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Kilburn
20-05-2008, 09:07 PM
i feel really anxious, can't talk, my voice is shaking, my hands are shaking. i feel like i'm doing stupid shit more than usual. always somewhat pissed off and impatient.

i'm always sort of like this but it seems to be getting alot worse.

800test e
600 eq
200 tren e

i bought phenibute and i seems to help but i'm not sure i wanna start talking that shit everyday.

anyone know what i'm talking about here or is it just me?

spiderman7
20-05-2008, 09:12 PM
phenibute ? That like Pot?

Kilburn
20-05-2008, 09:13 PM
more like xanax i think.

Mr.Freeze
20-05-2008, 09:16 PM
your on cycle now?

Kilburn
20-05-2008, 09:17 PM
ya, i posted what i'm on.

Namelessone
20-05-2008, 09:33 PM
Anxiety is part of the game sometimes. You need to be able to control yourself mentally and be of very sound mind before doing this stuff. If you can't maintain mental control then maybe gear isn't for you. Be careful man.

Kilburn
20-05-2008, 09:40 PM
least i'm starting to get somewhat big.

GTZ3
20-05-2008, 09:43 PM
How old are you bro? I realize not everybody on here wants to be a bodybuilder, but for a guy your size running 3 drugs as powerful as test, eq, and tren could be overkill.

Id say cut out the tren (although EQ can cause anxiety also).

tarnow
20-05-2008, 09:44 PM
Drop the EQ dose down to 400mg and see if that helps. Anxiety is a classic symptom of high dosed EQ. Just wait for Gustavo to chime in he'll tell ya from first hand experience.

spiderman7
20-05-2008, 09:48 PM
MrRight is right on the ball. When it comes to playing the game you must be able to control all thats involved. If you allow it to control you then your losing. Whats the use in playing if your going to lose.

Kilburn
20-05-2008, 09:49 PM
How old are you bro? I realize not everybody on here wants to be a bodybuilder, but for a guy your size running 3 drugs as powerful as test, eq, and tren could be overkill.

Id say cut out the tren (although EQ can cause anxiety also).

the fuk is that supposed to mean?

Namelessone
20-05-2008, 09:59 PM
the fuk is that supposed to mean?

Now Now watch that aggression... hehe

I think what he might be suggesting is that you bulk more before using Tren which is a great cutting drug. I could be wrong tho.

I think you have a great build going on there and Tren is awesome for putting on lean mass. I say keep it up *IF* you can learn to control your aggression. If not go back to the meat and potatoes stack...

frenchy
20-05-2008, 10:03 PM
anxiety is not abnormal everyone has it.. its the way you think about it that is the cutter.. Your doubting yourself.. That is the issue. Don't doubt your ability to control side effects from using anabolic steroids and hormones and you will not...
In reality if you can't act to control side effects of substances you are using then simply don't take the substance.
Do like I do and say "**** this shit!" Im going to gym...

Namelessone
20-05-2008, 10:07 PM
I read on another site some advice for those bad anxiety days and it helps me..

Repeat after me:

321...123... What the heck is bothering me.....


Next time you feel aggravated say that to yourself and I'll bet the aggression will lessen.

St
20-05-2008, 11:01 PM
I had this all my life,test made it worst,but eq never at all,tren a bit,but halo shit man just let me hit the yellow light,and get a red light i would blow up,even at a cashier when old people would count there change.Everyone could get it at any point of there life,i tend to think its at the most stressful point of there life for some.Now i'm on Cipralex and never could feel any better,just came off tren and was calm,even did 9*****,test a year ago and was calm,its underline condition for most as it runs in some family's and it in my family,maybe you should go see the doctor at some point if it doesn't get any better.So cut your tren,if you don't feel any better cut your eq.

