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SuperQT
28-12-2011, 05:46 PM
I am wondering those that have them how do you train chest?

I've had mine for a little over 3 years now over the muscle. I never do any flat bench at all any more. I do mostly incline DB or hammer. I will do flys flat or incline as well as cable.

#8
28-12-2011, 06:59 PM
This thread needs pics :P

Just joshing

Im thinking of getting implants myself, my chest is rather lacking

GYMBRAT
28-12-2011, 07:52 PM
I know a number of lady's who Body build and train their chests the same with implants as when they had no implants. Though some may see training their chests in a different manor for different reasons..

69challenger
29-12-2011, 09:22 AM
I've had mine for a couple of years now. They are under the muscle. Was told NOT to train chest HEAVY anymore as building the muscle over the implants would cause the implants to "spread apart". I still train chest, but keep it light and just focus on getting a good pump....so far, so good:)

Talo
29-12-2011, 11:14 AM
So in regards to this what is "better" over or under the muscle ?

My wife has been thinking about getting hers done so besides doing some reading online I don't know too much about it.

69challenger
29-12-2011, 12:19 PM
Talo, as I stated, mine are under the muscle. I actually had intended to get them over (as I was told that with overs, I could still train chest heavy), but the PS said I didn't have enough breast tissue to do it. He said you would see the "outline" of the implants. I really wanted them to appear natural, so ended up with unders. The recovery time was very short (for me) as well.

SuperQT
29-12-2011, 02:40 PM
I went over the muscle as the PS said I had too much muscle on my chest and likely my recovery would be much longer if I went that route. Like 69 said if she wants a natural look under is better. I figured there was no way 600 cc's was going to look natural regardless of placement.

fitnurss
29-12-2011, 04:08 PM
Talo, it depends on what she is looking for. There are advantages/disadvantages of both routes. The pain and recovery time sub-muscular is much greater than that of above the muscle. Personally, I absolutely hate that "ball" look that you often see when fitness competitors with over-the-muscle implants get when really lean. Plus, there's always a higher risk for capsular contracture.
I went a kind of in-between route - sub-fascial...it's not really under the muscle, but more supported and covered than it would be with the traditional "over the muscle" procedure. I had very little pain during my recovery and was back to training heavy around 4 weeks post-op.

To answer OP's question, if you're above the muscle and you feel like you're healed and your surgeon has given you the green llight, I see no reason why you can't be training heavy again 4-6 weeks post op. Just make sure to ease into it!

fitnurss
29-12-2011, 04:09 PM
OP, you went with 600's?!?!?!

GYMBRAT
29-12-2011, 06:37 PM
I've had mine for a couple of years now. They are under the muscle. Was told NOT to train chest HEAVY anymore as building the muscle over the implants would cause the implants to "spread apart". I still train chest, but keep it light and just focus on getting a good pump....so far, so good:)

I asked 3 of my friends today and this is exactly what they told me was the reason :) thx 69c

yet the others swear by training heavy off season still and without issues....to each their own i spose

SuperQT
29-12-2011, 09:01 PM
Talo, it depends on what she is looking for. There are advantages/disadvantages of both routes. The pain and recovery time sub-muscular is much greater than that of above the muscle. Personally, I absolutely hate that "ball" look that you often see when fitness competitors with over-the-muscle implants get when really lean. Plus, there's always a higher risk for capsular contracture.
I went a kind of in-between route - sub-fascial...it's not really under the muscle, but more supported and covered than it would be with the traditional "over the muscle" procedure. I had very little pain during my recovery and was back to training heavy around 4 weeks post-op.

To answer OP's question, if you're above the muscle and you feel like you're healed and your surgeon has given you the green llight, I see no reason why you can't be training heavy again 4-6 weeks post op. Just make sure to ease into it!

I thought that over the muscle implants could shift as well that is the main reason I haven't gone heavy since I got them.

