Injection Pains.

[freshh]

I took my second shot of sust last nite 1cc=250mg .

It went into my left cheek, cuz my last shot was on my right and itw as stil sore.

i did the proper injection ( measured it, put in a bit more cuz i was a bit late. Tapped the bubbles out, pushed until a few dribbles, injected, pulled the syringe to see if any blood, no blood, injected , wiped with cotton swab.)

It felt really comfortable even tho im squeemish with needles. But, the next morning just like the other shot, i get a pain in the ass (literally).

Its like its kind of bruised , not swollen up, its uncomfortable but not something that is Really really bugging me..

Im just wondering what the cause would be?

Btw, my ass isnt muscular at all lol, is it maybe because im injecting it into the fat? but im pretty sure it hits some muscle, my ass aint that big lol.

I was thinking injecting in the side of my thigh.. will i have the same problem?

should i warm the sust up a bit?

so many questions ahhhh! help

on another note. i left my syringe in the washroom and my dad found it and flipped out asked everybuddy in the family if they were taking some drugs, i smirked while turning my back, and was like " hey thats not mine" and my older sister was like LIER LIER your taking steroids . i was like noooo haha leave me alone. all is well tho, he threw it in the garbage and they all forgot.

[ergie]

The prop in sust has that effect on some, dont think heating it up would do anything. Where on your ass are you injecting?

[MassNutrition]

I would also agree in saying that it can be the Prop as well. The propionate ester is more acidic than fatty, compared to other esters. Some individuals are WAY too sensitive when it comes to Prop use... there is nothing you can do about it...

[freshh]

Thanks for the info.

Makes sence.. whats another roid that isn't as nasty, but good effects.

So Test p is out of the question?

[ergie]

test enanthate or cypionate are my choice

[Mr.Freeze]

For your ass use 1.5 inch needle and you wont miss the muscle! As for the pain its true it could be the prop. but it could be that your body is not use to it but after a few shoot you want feel it as much! Personaly every time i fillup my syringe i change the needle for a new one before i inject it just going to sting less and you put chance on your side for infection but it wont change the pain cause by the product!

[freshh]

Fair game..

Sheesh it doesnt help working at an office for 8.5 hrs sitting on to injected ass cheeks that are still swollen, limping around like a hobbit.

lmao.

[InsulinShock]

The post-injection pain is from the irritation you are causing to the injection site. The needle piercing your skin & flesh, the oil in the muscle as well as the solvent used in the preparation all irritate the site. BA (benzyl alcohol) is used as a bacteriostatic preservative as well as a solvent to get the raw hormone into solution. All of this = PAIN. The Proprionate ester is harder to get into solution so this USUALLY means that a higher amount of BA is present. BUT suck it up! If this is the game you want to play then get used to it. Overtime the body gets accustomed to the BA and you will notice that the post-injection pain will diminish. BTW, I don\'t see you wiping down the rubber stopper or injection site with an alcohol pad. Practice proper sterile injection procedures as I know this is your first cycle and you should get into the habit of doing so.

[freshh]

Yeah I actually do wipe down the mutli-dose vial of sust with a cottonswab with alcohol , as well as the injected area.

But yeah, there is pain.

[Durk]

Get used to it, try shooting 1.5ccs of ProNPP in your shoulders. I think I am goin to cry lol

[ergie]

I'm one of the lucky ones who can put 2 ccs of prop right in my delt and not have a problem at all

[Mr.Freeze]

You lucky one!! lol :)

[InsulinShock]

Well now we all can be considered lucky with ethyl oleate being used as a carrier for most of the painful injectables. I have yet to try it but have heard of quite a few people successfully brewing a Test Prop @ 200mg/ml which is painless. Good news for all us short-ester lovers.

[freshh]

MMMMmmm oils

[TORDON]

you will get used to buddy, after a while youll not even feel it........

[TORDON]

I'm one of the lucky ones who can put 2 ccs of prop right in my delt and not have a problem at all

me too ive got no problems ever anymore, and havent for a couple of years now, hell I can stick 2cc's right into my bicep, and not feel a thing, I wouldn't recomend sticking 2 cc's into your bicep as its a small muscle but for me I know what I can get away with......

[ergie]

I shoot into my legs all the time, 1" and I've done up to 3cc's

[InsulinShock]

I shoot into my legs all the time, 1" and I've done up to 3cc's

Same here. It's one of the easiest sites to hit. Unfortunately when administering painful gear it's the worst. I'm sure everyone that has done them can relate. It's not fun hobbling around after a shot of Prop.

[TORDON]

mix it with some b12

[Tayousei]

Well, one thing that has not been mentioned is that you pushed the plunger until a bit came out the tip... That slight amount can get into your subcutaneous tissue to cause irritation and is not at all part of preparing an IM injection, contrary to what one or two websites may suggest. Also, make sure to NOT massage the site because that contributes to bruising, again, contrary to old misinformation which still lingers. If you z-trac, it also keeps the gear from leaking out of the muscle into subcutaneous tissue. This might be hard if you do it on your on dorsogluteal, but it's easy if someone else does it for you.

