Tony Searle

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Location: Ontario

2012 IFBB Arnold Amateur - 4th Light-Heavyweight
2011 OPA Ontario Provincial Championships - 7th Heavyweight
2010 OPA Ontario Provincial Championships - 2nd Middleweight
2010 OPA Festival City Stratford Championships - 1st Middleweight
2009 OPA Ottawa Championships - 4th Heavyweight

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[bluenose]

Isn't he doing the Nationals? Just odd since I see he didn't qualify this year!

[steve_d]

looks like he qualified in 2010. he came 2nd. Those who came 2nd-5th in 2010 would have a bye to do the 2010 nationals, or the 2011. By coming 7th this year, he would not lose his status...Although, I am slightly confused why he would have done provincials this year if his plan was to do nationals. Seems to me that just makes it harder on you dieting all year and what not.

That said, I saw a recent pic, and i think he finally stepped up his game. he really looked lean in it, and definitely was on pace.

[natenator]

I'm confused by that also. Why make it harder on yourself UNLESS he understands he has a problem dialing it in therefore the additional time to get lean (Provincials) then get even leaner (Nationals) is what he's shooting for.

Who knows. I know I sure as hell wouldn't want to diet for what basically amounts to 7-8 months just for nothing. He has to of known he'd get smoked at a HW at Provincials this year?



looks like he qualified in 2010. he came 2nd. Those who came 2nd-5th in 2010 would have a bye to do the 2010 nationals, or the 2011. By coming 7th this year, he would not lose his status...Although, I am slightly confused why he would have done provincials this year if his plan was to do nationals. Seems to me that just makes it harder on you dieting all year and what not.

That said, I saw a recent pic, and i think he finally stepped up his game. he really looked lean in it, and definitely was on pace.

[Delt King]

looks like he qualified in 2010. he came 2nd. Those who came 2nd-5th in 2010 would have a bye to do the 2010 nationals, or the 2011. By coming 7th this year, he would not lose his status...Although, I am slightly confused why he would have done provincials this year if his plan was to do nationals. Seems to me that just makes it harder on you dieting all year and what not.

That said, I saw a recent pic, and i think he finally stepped up his game. he really looked lean in it, and definitely was on pace.

When i spoke to the OPA regarding the same kind of situation with one of my clients and i was told that if they compete at Provincials like Tony did and don't place top 5 they lose their qualification to Nationals even with a 2nd place the year prior. He quoted some part of the rule book to me. If in fact he is allowed to compete at Nationals, i wish him good luck, it's going to be tough one in light-heavy or especially heavy weight. It'll be a real eye opener.

[natenator]

When i spoke to the OPA regarding the same kind of situation with one of my clients and i was told that if they compete at Provincials like Tony did and don't place top 5 they lose their qualification to Nationals even with a 2nd place the year prior. He quoted some part of the rule book to me. If in fact he is allowed to compete at Nationals, i wish him good luck, it's going to be tough one in light-heavy or especially heavy weight. It'll be a real eye opener.

He's gonna get smoked in either LOL

I think Shannon will even have a difficult time but one thing Shannon has for him is he knows to bring total conditioning and he's uber balanced in his physique. No real weaknesses in my opinion. Of course, I am biased but I am also harsh so maybe not so biased lol

[bluenose]

When i spoke to the OPA regarding the same kind of situation with one of my clients and i was told that if they compete at Provincials like Tony did and don't place top 5 they lose their qualification to Nationals even with a 2nd place the year prior. He quoted some part of the rule book to me. If in fact he is allowed to compete at Nationals, i wish him good luck, it's going to be tough one in light-heavy or especially heavy weight. It'll be a real eye opener.

I thought that was the case. If so I would be pissed if I was the 6th place guy and didn't get the token invite! As we all know before the rule change and condensed levels you would have to earn your way to the Nationals by placing top three in your class.

Best of luck!:beer

[phatkid77]

I've heard different stories, but whatever.. Kid has potential and I hope he's pounding it!! Judgin by his last pic, definetly looks better!
He wasn't planning on being HW @ the provincials... He wanted to be LHW but missed it..ect ect

[steve_d]

He's gonna get smoked in either LOL

I think Shannon will even have a difficult time but one thing Shannon has for him is he knows to bring total conditioning and he's uber balanced in his physique. No real weaknesses in my opinion. Of course, I am biased but I am also harsh so maybe not so biased lol

I am gonna have to agree on this. Tony realistically should be in the old middleweight class. Ie under 187. At 187, his structure will have a hard time against the really good guys who are 187, as well as the really good guys who are 198. I do think he'll place in the top 10 though, but top 5 is going to be insanely tough. Shannon should be able to squeeze into a top 5 spot if he's made some gains to his chest since last show.