And yes 600cc's before I started competing I was 36D last contest I did before I got my boobs I was an almost A cup. I had a lot of extra skin so it was really easy for the PS to slip the gel implants in he went thru the nipple wasn't sure if he would be able to or not but it worked out. With sub-fascial and under the muscle is it an anchor insesion under the breast fold? If so how is that for healing?

GYMBRAT
29-12-2011, 09:50 PM
shit this sounds painful! Girls are brave no BS about it!

ironwill
30-12-2011, 07:05 PM
CC just got a set, 600 ccs, under the muscle, 10 days post op and she is doing almost 100 percent, just not in the gym for another 3-4 weeks, then slow from there. Pain topped out at day 3, and got better from there, absolutely no bruising, very little swelling, i had to refrain from attacking them because they looked nice so fast, i tend to forget they are new....
...The doc said she has to go lighter now as being under the muscle she could spread them out, and she has a lot of muscle in her pecs already, so in recovery she needs to be extra careful because of this fact, they are very tight right now, but they are dropping into position beautifully...I get to be the massage boy...
Money well spent, she is always confident anyway, now i am scared!!! ;^)

cog
30-12-2011, 07:39 PM
Christmas!

GYMBRAT
31-12-2011, 01:03 PM
new boobs = new man :O well at least it seems like the over all consensus here lol

ironwill
31-12-2011, 01:11 PM
new boobs = new man :O well at least it seems like the over all consensus here lol

Ru drinkin and typing again???? Whachu reading, i dont see any women saying they got new man after boobs.....lol....ya boob!!! ;^)
doesnt make sense gringo!!!

BTW, it really depends on a womens structure as far as size goes.....
We went to a doc that had a camera that will show you pretty much exactly how your new boobs will look....Damn it is dead on as well...
CC has wide shoulders and narrow waist, as well as deep chest cavity, so 600 ccs actually look quite normal, not like big bazongas dropped under a bra....lol....
Under the muscle definitely feels/looks more natural.......

SuperQT
31-12-2011, 01:25 PM
Ru drinkin and typing again???? Whachu reading, i dont see any women saying they got new man after boobs.....lol....ya boob!!! ;^)
doesnt make sense gringo!!!

BTW, it really depends on a womens structure as far as size goes.....
We went to a doc that had a camera that will show you pretty much exactly how your new boobs will look....Damn it is dead on as well...
CC has wide shoulders and narrow waist, as well as deep chest cavity, so 600 ccs actually look quite normal, not like big bazongas dropped under a bra....lol....
Under the muscle definitely feels/looks more natural.......

Where was the insesion done? Did she go gel or saline? I hope she has a speedy and smooth recovery. My GF that went under the musle had some chest spams the first bit of healing.

GYMBRAT
01-01-2012, 12:02 AM
Ru drinkin and typing again???? Whachu reading, i dont see any women saying they got new man after boobs.....lol....ya boob!!! ;^)
doesnt make sense gringo!!!

BTW, it really depends on a womens structure as far as size goes.....
We went to a doc that had a camera that will show you pretty much exactly how your new boobs will look....Damn it is dead on as well...
CC has wide shoulders and narrow waist, as well as deep chest cavity, so 600 ccs actually look quite normal, not like big bazongas dropped under a bra....lol....
Under the muscle definitely feels/looks more natural.......

Ohhhhh shit thought u had some done my bad "gringo" cause I was just saying you'll feel like a new man duhhhh, read b4 you get drunk bruh ;)

fitnurss
01-01-2012, 01:17 PM
I thought that over the muscle implants could shift as well that is the main reason I haven't gone heavy since I got them.

And yes 600cc's before I started competing I was 36D last contest I did before I got my boobs I was an almost A cup. I had a lot of extra skin so it was really easy for the PS to slip the gel implants in he went thru the nipple wasn't sure if he would be able to or not but it worked out. With sub-fascial and under the muscle is it an anchor insesion under the breast fold? If so how is that for healing?