[Mr.Freeze]

Whats Z-TRAC?

[Tayousei]

Z-trac is a technique used to keep IM injected solutions in the muscle. Very important with, say, iron because if it leaks out it can leave permanent tinting underneath your skin (kind of like a tattoo.) Anyway, the way to do it is to first select your injection site, alcohol, then slide the overlying skin over about an inch in one direction and hold it there while you perform your injection. When you're done injecting, apply counterpressure for comfort, then withdraw the needle and release the skin you were holding to the side. If you try it on your self on the dorsogluteal site that you used, you'll see why I suggest getting someone else to do it for you. Very difficult contorsion act.... A tip is to use the blade of your non-dominant hand to keep the skin held off to the side. Use the index/thumb of that same hand to stabilize the syringe while your dominant hand performs the actual injection. Counterpressure around the site during the initial poke and during the withdrawal of the needle make it so you don't feel a thing at all during the injection process. Hopefully this helps you out with the discomfort.

P.S. Don't forget to aspirate. It's very rare but you COULD hit a blood vessel...

[TORDON]

I shoot into my legs all the time, 1" and I've done up to 3cc's


I can go three cc's into the legs too, I go with a 1.5" though

[TORDON]

[QUOTE=Tayousei;1926]Well, one thing that has not been mentioned is that you pushed the plunger until a bit came out the tip... That slight amount can get into your subcutaneous tissue to cause irritation and is not at all part of preparing an IM injection, QUOTE]

hmm, this is the way ive always done it. to be sure all the air is out of the syringe, also the little bit that comes out helps lubracation for the ject.....

I z track alot, but i thought this pretty much just kept a guy from bleeding.......

[Tayousei]

I normally get all the air bubbles out while the drawing needle is in the vial still. The amount of air that occupies the inside of the needle has no consequence if injected in the muscle. Even if it went into a vein, the air wouldn't be of much concern, althought the oil would be... There is even an old, outdated technique called "air lock" that entailed leaving a 1/2cc bubble of air to help seal in the fluid. It's not done anymore, but the air was no concern other than making it difficult to measure your dose accurately.

The lubricating notion is a concept that is made common because of easily accessible information/websites that, unfortunately, demonstrate outdated techniques. Then it takes off as a buddy showing/doing for another buddy, etc. Hard to change that but I try to when I can. The needle has no problem going into your muscle "dry." It's like butter, anyway.

My buddy used to shoot me up the same way with the lubricating, etc, and it burned bad every single time for days. This time around I had clinical experience with IM injections and proper training so I showed my workout buddies how to do it properly and it's been markedly improved for pain.

I havent had to do more than 2cc per shot, but it's generally fine now in my vastus lateralis and totally painless in my dorsogluteals, 1.5" all the time, even though you're supposed to use a 1" for the vastus. I find there's enough meat there to use the 1.5 for myself.

[ergie]

I can go three cc's into the legs too, I go with a 1.5" though

do you think that 1.5" is req'd? I use 1" all the time for leg injects up to 3cc's

[Tayousei]

Not at all Fergie. 1" is actually recommended. I just use 1.5" cuz I got like 100 of them. It's mostly out of convenience in my case. I find that for me it's not too long and my other buddies only use the dorsogluteal site, where 1.5" is fine.

[Mr.Freeze]

Z-trac is a technique used to keep IM injected solutions in the muscle. Very important with, say, iron because if it leaks out it can leave permanent tinting underneath your skin (kind of like a tattoo.) Anyway, the way to do it is to first select your injection site, alcohol, then slide the overlying skin over about an inch in one direction and hold it there while you perform your injection. When you're done injecting, apply counterpressure for comfort, then withdraw the needle and release the skin you were holding to the side. If you try it on your self on the dorsogluteal site that you used, you'll see why I suggest getting someone else to do it for you. Very difficult contorsion act.... A tip is to use the blade of your non-dominant hand to keep the skin held off to the side. Use the index/thumb of that same hand to stabilize the syringe while your dominant hand performs the actual injection. Counterpressure around the site during the initial poke and during the withdrawal of the needle make it so you don't feel a thing at all during the injection process. Hopefully this helps you out with the discomfort.

P.S. Don't forget to aspirate. It's very rare but you COULD hit a blood vessel...

OK! now i understand! thanx

[TORDON]

Not at all Fergie. 1" is actually recommended. I just use 1.5" cuz I got like 100 of them. It's mostly out of convenience in my case. I find that for me it's not too long and my other buddies only use the dorsogluteal site, where 1.5" is fine.

this is my case too, always have lots of 1'5" kicking around...when i first started though, years and years ago, when I was young dumb and full of cum, i used to go with 1'5's in the delts too, a little over kill id say, but there wasn't to much reliable info, i could get my hands on back then, and I was going by my sources recomendations....