[Delt King]

If Shannon comes in shape...he'll be a major threat for a class win and potential pro card. (yes i am predicting this now, lmao)

[phatkid77]

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Here he is, @ 183lb and he took 2nd I think??
I will say, he looks sharper now.. I can't get effn BB to upload his cvurrent pic..

[steve_d]

If Shannon comes in shape...he'll be a major threat for a class win and potential pro card. (yes i am predicting this now, lmao)

not that this belong in this thread, but no way will he be taking that pro card unless he looks like a whole new person since last competition. But again, top 5 definitely possible!

[varking]

Tony is ready! Best I have ever seen him! Bluenose are you competing?

[freaky abs]

Tony has a lot of potential. He came in 1st middleweight at the 2010 OPA Statford Championship and 2nd middleweight at the 2010 OPA Ontario Provincial Championships. Then he made the mistake of training with personal trainer Sherrie Agius and came in 7th heavyweight at the 2011 OPA Ontario Provincial Championship under her training. This is the same show that he placed 2nd the year before in 2010. He needs to go back to what worked for him in the past and train by himself. Middleweight class will be a good class for him.

[BigGuns21]

Tony has a lot of potential. He came in 1st middleweight at the 2010 OPA Statford Championship and 2nd middleweight at the 2010 OPA Ontario Provincial Championships. Then he made the mistake of training with personal trainer Sherrie Agius and came in 7th heavyweight at the 2011 OPA Ontario Provincial Championship under her training. This is the same show that he placed 2nd the year before in 2010. He needs to go back to what worked for him in the past and train by himself. Middleweight class will be a good class for him.

I'll actualy defend Sherrie on this one. Ther 1lb weight difference that put him HW was both their faults, both her and Tony should have had their own scale with them before hand and not relied on the official weigh-in one to realize he was 2lbs over. Tony also will be the first to tell you he didn't do as much cardio as he should have cause he was worried about losing too much mass. I think he's learned his lesson and is listening to Sherrie more closely. This woman brings her competitors to the stage in good condition I will not take that away from her. She has Jordan Janvier looking stage ready today and still has to bring him down so he's not a SHW! Tony's wheels are excellent, he just has some upper body parts to bring up, but he's just a kid in bodybuilding terms, he's got a long time to complete his package unlike the old farts like me.

[steve_d]

I'll actualy defend Sherrie on this one. Ther 1lb weight difference that put him HW was both their faults, both her and Tony should have had their own scale with them before hand and not relied on the official weigh-in one to realize he was 2lbs over. Tony also will be the first to tell you he didn't do as much cardio as he should have cause he was worried about losing too much mass. I think he's learned his lesson and is listening to Sherrie more closely. This woman brings her competitors to the stage in good condition I will not take that away from her. She has Jordan Janvier looking stage ready today and still has to bring him down so he's not a SHW! Tony's wheels are excellent, he just has some upper body parts to bring up, but he's just a kid in bodybuilding terms, he's got a long time to complete his package unlike the old farts like me.

yeah, but making lhw would not have really changed how well he did...Sure, instead of 7th, he might have cracked top 5, but he wasn't winning LHW....

Why did he compete though in the first place?

[BigGuns21]

yeah, but making lhw would not have really changed how well he did...Sure, instead of 7th, he might have cracked top 5, but he wasn't winning LHW....

Why did he compete though in the first place?

He definitley would have cracked top 5, prob 3rd or 4th, Jay Green had 2nd pretty wrapped up I think. Not sure why he chose to do the Onatrio's twice when he was already qualified...

[steve_d]

the only reason (I could see) that someone would re-do provincials after coming 2nd the year before would be to come back to win it. In that case, it isn't necessarily nationals being the goal, its that they would want a victory under their belt. With that said, a week before the show, someone should have said: you aren't ready to win LHW and saved the trouble. He risked losing his qualification, which is essentially what I think should have happened according to at least the old ontario rules.