SiLvErBaK
20-05-2008, 11:25 PM
I agree,
cut the trenboblone, and maybe swing the eq back to 400mg.
I get a little anxiety from test but i'm more irritable than anything. I;m noticing anxiety off of dbol however which is chemically almost identical to eq. Not sure if there's any correlation there. You've got to take control mentally and decide weather or not you can handle these drugs. Maybe talk to a doc you trust and see what he says. I have anxiety problems, more like panic attacks, and have a script for valium which helps but doesn't work miracles. In those really hard times, deep breathing techniques can help, there are some drugs out there, pot i find makes it worse, and if all else fails, if you can control yourself, alcohol (in moderation) does the trick.

fathead
20-05-2008, 11:32 PM
both equ and tren can cause anxiety as mentioned. id drop those, see what happens and then add one of them back in if it goes away.


"SERENITY NOW"

frenchy
20-05-2008, 11:35 PM
I read on another site some advice for those bad anxiety days and it helps me..

Repeat after me:

321...123... What the heck is bothering me.....


Next time you feel aggravated say that to yourself and I'll bet the aggression will lessen.

Thats funny shit bro...lmao

GTZ3
21-05-2008, 12:42 AM
the fuk is that supposed to mean?

Firstly, im not attempting to insult your build ... you have a good amount of mass and your quite lean; however, as I said before I dont know if your justifed in running 3 of the big boys @ the same time when you could probably keep it simpler and perhaps lighter and still obtain great results with less sides and ultimatley less stress on your body.

Mr.Freeze
21-05-2008, 12:42 AM
i feel really anxious, can't talk, my voice is shaking, my hands are shaking. i feel like i'm doing stupid shit more than usual. always somewhat pissed off and impatient.

i'm always sort of like this but it seems to be getting alot worse.

800test e
600 eq
200 tren e

i bought phenibute and i seems to help but i'm not sure i wanna start talking that shit everyday.

anyone know what i'm talking about here or is it just me?

do you have any thing on your mind lately like bad news,Health issue ,court date,financial problem...?

Kilburn
21-05-2008, 12:53 AM
do you have any thing on your mind lately like bad news,Health issue ,court date,financial problem...?

not really. ive been obsessing over girls alot lately whereas normally i couldn't give a fuk. been trying too hard or something. it's like the person i want to be and the way i actually come off is two completely different things and i dont know how to fix it.

edit: and speeding tickets to deal with.

gustavo77
21-05-2008, 03:24 AM
Well firstly, it would be good to know if there is any pre-existing anxiety. Secondly if you have run these compounds before and if you had any anxiety related sides.

That said i get a little anxiety on tren from time to time, none on test but Eq, shit that stuff gave me anxiety 24/7. Not everyone experiences this with Eq but for me it was very prominent. I suggest you drop the Eq entirely, then if that does not work, drop the tren. But i think it is the Eq personally.

thelittleguy
21-05-2008, 04:03 PM
i get occasional anxiety or nervousness from tren, and higher doses of eq as well. as everybody has stated, scale down the eq, then if the problem persists, scale down the tren.

spankmonkey
21-05-2008, 04:17 PM
yoga, meditation, therapy, sex or Depek Chopra might help.
When did the feeling of uncontrolled aggression start? Before or after starting cycle? If the answer is before, then the cycle is not the issue. If after then either the combination or the dose is the issue, in which case you need to step back and start with one for 2-3 weeks, add the next 2-3 weeks and then the third 2-3 weeks. This should identify the culprit.
If all else fails 321....,123..., what the hech is bothering me. LMFAO!

MassNutrition
21-05-2008, 07:21 PM
I had this all my life,test made it worst,but eq never at all,tren a bit,but halo shit man just let me hit the yellow light,and get a red light i would blow up,even at a cashier when old people would count there change.Everyone could get it at any point of there life,i tend to think its at the most stressful point of there life for some.Now i'm on Cipralex and never could feel any better,just came off tren and was calm,even did 9*****,test a year ago and was calm,its underline condition for most as it runs in some family's and it in my family,maybe you should go see the doctor at some point if it doesn't get any better.So cut your tren,if you don't feel any better cut your eq.

Wow, a fellow brother on Cipralex. You don't know how that makes me feel...