My understanding is that for the first 4-6 weeks, you want to avoid any lifting, and work your way up after the 4-6 week period is up. After about 4 weeks or so, the implant is generally in the position it's supposed to be. The easy lifting following that time period is more for the integrity of the incision, rather than the implant placement. If you're healing as scheduled, I wouldn't worry about it, as long as it feels right. I started integrating stretching for a week or so before returning to the weights. Incredible how stiff the upper body can get after a few weeks of not training/stretching!

I was also a 36D before starting competing. I went with 350cc, sub fascial with a moderate profile (because my chest was so wide a high profile would have looked like torpedos). I also had a good amount of sag so we did a lift as well. He went in peri-areolar (around nipple) but I didn't need the typical lollipop type of incision thank god. If I wouldn't have gotten the lift with it, I would have opted for an incision under the breast fold though. Unfortunately I've lost all sensation in my nips.

So are you really happy with them? Good surgeon?

natenator
01-01-2012, 01:32 PM
Unfortunately I've lost all sensation in my nips.

That truly is unfortunate :P

fitnurss
01-01-2012, 01:35 PM
Sacrifice.

natenator
01-01-2012, 01:38 PM
Sacrifice.

Only a woman would say that.

Ask a guy if he could have a penis enlargement but lose the feeling in the head of his penis he'd say no fing way.

SuperQT
01-01-2012, 04:35 PM
My understanding is that for the first 4-6 weeks, you want to avoid any lifting, and work your way up after the 4-6 week period is up. After about 4 weeks or so, the implant is generally in the position it's supposed to be. The easy lifting following that time period is more for the integrity of the incision, rather than the implant placement. If you're healing as scheduled, I wouldn't worry about it, as long as it feels right. I started integrating stretching for a week or so before returning to the weights. Incredible how stiff the upper body can get after a few weeks of not training/stretching!

I was also a 36D before starting competing. I went with 350cc, sub fascial with a moderate profile (because my chest was so wide a high profile would have looked like torpedos). I also had a good amount of sag so we did a lift as well. He went in peri-areolar (around nipple) but I didn't need the typical lollipop type of incision thank god. If I wouldn't have gotten the lift with it, I would have opted for an incision under the breast fold though. Unfortunately I've lost all sensation in my nips.

So are you really happy with them? Good surgeon?

I went moderate profile as well kinda wish I would have went tradditional route as there is an issue finding the right fitting bra but really love VS incredible bra. I am happy however I wish I would have listned to PS one breast is slightly larger than the other. When I am real lean it's hard to tell but if I put on some pounds I can notice there not perfectly symmetrical. He was really good I am overall very happy. Sucks that you lost all sensation in the nipples I went around the nipples as well one is slightly more senstive then than the other.

GYMBRAT
01-01-2012, 06:20 PM
Only a woman would say that.

Ask a guy if he could have a penis enlargement but lose the feeling in the head of his penis he'd say no fing way.

GOOOOOOOD "point" and agree yikes NO WAY

fitnurss
01-01-2012, 09:49 PM
hahah

fitnurss
02-01-2012, 12:31 PM
Only a woman would say that.

Ask a guy if he could have a penis enlargement but lose the feeling in the head of his penis he'd say no fing way.

Natenator, you know you're my fav but comparing nipple sensation to penis sensation? Perhaps you might benefit from lessons in landmarking?

countrychic
03-01-2012, 05:31 PM
Where was the insesion done? Did she go gel or saline? I hope she has a speedy and smooth recovery. My GF that went under the musle had some chest spams the first bit of healing.

Well the cats out of the bag....... lol.....IW couldn't wait to tell about his new toys haha

Thanks SQT, I am healing quite quickly, but don't want to hurt myself bc I do feel really good. My incision was below the breast, 600CC moderate profile/saline. I really do LOVE them lol. As IW stated the Dr told me to ease into the weights and be very careful bc of the amount of pectorial muscle I already have. He told me I will be able to make those puppies dance.....I will have to compete with IW now.