Not that he isn't a top 5 provincial caliber athlete - because he definitely is (in the right class), but rules are rules.

I'd like to know what he is weighing now. not that it matters with the new class, but I really think he is built for the old middleweight class (up to 187). In fact, when he placed 2nd in 2010, I think he should have gone light middle.

[freaky abs]

That was bad advice from his trainer to do the provincials again after 2nd place victory the year before. Yes I agree with you, he should have been in the middleweight class. He would have won that class.

[varking]

Tony competed at provincials because he wanted too. It was his choice to compete not Sherries! Remember he is only 22 years old! I think most of you guys are saying he wont win the nationals. But he has sooo many more years to win this and I think we can all say the more you step on stage the
better you will do in the long run. He is still learning alot and thats why I think he did provincials! To learn!

[phatkid77]

Far as I know..last week he was 209lb, I'm thinkin and hoping he has learned his lesson.. I'd kill for 1/3 of his genetics..but potential will only get ya so far.. Still got to do work.. I want to see him absolutely peeled..

[natenator]

Far as I know..last week he was 209lb, I'm thinkin and hoping he has learned his lesson.. I'd kill for 1/3 of his genetics..but potential will only get ya so far.. Still got to do work.. I want to see him absolutely peeled..

At lower level shows you can get by with less comditioning and make up for it with size but at a national level show, not a chance. Or rather, very often not a chance. There have been some squeekers lol

[freaky abs]

Prior to 2009, you had to place in the top 3 to qualify for the Nationals. Today 4th and 5th place finishers now squeeze thru to the next stage. If you place 4th or 5th place at the provincials, you do not stand a chance at the Nationals.

[BigGuns21]

Prior to 2009, you had to place in the top 3 to qualify for the Nationals. Today 4th and 5th place finishers now squeeze thru to the next stage. If you place 4th or 5th place at the provincials, you do not stand a chance at the Nationals.

I disagree with that. I was 4th at Provincials this year, a very close 3rd but guarantee you I will belong on the National stage next year. Some may come in the same every show but I've made steady improvements each year in my symetry and conditioning. Size is not an issue as I'm always one of the biggest in my class. If you utilize your offseason properly you can make massive changes in a year's time. Did I belong on the National stage this year? Not a chance, improvements were needed and they will be made by next August.

[phatkid77]

Hopefully ur gettin some extra arm sessions in;) lol ****er

[steve_d]

I disagree with that. I was 4th at Provincials this year, a very close 3rd but guarantee you I will belong on the National stage next year. Some may come in the same every show but I've made steady improvements each year in my symetry and conditioning. Size is not an issue as I'm always one of the biggest in my class. If you utilize your offseason properly you can make massive changes in a year's time. Did I belong on the National stage this year? Not a chance, improvements were needed and they will be made by next August.

I somewhat agree...but I guess it depends what people use the word belonging to mean...Tim Love came 5th at provincials last year if I recall, and everyone says he will do damage this year. Personally I am a little skeptic on anyone unable to place top 3 at provincials being able to 'do damage' at nationals the year later. 1 year is not a lot of time, and unless you either showed up out of shape and came top 5 in an easy class, then you will not 'do damage'...Belong their, yes, but be in contention...no, that takes YEARS from placing 5th in a province to going to nationals.

but yes, for sure 4th and 5th place finishers in the largest province in the hard weight classes should be allowed to compete at nationals...doesn't mean they will place, but neither does winning provincials! top 3 at nationals is no joke.

It also depends a lot on the weight class you were in...I DON'T believe a 5th place finisher in light middle or lower should compete at nationals...they will get slaughtered. Particularly when there is often less than 5 guys in those lighter classes! I think there were 6 in my class last year. Should all but 1 get to do nationals? seems a little easy.

[freaky abs]

I somewhat agree...but I guess it depends what people use the word belonging to mean...Tim Love came 5th at provincials last year if I recall, and everyone says he will do damage this year. Personally I am a little skeptic on anyone unable to place top 3 at provincials being able to 'do damage' at nationals the year later. 1 year is not a lot of time, and unless you either showed up out of shape and came top 5 in an easy class, then you will not 'do damage'...Belong their, yes, but be in contention...no, that takes YEARS from placing 5th in a province to going to nationals.

but yes, for sure 4th and 5th place finishers in the largest province in the hard weight classes should be allowed to compete at nationals...doesn't mean they will place, but neither does winning provincials! top 3 at nationals is no joke.

