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styler
28-05-2008, 10:52 PM
hey dudes,
I've posted a few times on here before, and love the site. I mostly just read and take in what everyone here is saying. So for my new cycle i'm thinking

1 Gram Test enanthate per week for 12 weeks and,
100mg of Tren Acetate EOD for 8 weeks

I just want to get some of my size back that i lost, but more importantly i want to get my strength back. I went thru a pretty hard time a couple months ago, and just left the gym for quite a while, i'm back in now, and will probably start this cycle in about a month. Any advice on this would be awesome, or even if you guys have some other cycles you think would work better. this is not my first cycle either, so no worries about a newbie messin it up. My current stats are 5"9, 210lbs, and about 14%bf. I used to be 231lbs, so i would like to get back to, about 225lbs, with 10% bf. Thanks guys, all advice is appreciated

spankmonkey
29-05-2008, 12:50 AM
Tren works well when you are low in bf, imo i would not use tren at this time. maybe dbol to kick your cycle into gear and you can't go wrong with test. 1 gram of test? how many mg per week 1000? is my diet brain reading that right?

St
29-05-2008, 01:08 AM
I'm a big tren fan so i would like this in my cycle,and as for test i would start off at about 500mg a week and see how you do,then after a while your not happy with the results then bump it up a bit at a time.

The Terminator
29-05-2008, 01:21 AM
I'm a big tren fan so i would like this in my cycle,and as for test i would start off at about 500mg a week and see how you do,then after a while your not happy with the results then bump it up a bit at a time.

I would second this. However, I would do something a bit differently if you're wanting a kickstart on the cycle,

Weeks 1-12: Test E 500mg/week
Weeks 1-3: Test P 100mg E3D
Weeks 5-12: Tren Ace 100mg E3D

I actually see no point in using dbol for the first 3 weeks, as it's only going to kick strength up. Why not actually use dbol when it's useful - once the Test has kicked in? I've been reading a lot of stuff by RazorRipped on the MD boards, and he's very bright in this area. Maximize the use of androgens when they're strongest together, instead of weakly apart.

Matt

St
29-05-2008, 01:26 AM
I would second this. However, I would do something a bit differently if you're wanting a kickstart on the cycle,

Weeks 1-12: Test E 500mg/week
Weeks 1-3: Test P 100mg E3D
Weeks 5-12: Tren Ace 100mg E3D

I actually see no point in using dbol for the first 3 weeks, as it's only going to kick strength up. Why not actually use dbol when it's useful - once the Test has kicked in? I've been reading a lot of stuff by RazorRipped on the MD boards, and he's very bright in this area. Maximize the use of androgens when they're strongest together, instead of weakly apart.

Matt


Ya i don't know how many people hate d-bol after they get all these side-effect from it,bad water,gyno,pimples,and once you stop it your gains go just as fast as you start d-bol.I'm a big fan of t-bol no water,and no gyno,or pimples for me and a few bro's i know.

The Terminator
29-05-2008, 01:49 AM
Ya i don't know how many people hate d-bol after they get all these side-effect from it,bad water,gyno,pimples,and once you stop it your gains go just as fast as you start d-bol.I'm a big fan of t-bol no water,and no gyno,or pimples for me and a few bro's i know.

That's what I've read as well, I've yet to add it in though. One day soon, next cycle....

25mg ED will be good times!

Matt

kawikaratekid
30-05-2008, 11:53 AM
I would second this. However, I would do something a bit differently if you're wanting a kickstart on the cycle,

Weeks 1-12: Test E 500mg/week
Weeks 1-3: Test P 100mg E3D
Weeks 5-12: Tren Ace 100mg E3D

I actually see no point in using dbol for the first 3 weeks, as it's only going to kick strength up. Why not actually use dbol when it's useful - once the Test has kicked in? I've been reading a lot of stuff by RazorRipped on the MD boards, and he's very bright in this area. Maximize the use of androgens when they're strongest together, instead of weakly apart.

Matt

From what I understand it's a great addition mid cycle....