winny the last 6 weeks before a show to help give my physique a harder/denser look but otherwise ya my joints get pretty sore from it.

[wmk]

I'm thinking I should be able to find var no problem there, but just in case, is there anything similar? Tbol would work in a similar way, no?

I was hoping to go injection so I could run it longer without liver issues. I doubt I'd gain much mass even on something like test prop. Figured I could keep the weight under control with the insane training volume and restricting my diet a little.

T-bol gave me the largest boils of anything that I have ever run. They left holes in my legs lol. I would choose var over T-bol as it has less sides. I still stay away from orals now... injections only.

[GSNALTA]

If you can get Var and you can afford it...then go for it.
I do second the Tbol..ive had good results with it..nice strength and no bloat.

[gmoney]

Thanks for the responses guys. Scary shit about the boils on TBol, first I've heard of that.

what about throwing some EQ in with this? Supposedly good for blood cell count, recovery, etc.

Say 300mg test prop/200mg EQ? run for 10-12 wks?

or anavar 60mg ED/200mg EQ? run the var for 8wks and the eq for 10-12?

Like I said the main concern is recovery and minimal weight gain. If I gained a few lbs it would be alright though.

[cog]

Your quickest response would be prop+ oral .

[tex]

i wouldnt use eq at that dose.....better of with just a small dose of test. I'm gonna recommend something that is gonna have everyone on my ass but id do a small dose of test and an even smaller dose of tren. I know everyone says it hurts your cardio but it has never had that effect on me. At the moment I am running 1 ml of tnt a week (250 test e and 150 tren e) and I can say that it has not affected my cardio at all. I am doing boxing related training ( lots of bag work and skipping, circuits of high rep exercises). Ive gone as high as 420mg test susp and 350mg tren a a week while training like this and having my cardio capacity Increase......the increased aggression and strength is awesome for fighting!!!!!!!! this is my Personal experience and not all users are affected the same.......................

[ironwill]

Test prop and var will be your best bet....Var at 50 mgs is plenty if from a good source, and test prop you want 300 mgs per week....I dont often run my test above 300 mg/wk, var,, the most ive taken has been 40 mg per day.
With a good diet, and some knowledge in trng, you will do well with this, and not hard on the health...

I sit at 250-260 lean on these doseages and don't fluctuate up/down whether on/off cycle to much...
Food and timing of the food is most critical in my experience, BUT, all together, knowledge of trng, and diet, along with a responsible hormone program, they are very synergistic together, and the results are fun...
But, you gotta work at it.....a lot...

[spiderman7]

"The effects of test on V02 max/endurance" search for this post. I believe there is a post on the first page which is a cut and paste from another forum, a endurance forum. Anavar is not one that is highly recommended in the endurance world. So if you plan on doing lots of endurance work it may hinder your performance.

[cog]

TBol was the all round choice of the East Germans iirc.

[Praetorian]

Anavar or Turinabol would be your clearest choices...Turinabol as Cog says was the defacto standard for most of the eastern bloc countries in the 80-90's...it is more androgenic then anavar and thus will improve intensity of training as well as recovery. Anavar is much better suited as Skailles said to strength gains...it is not very androgenic at all which is why is works well with women and it will probably cost twice as much for a similar cycle to Tbol. Dianabol was the original defacto standard but aromatizes so much that water was always a problem and this lead to many injuries from tight muscles..ie hamstring pulls. If you dont have any issues with other aas such as test etc then tbol wont be a problem.
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[Sandwiches]

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