It also depends a lot on the weight class you were in...I DON'T believe a 5th place finisher in light middle or lower should compete at nationals...they will get slaughtered. Particularly when there is often less than 5 guys in those lighter classes! I think there were 6 in my class last year. Should all but 1 get to do nationals? seems a little easy.
Well said Steve D, you know your bodybuilding man.

[natenator]

I think the point being made isnt that you won't belong on a national stage but rather you won't stand a chance at a top 3 finish on a national stage in the 4 or 5 position coming from provincials.

You have made big improvements in 3 years but you have a long way still to go to fill out areas to counterbalace the size of your delts and arms. Lat width needs to improve as you arms hide a lot, legs still need a lot of size to match your upper (have made great progress here already) and chest still needs to fill out.

I'm in agreement that 4th and 5th won't be normally (keyword) competitive on a national stage.


I think the move from top 3 to allowing 4th and 5th waters down the talent pool at the national level a but. Much in the same way the IFBB is moving away from top 3 in shows for olympia qualifications - to try and ensure they have the best on stage.



I disagree with that. I was 4th at Provincials this year, a very close 3rd but guarantee you I will belong on the National stage next year. Some may come in the same every show but I've made steady improvements each year in my symetry and conditioning. Size is not an issue as I'm always one of the biggest in my class. If you utilize your offseason properly you can make massive changes in a year's time. Did I belong on the National stage this year? Not a chance, improvements were needed and they will be made by next August.

[freaky abs]

I think the point being made isnt that you won't belong on a national stage but rather you won't stand a chance at a top 3 finish on a national stage in the 4 or 5 position coming from provincials.

You have made big improvements in 3 years but you have a long way still to go to fill out areas to counterbalace the size of your delts and arms. Lat width needs to improve as you arms hide a lot, legs still need a lot of size to match your upper (have made great progress here already) and chest still needs to fill out.

I'm in agreement that 4th and 5th won't be normally (keyword) competitive on a national stage.


I think the move from top 3 to allowing 4th and 5th waters down the talent pool at the national level a but. Much in the same way the IFBB is moving away from top 3 in shows for olympia qualifications - to try and ensure they have the best on stage.
I agree Natenator, the move from top 3 to allowing 4th and 5th place winners to get in reduces the quality talent that should be at a Canadian National Championships.

[Delt King]

A fourth place finisher in Ontario in the heavier classes is likely equal to a second place qualifier in a smaller province just based on population. Shouldn't he get the same chance as the other of getting beat at Nationals. lol

Nationals is a whole other ball game...it was a huge eye opener for me for sure.

18 days to go. And we will see who decided to bring the best package.:beer

[steve_d]

My answer to that would piss the 2nd place finishers off from the small provinces...lol.

Seriously though, the new IFBB rule that only winners will be qualified for the olympia is awesome - keeps the highest show SUPER ELITE. And keeping our old rule in ontario at Top 3 only qualifies would be better. It would ensure that those people from ontario are placing in the front of the pack, and not just all over the pack. Yes, the 5th place finisher in ontario might be better than the 2nd place finisher in say, NS - but in all likelihood, those 2 guys will finish out of the top 10, or even worse. My vote would be only send the winner of each class, and let them battle it out. Of course, that implies less competitors, less fans, less money...So not really an option.

I guess that vision is part of what the elite show down is all about ...

[varking]

Is he ready?? You be the judge!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJfwl6eyz6Q&feature=player_embedded


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJfwl6eyz6Q

[Delt King]

Is he ready? He's in great shape but he's not stage ready...at least from the back. But hey we're still 17 days out and neither am i nor many of us competing stage ready right now. He's close enough though that he very well could be. Light heavy is going to be the most enormous class in the show.

[bluenose]

Going out on a limb here...but he is not ready! If that video is from 17 days out then he is not. Smooth, fat, watery, sodium load, spilling over, poor lighting in the gym what ever the culprit he's not on track!
For god sake who ever took that video you might want to shoot farther away than 12 inches!

[natenator]

Going out on a limb here...but he is not ready! If that video is from 17 days out then he is not. Smooth, fat, watery, sodium load, spilling over, poor lighting in the gym what ever the culprit he's not on track!
For god sake who ever took that video you might want to shoot farther away than 12 inches!

