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bountyhunter
27-03-2012, 10:47 PM
This is the cycle I'm currently running...I am currently at week 3.

125mg test prop (week 1-4) EOD
600mg test Enathate (week 1-10) split into 2 doses a week
600mg EQ (week 1-10)split into 2 doses a week
?mg tren acetate ( week 4-12) haven't started yet
anavar 60mg (week 1-12)ED
125mg prop (week 10-12)EOD
Norvotrop hgh 5iu ED whole cycle and post cycle
HCG and nolva (weeks 12-15)

My first question is, how long is it before the EQ kicks in? I've seen a big increase in hunger, pump and I'm more vascular in the last week. A training partner of mine told me i should not be experiencing the effects of Equipoise only 3 weeks in. I have no prior experience with EQ.

My next question is, how much tren acetate is an effective dosage for 8 weeks? Again, I have never used tren.

My last question is, I feel my blood is ridiculously thick. My last cycle last year I ran 800mg test prop weekly, 750mg Sust 250 weekly, and 80mg Anavar daily and I was still able to jog my daily 2k and do my regular Cardio with minimal issues. Now with my current cycle I run just half a click and my calves are jammed up and I have crippling shin splints. I don't know whats causing this, is it the EQ? or maybe the hgh? I have the same issue when trying to do high reps, sometimes I get so pumped by my 3rd set I can't even rep the weight i used to warm up with lol. I literally have to wait and walk around to let the blood flow out between sets. what do you think is causing this? Doesn't seem normal to me.

so far my gains feel solid, and lean, very little water. I put on 12 pounds in 3 weeks, but I did change my diet for bulking.

If you see anything wrong with my cycle feel free to give your advice.

thanks

vanskelig
27-03-2012, 11:12 PM
I have never run EQ until this cycle. I am 7 days in and I've never felt the ravenous hunger that I do now.

bountyhunter
28-03-2012, 12:10 PM
I have never run EQ until this cycle. I am 7 days in and I've never felt the ravenous hunger that I do now.

lol! ok good to know, thanks.

Praetorian
28-03-2012, 11:32 PM
What is your current height, weight, and diet like...seems like overkill and over complicated...and you are running??? why in the world are you doing that? Are you trying to gain muscle or lose it?
Keep it simple test enanthate and EQ with GH is more than enough off season...especially if you are not competing. Too many people put all the emphasis on cycle and very little on training or diet. Your shin splints etc are due to increase blood volume yes but that happens with any aas...more to do with fluid retention from an increase in sodium retention, carbs in your diet, and gh also will cause initial fluid retention. Post cycle you dont need 5iu...2iu is more than enough for PCT assistance. Most of the 12lbs youve gained is water...it takes time to build muscle. If you want to keep in good cardio shape while building muscle stop running and start doing interval sprints or pushing the prowler. I would suggest a better PCT than 4 weeks of hcg and nolva.
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bountyhunter
30-03-2012, 12:38 AM
What is your current height, weight, and diet like...seems like overkill and over complicated...and you are running??? why in the world are you doing that? Are you trying to gain muscle or lose it?
Keep it simple test enanthate and EQ with GH is more than enough off season...especially if you are not competing. Too many people put all the emphasis on cycle and very little on training or diet. Your shin splints etc are due to increase blood volume yes but that happens with any aas...more to do with fluid retention from an increase in sodium retention, carbs in your diet, and gh also will cause initial fluid retention. Post cycle you dont need 5iu...2iu is more than enough for PCT assistance. Most of the 12lbs youve gained is water...it takes time to build muscle. If you want to keep in good cardio shape while building muscle stop running and start doing interval sprints or pushing the prowler. I would suggest a better PCT than 4 weeks of hcg and nolva.
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Well i'm 25, 214lbs, 6"4. Under 10%BF. My diet is high protein high calorie, i keep it pretty clean, low sodium, moderate sugar, moderate but quality carbs, no dairy, no alchohol or drugs. i take all my vitamins, BCA's, omegas, with additional b6 and b12 and D. I am doing this cycle because i had cut from 223lbs down to 195lbs for kickboxing and in the proccess i burned through my muscles from less lifting, high cardio, and strict diet. I have a hard time putting on mass. It's genetic and it took me a long time to get from 180 to 223. I train 5 days a week monday through friday plus kickboxing twice a week. I jog twice a week 2km so my cardio doesn't suffer. Bad Idea? is biking ok?

I thought prop would be a good kick start to my cycle for weeks 1-4 and then taper down with it again at the end. If you think the tren is overkill i could always skip it. I haven't started yet. This upoming week is week 4 and i'm going to be off the prop. So that leaves var EQ and enathate aswell as Hgh. Do i cut the var too? I just read the PCT thread here, i'll add clen and arimadex to my post cycle. Maybe HMC too. My goal is lean mass of course but mostly i'm aiming for quality strength gains.