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Freebsd1977
23-05-2008, 02:10 AM
Hi CBB, can you guys and gals please post some vitamins/minerals one can take to increase your blood pump. Does L-arginine work good? My goal is to avoid having to buy products like N.O Xplode, Nano vapor, etc...

Thanks again. :tu

Mr.Freeze
23-05-2008, 02:25 AM
Aakg

Freebsd1977
23-05-2008, 03:01 AM
Aakg

Awesome, L-arginine with something extra. :D

Tank
23-05-2008, 05:55 AM
Try L arginine stacked with B vital by Biotics and vandyl sulfate those all together will save you cash and stack your veins with blood, test and GH.

Gettin'r'round
23-05-2008, 08:38 AM
L-Arginine is a GREAT laxative. I tried it years before the whole dilator crap came to the fore. diddly squat.

L3
23-05-2008, 08:41 AM
i get my l arginine from shoppers, 500mg caps, so i take about 4.5-5 grams by itself. its relatively cheap but it may be cheaper in bigger quanitites @ the supplement store. if they dont carry it, its cause they have barnd name products to try to push you ( i know popeyes doesnt carry l arginine by itself).

when i started bb'ing just creatine monohydrate and strip sets 'till falure would do the trick, you just have to take it very often and its a pain if its not in caps.

im going to get some vanadyl today and let you know how i feel tomorrow. ive read good things about it.

Gettin'r'round
23-05-2008, 08:48 AM
vanadyl.. old school

Freebsd1977
23-05-2008, 02:53 PM
Thank you for all the suggestions.

Mr Ontario
23-05-2008, 02:56 PM
Poop head :)


L-Arginine is a GREAT laxative. I tried it years before the whole dilator crap came to the fore. diddly squat.

BrownDevil
23-05-2008, 05:11 PM
Eat more peanuts.

physique
23-05-2008, 05:58 PM
l-arginine itself and vanadyl work great together at getting a bigger pump in the gym. and both are cheap.
l-arginine will run you around $15/90caps/750mg and vanadyl the same. at least thats what it runs at my store

Mr Ontario
23-05-2008, 06:25 PM
Isn't L-Arginine main purpose is to Help support healthy cardiovascular function?

What's the ingredients in your brand of L-arginine Physic?

physique
23-05-2008, 08:55 PM
Isn't L-Arginine main purpose is to Help support healthy cardiovascular function?

What's the ingredients in your brand of L-arginine Physic?


the brand i carry is straight up l-arginine.

What is it and where does it come from?

Arginine is a semi-essential amino acid. It is a building block of protein that performs a myriad of physiological functions. It is a known precursor of the gas nitric oxide [N02].

Arginine is an amino acid that the body cannot make naturally. Therefore it is important to consume foods that are rich in arginine.1

Arginine is found in high concentrations in nuts and seeds like peanuts and almonds. It can also be found in chocolate and raisins.

What does it do and what scientific studies give evidence to support this?

Arginine is necessary for the execution of many physiological processes. These physiological processes include hormone secretion, an increase in growth hormone output, the removal of toxic waste products from the body, and immune system defenses.2

Because Arginine is a precursor of nitric oxide [which is responsible for vasodiolation 3] it is often used for supporting healthy sexual function.

Recently, dietary supplements containing Arginine have become popular due to Arginine's nitric oxide producing ability, its ability to scavenge free radicals, as well as its ability to signal muscle cells, release growth hormone, support healthy cholesterol, and enhance fat metabolism. Arginine helps regulate salt levels in the body. 4

For this reason it should be of interest to competing bodybuilders, as retaining water under the skin can make one looks smooth, bloated and washed out. The nitrogen retaining abilities of Arginine are well-known within the bodybuilding and scientific communities. Arginine is also believed to be crucial for muscle growth due to its vasodilating abilities, as well as its ability to participate in protein synthesis. 5

Learn more about the benefits of L-Arginine on Clayton South's Health Facts.

Who needs it and what are some symptoms of deficiency?

Everyone. Populations in particular need of arginine are growing children, infants, athletes, individuals trying to lose weight, and the elderly. In adult populations Arginine is considered to be a non-essential amino acid. For children, by contrast, Arginine is essential to the defense and development of the adolescent immune system.