Agreed and not even close.

How tall is he? Must be midget height if one can do pullups in a smith machine. My knees would be dragging on the floor lol

[freaky abs]

Going out on a limb here...but he is not ready! If that video is from 17 days out then he is not. Smooth, fat, watery, sodium load, spilling over, poor lighting in the gym what ever the culprit he's not on track!
For god sake who ever took that video you might want to shoot farther away than 12 inches!
I agree he is not ready. He is doing the Lightheavy weight class. This is the Canadian National Championships. He is not ready.

[varking]

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here is a pic 4 Weeks out!
I think he will be ready come time to step on stage! I'll eat crow if he's not top 3 light heavy weights!

[phatkid77]

Get the crow ready...lol
He was lookin decent here, but this back workout isint doing justice.....

[varking]

I was just thinking how long till Phat kid posts something negative! Lol On the other hand Heath looked like shit eh hahah
Glad to see your still around!

[bluenose]

Ok, just to have an idea of what a National level top three would look like. Granted one is already pro, but the other two will most likely compete. Top three would be would be pretty good for your first Nationals. Not seeing it by the video's or picture! Besides we just have to wait to see what he looks like when standing beside someone else. Someone may look great standing amonst gym rats. But under the stage lights in comparisons will be different!
My amateur opinion is he has a decent shape, but needs more thickness all over, more detail and come in shape!

[varking]

I guess we will see where the chips fall Lol Either way it's hard to disagree that Tony isn't the future of bodybuilding in Canada Kids only 22 Years old.
Bluenose you stepping on stage at nationals?

[phatkid77]

I'm not being negative.. I'm being real..and the Tonster DOES have potential..I want him to bust his ass and unleash it!!
I also know I look like crap compared to him, so I aint hatin..

[varking]

Phatkid I was just busting your chops lol I know your buddy's with him.
Your looking like crap I haven't seen a gym in months lol time to pick up my socks!

[Stunna]

LHW won't be like previous years everyone's moved up or pro now.
Theres no Larry V and Marko is in heavies bottom line if yiur in freaky codition you can place.

[Stunna]

I can't spell cause im driving and forum txtin haha

[phatkid77]

That's the concensus.... Freaky condtion is required for this level, along with size...
Ur lookin right on track btw.... And my speelin is just fat thumbs...lol

[O-Train]

This thread turned into 5 pages of who gives a shit...lol :)

[bluenose]

This thread turned into 5 pages of who gives a shit...lol :)

LOL.......Just enough for you to post! Just trying to get it to 6 pages.

[bluenose]

LHW won't be like previous years everyone's moved up or pro now.
Theres no Larry V and Marko is in heavies bottom line if yiur in freaky codition you can place.

Hassan has a point the competition will be different from previous years. The ones he mentioned and also I believe Martin Allard will be moving up as well to the HW. Chris Bonnet I think will still be in the class, but other than that it may very well be a shallow compared to previous years!

[bluenose]

I guess we will see where the chips fall Lol Either way it's hard to disagree that Tony isn't the future of bodybuilding in Canada Kids only 22 Years old.
Bluenose you stepping on stage at nationals?

No, I'm heading straight to the Arnolds in March just got the invite!

[steve_d]

u guys have a good point about the class this year...but remember that it is also the middleweight division combined. With that said, recent contenders from the middleweight are also pro (rob belisle, pat bernard)....

It really might come down to whos in shape even more than normal.

And this thread is by no means 5 pages of shit. its the best 'bodybuilding' type thread we've had on here in a long time. the mr. O has come and gone, and no one even talks about that for more than a few minutes. This is our national championships, and this thread is about the only talk we've had about it.

[varking]

That's sweet bluenose! Congrats
I'd like to second that Steve. We have top notch builders in our country lets hear about them good or bad! Lol
So lets see some posts from the boys stepping on stage.

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Recent pic of Tony

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[varking]

He's gonna get smoked in either LOL

I think Shannon will even have a difficult time but one thing Shannon has for him is he knows to bring total conditioning and he's uber balanced in his physique. No real weaknesses in my opinion. Of course, I am biased but I am also harsh so maybe not so biased lol

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Couldn't help myself Nate LOL

[varking]

Tony "The Batman" Sealre is getting ready for the Arnold's Ill be update some pictures when I get them. I think once again he will turn major heads.