I believe in order to get what what works for you a consulation is the only way to go, mainly bc you hear so many different things find a good Dr. and they will help you make the decision that best suits your body and lifestyle.

The reason I went with what I did......

submuscular - helps to keep them in place, bc of the size of implant I have gravity always takes a toll and outside the muscle they will drop and I hope to never have to have them redone.

inscision - below the breast - its hidden, and I didn't want to wreck my nipples .......now they are very sensitive

600CC - best suited for my body

saline - saline you can tell when it leaks or ruptures, you will just pee it out, and the health history is there, the gels there isn't alot of information out there on the new gel implants

SuperQT
03-01-2012, 06:24 PM
Yeah my gf that went under the muscle can make hers dance like crazy its pretty funny. If I were to do it again I think I would do it in the brest fold as well smart not to risk the nipple sensation.

I agree with the consult I went to two diffrent Dr. I found the 2nd one answered my questions better and just got a better gut feeling with him. Trying on the boobs is a ton of fun and totally motivating to get the funds saved up.

mouth
04-01-2012, 07:24 AM
"Trying on the boobs?"

countrychic
13-01-2012, 11:15 AM
"Trying on the boobs?"

They actually give you different sizes to put in a bra to see how they look.

celeste storm
13-01-2012, 12:00 PM
WoW!!! 600cc's, they must be huge!!! Hope your not a runner, or u will be hunched back in no time! But good luck with them! Any pics of them yet?
Well the cats out of the bag....... lol.....IW couldn't wait to tell about his new toys haha

Thanks SQT, I am healing quite quickly, but don't want to hurt myself bc I do feel really good. My incision was below the breast, 600CC moderate profile/saline. I really do LOVE them lol. As IW stated the Dr told me to ease into the weights and be very careful bc of the amount of pectorial muscle I already have. He told me I will be able to make those puppies dance.....I will have to compete with IW now.

I believe in order to get what what works for you a consulation is the only way to go, mainly bc you hear so many different things find a good Dr. and they will help you make the decision that best suits your body and lifestyle.

The reason I went with what I did......

submuscular - helps to keep them in place, bc of the size of implant I have gravity always takes a toll and outside the muscle they will drop and I hope to never have to have them redone.

inscision - below the breast - its hidden, and I didn't want to wreck my nipples .......now they are very sensitive

600CC - best suited for my body

saline - saline you can tell when it leaks or ruptures, you will just pee it out, and the health history is there, the gels there isn't alot of information out there on the new gel implants

ironwill
13-01-2012, 12:51 PM
^^^lol, obviously you are uneducated in the area of boobs, in fact you should be very educated, arent you still latched to your moms??? Yes i know who you are....lol.....You havent seen her x frame structure....600 ccs aint that big when a lady has a deep chest and wide shoulders and small waist and well built legs, it flows...Thats why she did it...d'oh....
And you obviously arent very good with math either...600 ccs is only about 1.75 lbs.....
Send me your email for pics....

Talo
13-01-2012, 01:18 PM
I’ll send you mine - LOL --- Just kidding


I was trying to figure out if that was a curious girl or a creepy dude
:)

celeste storm
13-01-2012, 01:40 PM
If you know who i am,. then u know I am WELL educated about implants! Wasn't a dig, just was making a point about long term effects!!!! Thanks though
^^^lol, obviously you are uneducated in the area of boobs, in fact you should be very educated, arent you still latched to your moms??? Yes i know who you are....lol.....You havent seen her x frame structure....600 ccs aint that big when a lady has a deep chest and wide shoulders and small waist and well built legs, it flows...Thats why she did it...d'oh....
And you obviously arent very good with math either...600 ccs is only about 1.75 lbs.....
Send me your email for pics....