Persons suffering from injury can benefit from supplemental arginine, as demand for arginine is increased during times of bodily injury and repair.6 Persons looking to support their sexual health may also benefit from use of Arginine due to its vasodilating properties. Arginine will act to increase the diameter of blood vessels, thereby allowing increased blood flow to reach constricted areas.

Arginine presents benefits to hard training athletes. Supplementing with Arginine may boost the immune system, thereby allowing the athlete to train harder and avoid the detrimental effects of minor health problems associated with overtraining.

Athletes who are discontinuing the use of androgenic or anabolic steroids may benefit from supplemental arginine.

Due to Arginines ability to increase growth hormone levels, its ability to encourage lipid oxidization, and its ability to support healthy blood pressure, supplemental arginine may prove beneficial for persons looking to lose weight.

How much should be taken? Are there any side effects?

Individuals with existing heart or psychiatric conditions should consult with their physician prior to supplementing with Arginine. With any amino acid containing product, overdose is a possibility. Dosing with too much arginine can lead to diarrhea, weakness and nausea. Clear dosing guidelines have not yet been established, so it is best to do what is known as "tolerance mapping".

Take a small dosage for one week, note the benefits and the side effects, and increase the dosage until the benefits are maximized and the side effects minimized. Over time the two will converge and you will hit the optimal dose. This process is similar to "receptor mapping" for bodybuilders who use insulin and steroids.

Many protein powders on the market are fortified with amino acids, including arginine. With this in mind, pay particular attention to how much arginine you are ingesting from sources. If you do not feel comfortable following the above described procedure, it is always best to follow the directions as prescribed on the products label.

cedric
24-05-2008, 12:20 AM
glycerin/glycerol

L3
25-05-2008, 02:52 PM
vanadyl sulfate report:

I got 2 bottles for like $15 cause they expired last month, no biggie, i'm just doubling the rdi.

Took two tabs 50 mins before workout, took 3 more 20 mins before.

Bad: Did not see any noticable increase in strenght or vascularity during the workout.

Good: Did notice that i seem "puffier" when i am not training, ie. keeping the pump even out of the gym. Usually its gone within 15 mins, now im noticing some redisual size increase left.

Verdict: gonna finish the two bottles and not bother again.

Hope this helps :)


EDIT: I've only had it in my system for 2 days, only had 2 workout sessions, if there is a noticeable difference later on i will update the post!

spankmonkey
25-05-2008, 05:28 PM
niacin, not niacidimide, but good old natural naicin. Garlic, cyan, hot peppers and anything spicy are good for the vascular system and "may" help with vascularity.
Bottom line is this, if you want vascularity you MUST remove the subcutaneous fat which is hiding the veins, arteries, capillaries etc.

Just my thoughts. All the supplements in the world will not give you the "abs of steel look" unless you get ride of the fat. Well, except maybe Tony Littles Gazelle!

Freebsd1977
25-05-2008, 06:38 PM
niacin, not niacidimide, but good old natural naicin. Garlic, cyan, hot peppers and anything spicy are good for the vascular system and "may" help with vascularity.
Bottom line is this, if you want vascularity you MUST remove the subcutaneous fat which is hiding the veins, arteries, capillaries etc.

Just my thoughts. All the supplements in the world will not give you the "abs of steel look" unless you get ride of the fat. Well, except maybe Tony Littles Gazelle!

Well said and I would love to punch Tony Little.

L3
25-05-2008, 08:00 PM
freebsd: a word of caution if you are going to use niacin...

expect a sunburn like feeling for about 30-45 mins..it will start soon after ingestion. it will go away lol don't freak

i noticed if you use it for a few days in a row the effect diminishes, but i dunno if that'll be the case for you

have fun

Freebsd1977
26-05-2008, 01:12 AM
freebsd: a word of caution if you are going to use niacin...

expect a sunburn like feeling for about 30-45 mins..it will start soon after ingestion. it will go away lol don't freak

i noticed if you use it for a few days in a row the effect diminishes, but i dunno if that'll be the case for you

have fun

Damn, your warning came too late, ohhh the pain.








j/K LOL! Thanks for the heads-up.