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[Hosehead]

Lega have gotten downright massive.

[Hosehead]

His legs are ridiculous

[varking]

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[razorsedge]

Looking great here...I really liked his physique and stage presence at Nationals and think he as tons of upside...will follow the results to see what the judges south think of this physique...I think he will do even better with the the US judging criteria...hopefully we get a few(hint) last week shots....awesome work to all involved here...knock em dead down there

[Jeff]

lol, where did all the haters go? hate! I wish tony luck at the arnolds! also congrats on the new Universal ad..

[jack_krauser]

He is a monster for being only 22 !! I wish him best of luck at the show.

[varking]

flexonline.com/videos/training/tony-searle-2-weeks-out-arnold-classic-bodybuilding

just heard he is in the top 5 in LHW finals tomorrow! I got my money on Tony getting his pro card tomorrow!

[razorsedge]

awesome...I have a hunch you may be right on the card too....thanks for update

[steve_d]

Trying to find out about this show, and tony's class. I REALLY liked the way he was looking leading up to the show, just when I think I am rippped, I see tony's legs on facebook and realize I still have lots of work to get to that kind of conditioning.

I always have my doubts when it comes to these really high level shows obviously though - but I am glad to see him in the top 5. That said, I am looking at commentaries about the class - and not 1 comment about his physique, can I assume he was not a standout beyond making the callout? Here's hoping he does manage to pull an upset in this class...

Even still the heavyweight and / or super heavyweight would end up demolishing his chance for a pro card!!

[freaky abs]

The Light-Heavy Weight
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[c24lamp]

he's transformed so much in the last 2 years. hope he smashes the light heavies! really brought a nice package, full and conditioned!!

[steve_d]

congrats on the 5th place. Color looked a bit too dark? top 5 at the arnold amateur is awesome stuff! was up against some freaks

[Delt King]

Congrats for sure....he was right there size wise. Color was good i think he needed more sheen/oil to highlight his cuts in the light (from what i saw in the vid). Great accomplishment nonetheless.

[varking]

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I think the kids got the over all at Nationals!!! Best of luck to the rest of the boys lol

[Hosehead]

I've seen Tony training at my local piece of shit Goodlife a few times and although I knew he was a big boy I had no idea he looked this big on stage. I am very impressed with his lower back. His lats tie in very low, like Franco Columbu's. That's purely genetics, and what a gift it is. Congrats to Tony, well done.

[steve_d]

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I think the kids got the over all at Nationals!!! Best of luck to the rest of the boys lol



he's still got 3-4 years of good training and muscle maturity before he is ready for an overall at our nationals. Shape is just about there. Legs are ripped, glutes, hams, but he still has problems getting extremely dry in the back - particularly delts from what I am seeing. I am having a similar problem right now, but I think a few more weeks and they will dry out. Thats the problem with having a stand out body part (in his case legs) in terms of leaness, you forget about the other parts that are equally important.

Don't get me wrong, a kid that looks like this under 25 has a great future - but you have to remember all the guys with years of dieting experience, and that muscle maturity that is just undeniable on the nationals stage. The top 5 heavies from last year for instance, antoine vaillant, ron partlow, and of course the up and comers that we've yet to even see at the nationals stage that are ready to pull a mike johnson (Overall winner last year).

[Diurediculous]

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I don't know how much drier or mature from the back you can expect the kid to be. He would make a great 212 class pro. He's already got a reputable sponsor behind him... it would be good for Canada to bring some youth and life to the under 212 class. I remember seein stage shots of this kid from last year and its night and day. Guy makes improvements at an astounding rate. I wouldn't count him out of the pro card running. In fact I'd say he deserves one.

[phatkid77]

id like to see him 192-195 absolutely peeled!!
i agree his color was too dark/thick...appeared to smooth him out... more sheen needed possibly as well... definitely cant sneeze at top 5 internationally
cant wait for the nationals

[steve_d]

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I don't know how much drier or mature from the back you can expect the kid to be. He would make a great 212 class pro. He's already got a reputable sponsor behind him... it would be good for Canada to bring some youth and life to the under 212 class. I remember seein stage shots of this kid from last year and its night and day. Guy makes improvements at an astounding rate. I wouldn't count him out of the pro card running. In fact I'd say he deserves one.