mouth
13-01-2012, 02:21 PM
they actually give you different sizes to put in a bra to see how they look.

brilliant!!! ;)

mouth
13-01-2012, 02:23 PM
I’ll send you mine - LOL --- Just kidding


I was trying to figure out if that was a curious girl or a creepy dude
:)

creepy dude or not.....they're getting pix! :( blast!

ironwill
13-01-2012, 03:03 PM
I’ll send you mine - LOL --- Just kidding


I was trying to figure out if that was a curious girl or a creepy dude
:)

creepy dude....haha
no matter....
ill sneak a pic on here.....

ironwill
13-01-2012, 03:04 PM
"If you know who i am,. then u know I am WELL educated about implants! Wasn't a dig, just was making a point about long term effects!!!! Thanks though" Celeste Storm

i said boobs.....

mouth
13-01-2012, 03:19 PM
creepy dude....haha
no matter....
ill sneak a pic on here.....

comparison pic? haha

SuperQT
13-01-2012, 03:46 PM
CC if you have a Bay around you you should check for Shock Absorber brand bra its amazing if your are doing any higher impact type of workout running or say something like horse back ridding boobs don't move at all. It's a little pricey but they last a long time very high quality.

GYMBRAT
13-01-2012, 06:21 PM
BAHHHH who needs boobs, its all about the booty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mouth
14-01-2012, 08:41 AM
BAHHHH who needs boobs, its all about the booty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now THAT'S a scary thing to say! Ain't nothing in this world better than a great pair of fun pillows!!

ironwill
14-01-2012, 11:45 AM
"BAHHHH who needs boobs, its all about the booty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "


Says most fellas that have small boobs at their disposal.......lol....I was that guy as well... Grow and learn yung man!!!
.Lets just say, my mind has changed.......If you get an awesome booty thrown in with a set of fun pillows as mouth says.....NIRVANA!!!!
I have many a friend that has changed their mind on this topic....A nice job, by a skilled surgeon is very schweet.....

mouth
14-01-2012, 03:15 PM
Yeah, im pretty wise:-)

GYMBRAT
14-01-2012, 04:21 PM
"BAHHHH who needs boobs, its all about the booty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "


Says most fellas that have small boobs at their disposal.......lol....I was that guy as well... Grow and learn yung man!!!
.Lets just say, my mind has changed.......If you get an awesome booty thrown in with a set of fun pillows as mouth says.....NIRVANA!!!!
I have many a friend that has changed their mind on this topic....A nice job, by a skilled surgeon is very schweet.....

wifey has some nice fakeys too, u have yet to see her ;) ....I just wanted to hear the peanut gallery comments :)

ps: I LOVE being young not OLD like poor IW

ironwill
15-01-2012, 12:11 AM
wifey has some nice fakeys too, u have yet to see her ;) ....I just wanted to hear the peanut gallery comments :)

ps: I LOVE being young not OLD like poor IW
Well Bring them over Dammit!!!;)

DnA
15-01-2012, 09:03 AM
My girl has some large ones and I love them.

RkThinkFit
15-01-2012, 11:17 AM
My gf's that have fake breasts dont train chest too hard, some of them just can't....One has it under the muscle and she can't even do hanging leg raises because it's uncomfortable :/

GYMBRAT
15-01-2012, 06:47 PM
Well Bring them over Dammit!!!;)

I will this summer on the scoot ;) hehe then we can drink beer and drool by the lake together LOL

countrychic
16-01-2012, 12:03 PM
CC if you have a Bay around you you should check for Shock Absorber brand bra its amazing if your are doing any higher impact type of workout running or say something like horse back ridding boobs don't move at all. It's a little pricey but they last a long time very high quality.

Great info thank-you!

JacktheThriller
17-01-2012, 02:50 PM
my gf just had a reduction and she lost most sensation in her nipples the doc sort of did a Y shaped cut in the breasts and it left some pretty visible scars i dont know if he sucks or if thats normal