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evoke
19-10-2011, 08:37 PM
Do you know any endocrinologist that specialize in anabolic steroid induced hypogonadism?

It could be in Canada or US, but I wanted to know if anyone has experience with this or even just opinions on some of these doctors.

moh2010
19-10-2011, 08:56 PM
Do you know any endocrinologist that specialize in anabolic steroid induced hypogonadism?

It could be in Canada or US, but I wanted to know if anyone has experience with this or even just opinions on some of these doctors.

DR tom Oconnor aka anabolic doc from muscular development. He's from usa, but he work with Canadians.

He worked for years with bodybuilders and powerlifters and understand what we used, eat, train and how we live.

http://www.metabolicdoc.com/splash.html

natenator
20-10-2011, 07:47 AM
DR tom Oconnor aka anabolic doc from muscular development. He's from usa, but he work with Canadians.

He worked for years with bodybuilders and powerlifters and understand what we used, eat, train and how we live.

http://www.metabolicdoc.com/splash.html

Maybe it's just me but the idea of physicians needing their own website just never seems right. Must be a US thing as I don't see too many in Canada that need to do this.

moh2010
20-10-2011, 06:29 PM
Maybe it's just me but the idea of physicians needing their own website just never seems right. Must be a US thing as I don't see too many in Canada that need to do this.

I think its not an easy task to found a doctor who understand our needs. Show a blood work of a juiced athlete and he will probably have no clue where to start. Those values are abnormal and usually not teached.

Dr. Tom O Connor is treating Derek Poundstone and other undisclosed IFBB pros. I'm sure these guys are not only on HRT... But a least he does his best to make them as healthy as possible (heart, fertility, lipids, blood pressure...).

evoke
20-10-2011, 08:23 PM
I think its not an easy task to found a doctor who understand our need. Show a blood work of a juiced athlete and he will probably have no clue where to start. Those values are abnormal and usually not teached.

Completely agree. Most endocrinologists have no clue about athletes and aas. One time, I questioned endo about why my estrogen was slightly low. He said "It doesn't matter. You don't need estrogen; you're not a woman."


Anyway, thanks for link, moh2010.

moh2010
20-10-2011, 08:44 PM
Completely agree. Most endocrinologists have no clue about athletes and aas. One time, I questioned endo about why my estrogen was slightly low. He said "It doesn't matter. You don't need estrogen; you're not a woman."


Anyway, thanks for link, moh2010.


Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FVyg1iS52w

phatkid77
21-10-2011, 09:09 PM
well, as someone treated by a urologist... i can tell you they dont really care why you are low... if your low, you will get treated...i asked mine if he thought maybe my misuse did this, or naturally low or whatever... "dont know doesnt matter.. you are low"
on a side, i read alot along time ago on dr crislers board... i guess low test levels from say m1t is a bitch to treat...low sex drive ect e ct

evoke
22-10-2011, 11:50 AM
well, as someone treated by a urologist... i can tell you they dont really care why you are low... if your low, you will get treated...i asked mine if he thought maybe my misuse did this, or naturally low or whatever... "dont know doesnt matter.. you are low"

You saw a urologist and now you're on HRT? So they didn't reverse your problem, they just put you on HRT.
I felt horrible on test; I don't want to go on HRT. Besides, my testosterone levels are normal.

natenator
22-10-2011, 01:15 PM
I'd be curiousto hear what nisser thinks

moh2010
22-10-2011, 01:52 PM
You saw a urologist and now you're on HRT? So they didn't reverse your problem, they just put you on HRT.
I felt horrible on test; I don't want to go on HRT. Besides, my testosterone levels are normal.

Did you checked my video evoke? Total and free testosterone are not only the importants factors to feel great. You need to balance your estrogen, cholesterol... This is why "rejuvenation clinics" sucks. They can give a script for test, but not much is done except checking your testosterone level one or twice a year. Healthy heart=healthy body.


You can have ED even on 100-200mg of test if you're not well treated (estrogen etc...).

evoke
23-10-2011, 02:19 PM
Yea I saw the video. Yes, I agree total and free test are not the only indicators to feel great. My other hormones are in balance too. But something is still very wrong. This is why I'm still looking for help. I don't think my problem is hormonal, but I could be wrong of course.

moh2010
23-10-2011, 05:00 PM
you should ask the question to Tom Oconnor:

http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/forumdisplay.php/173-The-Anabolic-Doc-Thomas-O-Connor-MD

Just create a thread with all the details of your blood works and he will answer shortly.

evoke
23-10-2011, 08:05 PM
you should ask the question to Tom Oconnor:

http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/forumdisplay.php/173-The-Anabolic-Doc-Thomas-O-Connor-MD

Just create a thread with all the details of your blood works and he will answer shortly.

I read his forum. He prescribes test to everyone. I'm guessing his response will be "Let's put you on TRT". But we'll see.

phatkid77
23-10-2011, 09:38 PM
U can try and "reverse" the low test... My uro was awesome.. I explained hcg to him.. He went and looked at the dps I'm guessin came back with scripts for everything and told me to let him know what I did..lol

I had tried hcg and clomid b4... And what's ur normal level? Mine was normal too... But low.. Like 10.4 (330 on a 300-1200 scale)

I'm curious.. Being prescribed test...you said they can still experience ED.. What would be outta whack to cause?

evoke
24-10-2011, 04:29 PM
U can try and "reverse" the low test... My uro was awesome.. I explained hcg to him.. He went and looked at the dps I'm guessin came back with scripts for everything and told me to let him know what I did..lol

I had tried hcg and clomid b4...

Did you reverse your problem with HCG, clomid?

phatkid77
26-10-2011, 12:20 AM
Nope

Neavris
02-11-2011, 07:13 PM
Generally all we hear about is test when it comes down to test levels and ED. I'm not sure if you realize but test doesn't matter that much, and guesswork from bodybuilders is shit.

Here's what's going on: The DHT levels are too low.

I understand you don't want to go back on test, but that may be your only way out if you abused steroids since the body doesn't produce the correct amount of DHT any longer to get you back to normal.

Try 50 mg of proviron for 2 weeks nothing else. If you start feeling normal again, then you got it, problem is DHT, nothing else. This is an easy experiment, and you can have certainty after trying it. Natural DHT binds to Estrogen receptor cells, Therefore continuous small dosage of aromatase inhibitors every week (I do mean small...) could potentially restore some.