I had a drug overdose when I was a teenager and I have suffered from anxiety ever since. I'm currently running 10mg of Cipralex everyday as well. The shit is ****ing awesome. I'm also on 800mg of EQ per week with 500mg of Tren as well, along with some Test and Masteron. My anxiety should be through the ROOF! The anxiety meds definitely help me when I'm running bigger cycles...

grindtight
21-05-2008, 08:46 PM
Well firstly, it would be good to know if there is any pre-existing anxiety. Secondly if you have run these compounds before and if you had any anxiety related sides.

That said i get a little anxiety on tren from time to time, none on test but Eq, shit that stuff gave me anxiety 24/7. Not everyone experiences this with Eq but for me it was very prominent. I suggest you drop the Eq entirely, then if that does not work, drop the tren. But i think it is the Eq personally.

hey gustavo u are probably right about the eq causing anxiety.but what i like to know is why it does.i was told there is is a very good read somewere on why eq has a chemical reaction in the brain that causes anixety but i can find it.dam.

pseclint
21-05-2008, 09:55 PM
there has to be a link between anxiety and gear with almost anything that messes with hormones, i saw no anxiety before i started smashing vials.....

St
21-05-2008, 10:56 PM
Wow, a fellow brother on Cipralex. You don't know how that makes me feel...

I had a drug overdose when I was a teenager and I have suffered from anxiety ever since. I'm currently running 10mg of Cipralex everyday as well. The shit is ****ing awesome. I'm also on 800mg of EQ per week with 500mg of Tren as well, along with some Test and Masteron. My anxiety should be through the ROOF! The anxiety meds definitely help me when I'm running bigger cycles...

Yes i hope you feel better,i'm also on 10mg a day.It does help on bigger cycle.

Houstonbc
21-05-2008, 11:01 PM
i tried tren at 100mg ed and lasted 15 days before i went off completely. i ran tren a few times before at lower doses and wanted to crank it up a notch... boy was that a bad idea i was completely messed up fighting with everyone i could and had extreme anxiety about everything couldnt sleep at all awake all night worrying about the stupidest shit my mind could think of. Im on eq (only 500mg wk) right now along with test cyp about to drop in tren this friday only at 100mg eod which is good for me.

I would think its the tren giving you the anxiety have you tried it before?

td1111
22-05-2008, 11:22 PM
I noticed anxiety as soon as I went above 400mg of EQ/wk.

canadianmuscle0803
23-05-2008, 04:22 AM
EQ is causing it most likely, i dont know why it does but it does! anyone have a scientific explanation to this? are you on any meds?

beserker
23-05-2008, 11:53 AM
Everybody here gave you sound advice , my anxiety issues were due to deca actually . If you dont feel like taking the pharmaceutical route you could try valarian root at 500mg 3x/day....thats what i used and it helped me lots

Willow
19-06-2008, 01:37 AM
Try antidepressants. They work great. I'm on paxil. Just go to the doctor and ask for it.

RJ*
19-06-2008, 05:22 AM
more than likely the eq
i never in life got anxiety b4 i used that shitty drug

gsxr750
19-06-2008, 03:34 PM
Paxil will make you a CHAMP in the sack. Add in some V or some C and they wont know what hit them.

grindtight
19-06-2008, 04:33 PM
i feel really anxious, can't talk, my voice is shaking, my hands are shaking. i feel like i'm doing stupid shit more than usual. always somewhat pissed off and impatient.

i'm always sort of like this but it seems to be getting alot worse.

800test e
600 eq
200 tren e

i bought phenibute and i seems to help but i'm not sure i wanna start talking that shit everyday.

anyone know what i'm talking about here or is it just me?

ya bro i here ya about anxiety either drop the eq or use some 5 htp to calm ya down works for me.

leeroy
19-06-2008, 04:36 PM
EQ at 600mg/week nearly made me have an anxiety attack in a packed store. I just left everything there and walked out. Wife thought I was insane :)

Kilburn
19-06-2008, 08:47 PM
i think it was the tren actually. feeling quite a bit better now.

CBB loves Japan
19-06-2008, 10:02 PM
maybe we're all just nuts. ;)