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knockyouout
28-05-2008, 11:22 PM
I m currently cycling test e, and eq, and my nipples are really sore. I have this stuff called novadex xt in pill form. Just wondering if this stuff will help me out? I have been taking the liquid form for about two weeks and nothing seems to be changing. Im afraid I might get perma bitch tits. Any thoughts?

The Terminator
28-05-2008, 11:53 PM
Use a real anti-estrogen like Nolvadex or Clomid.

Matt

tarnow
28-05-2008, 11:59 PM
Don't use that Novadex garbage. Get some Letro and do it quick.

Freebsd1977
29-05-2008, 12:02 AM
I'm not sure how Indole-3-Carbinol reacts with AAS use but it has worked for me. I'm not on any AAS at the moment but I3C has helped lower the puffiness known as "bitch tits". The poster named Tank told me about it and after a month of daily 400 mg use, I see less swelling. I3C helps metabolise bad estrogen for the good one and this will up your testo levels. Tank did mention another mineral called DIM, which is another great anti-estrogen. I3C converts to DIM and other substances in your body.

GL

knockyouout
29-05-2008, 12:20 AM
thanks guys, i forgot to mention the liquid form i am useing is nolvadex (the real anti-estrogen) but it doesnt seem to workin. I just had these pills in my pantry and thought maybe id try it, as i am willing to try anything right now.

bmorlock
29-05-2008, 12:56 AM
i would use the novadex xt at maximum dose untill u get some a-dex or letro

St
29-05-2008, 01:05 AM
Yes keep taking your liquid nolva's but it doesn't work as good as Arimidex,or letro.

The Terminator
29-05-2008, 01:23 AM
thanks guys, i forgot to mention the liquid form i am useing is nolvadex (the real anti-estrogen) but it doesnt seem to workin. I just had these pills in my pantry and thought maybe id try it, as i am willing to try anything right now.

Is there actually any gyno tissue building up that you can feel? If so, use 80mg Nolva 2 days in a row, and then 20mg/day there after.

If it's just sensitive, then it's normal for some. I haven't gotten that.

Matt

MuSuLPhReAk
29-05-2008, 06:02 AM
Switch up the nolva for something else. Better safe than sorry.

Random Letters
29-05-2008, 10:05 AM
Where did you get your liquid tamoxifen?

I'd up the doseage of your liquid tamoxifen...perhaps it's underdosed, and immediately order some letro and take it until the symptoms subside. IMO it's too harsh to use throughout an entire cycle.

Obviously you are gyno prone so I'd get some exemestane to run throughout the rest of your cycle.

knockyouout
29-05-2008, 11:55 PM
Is there actually any gyno tissue building up that you can feel? If so, use 80mg Nolva 2 days in a row, and then 20mg/day there after.

If it's just sensitive, then it's normal for some. I haven't gotten that.

Matt

yeah there is some tissue building up that i can feel. ill try to up the dose for a couple days and see how it works

knockyouout
30-05-2008, 12:02 AM
Where did you get your liquid tamoxifen?

I'd up the doseage of your liquid tamoxifen...perhaps it's underdosed, and immediately order some letro and take it until the symptoms subside. IMO it's too harsh to use throughout an entire cycle.

Obviously you are gyno prone so I'd get some exemestane to run throughout the rest of your cycle.

Dont know alot about exemestane, but i thought it was pretty similar to
A-dex or letro. Any advantages to exemestane?

The Terminator
30-05-2008, 12:03 AM
yeah there is some tissue building up that i can feel. ill try to up the dose for a couple days and see how it works

Let us know how it works out.

Matt

Random Letters
30-05-2008, 09:03 AM
Dont know alot about exemestane, but i thought it was pretty similar to
A-dex or letro. Any advantages to exemestane?

It's way easier on your joints, lipids, libido and there's no rebound effect. As far as I'm concerned the only downside is that it's more expensive and the doseages are larger. I'd only use letro in emergency situations like the OP is in now, with very apparent gyno symptoms.

I wouldn't run anything that aromatises heavily without having it on hand.

thelittleguy
30-05-2008, 07:52 PM
nova pharm nolvadex is the only nolva i would use. i don't fu%k around with ug gear, when things like bitch tits etc. are involved.

Dk
02-06-2008, 01:00 PM
isnt novadex just a designer supp?

its not gonna do anything until you get a real Serm or AI.

novadex has no relation with nolvadex, all it is is a natural test booster