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[Diesel_250]

Thinking of running a test only cycle for 16 weeks
I was thinking about this

weeks 1-4 500 mg/wk Cyp250
weeks 5-16 500 mg/wk sust250
weeks 1-16 20mgs ED nolvadex as I am prone to gyno sides
I will end with a taper, I will take trib the entire time as well

I was thinking of maybe adding in 500mg/wk of EQ but was leaning more towards the test only. any thought?

[Big D]

i think you should stick to 1 test, either cyp or sus,
and i think you only really need to start taking your nolva after the first 3rd week.

also eq would help out alot if you take it for 16 weeks wiht your test.

[Diesel_250]

already got the sust, the reason for the sust at the end is that it usually cuts me up, my plan was to use the cyp to kinda pack on some mass and cut up with the sust. what if I front loaded with sust went in to the cyp then ended with the sust. I was gonna save a bit of the cyp to taper with at the end.

[Big D]

already got the sust, the reason for the sust at the end is that it usually cuts me up, my plan was to use the cyp to kinda pack on some mass and cut up with the sust. what if I front loaded with sust went in to the cyp then ended with the sust. I was gonna save a bit of the cyp to taper with at the end.

i dont think its a good idea to taper off with cyp at the end of your cycle since it has a long half life. and using cyp for just 4 weeks of your cycle is a waste. your better off just using the sust alone ,, or use the sust with the cyp together

[thelittleguy]

tapering would be useless, since you will be shut down by that point. all that will achieve is lowering your dose of test, and possibly hurt your gains. use the same amount of whatever test you have decided on right up until the end, and then start your pct. do you have a proper pct?

[Diesel_250]

I have done pct, I have stopped cold turkey and the best results for me have been a taper drawn out over several weeks with nolvadex 40/30/20/10/10 and trib all the way through the cycle and well after.

[IronRobi]

Cycle itself looks fine. What it all boils down to is that Test is Test. It's rare to see a somebody front-load a cycle with a long ester then switch to a blend of short/long but in the end, it is all still Test.

I'm not a fan of the taper either, especially with a long ester. If you do decide to taper normally a short ester is best. Remember, even a small amount will keep your natural level shut off so if you are running a full cycle for 16 weeks then tapering over "several weeks" you could be creeping into the 20week range. From what I gather by your "40/30/20/10/10" you plan a 5 week taper. If you are still using a small dose of cyp on week 5 it won't clear from your system completely for approx. 2 weeks after that. This is when your natural level will truly be able to fully start recovering. But by that point you have no PCT.

As well, the only studies on Tribulus that have shown it to have any effect on natural Test levels were studies published by the companies selling it. Outside of that the studies done show no effect. Unless there may be new studies in the past year since I last researched this. But this can be a whole other thread and a big flame war. You need to be carefull with those marketing studies, it's like some of the supplement ones that say that you will lose 15% bodyfat and gain 20lbs of muscle all in 6 weeks without having to workout! Running trib throughout the cycle is just spending money you don't need to spend, even though the stuff is cheap.

To sum it all up, cycle looks fine... I'd forget the taper or if you insist to go pick up 10ml of prop and shorten your cycle down to 12-14 weeks and start your pct after you've tapered down not during... And don't bother with the trib, but if you do use it it isn't the end of the world.