You'll see how much drier or maturity one can have at nationals. The kid is just young. You don't 'deserve' to be a pro because you have a sponsor. My point about drier or maturity is his delts and back, not the back of his legs or glutes. He's smooth in somre areas by todays pro standards THAT IS ALL I AM SAYING. Just look at some of the past champs who are pro now at his bodyweight... Pat Bernard, Rob Belisle, Vince Warwyck, Martin Allard... These guys are the definition of muscle density and maturity. Tony is on his way to being that. But to say he deserves it just because he is young and the 212 division needs 'life' is a little silly! If Canada had a dedicated under 212 overall champion pro card given out each year then YES, tony might be one to watch for... Although there are a few guys to challenge him...Larry Vinette, Greg Doucette, Zane Watson, Mike Lynds.... All guys who are under 212 who IMO would still be in line for a victory (as Tony closes the gap)...

[Diurediculous]

Martin allard and tony searle were head and shoulders above the rest at nationals. The Arnolds r the best in the world and he did more then hold his own many could make a arguement that he could of won class. With an exception to the poor colour at prejuding which was fixed for the night show the kid had amazing proportions size density and conditioning. He just comes in harder and drier every show. I can easily see him walking away with a class win this year and quite possibly and overall title with that kind of physique. I remember reading on this forum before nationals last year that the kid was going to get smoked get a huge eye opener came 2nd in canada same thing about the arnolds kid came 5th in the WORLD. Discredit his sucesses and blow up his failures but i think once again tony will be having alot of people take back some things they have said about him.

[Diurediculous]

I know tony personally and he is the first one to dwell on his weak points and be worried about other competitors. I see him once a month or so and everytime he is complaining about the same body parts and killing himself to bring them up u dont come top 5 at the arnolds on hopes and dreams and a sponsorship! Also to the experience of dieting he has 9 shows to his credit by 22 and has dialed it in better and better each. the future is now and its tony searle coming in at nationals winning his pro card to take the ifbb 212 by storm for canada

[steve_d]

Cool stuff. I hope your right... But honestly I don't really disagree with anything you say. The kid has potential - he may even be the one to take the elite showdown and get his pro card that way , this year even. I am not going to disagree with you on that either. Slow and steady wins the race in my mind, and honestly I think thats the approach he's taken so far which is a good thing. Too many young guys blow out early and I don't think that is the case with Tony. I think in 2-3 years he will be the new Pro in canada. Maybe sooner, who knows. I guess that depends how conditioned he can get. I know its hard as hell to get ripped. Mentally and physically! Perhaps a little time off can help too... If I were tony, I'd just plan to win in 2013.

[phatkid77]

I know Tony too, and he is good ambassador, always encouraging and positive towards others.. He's not self centred, which is refreshing..
Personally I think he's pretty jacked as is, no glaring weakness...just come in like an onion front and back, top and bottom.. I can't get a str8 answer out of him if he uses someone to dial in or not.. Lol. If I was that close I'd pay the money and say "get me there!" And trust:)

[natenator]

With exception of his past two shows, Tony was notorious for blowing his conditioning and it was based on those assessments as to why people (including me) were critical of him and for good reason. No one ever doubted his potential, although one could argue at like 5'5-5'6 his potential is limited but his potential is tremendous. All we wanted to see was some conditioning consistency from the guy and we've had that in the past two shows so hopefully he can keep it going.





Martin allard and tony searle were head and shoulders above the rest at nationals. The Arnolds r the best in the world and he did more then hold his own many could make a arguement that he could of won class. With an exception to the poor colour at prejuding which was fixed for the night show the kid had amazing proportions size density and conditioning. He just comes in harder and drier every show. I can easily see him walking away with a class win this year and quite possibly and overall title with that kind of physique. I remember reading on this forum before nationals last year that the kid was going to get smoked get a huge eye opener came 2nd in canada same thing about the arnolds kid came 5th in the WORLD. Discredit his sucesses and blow up his failures but i think once again tony will be having alot of people take back some things they have said about him.

[varking]

Steve how can you tell someone to plan on winning in 2013.... When most people step on stage they plan of winning if they don't they should just stay home!! If you aren't going there too win then stay home lol Either way Tony has a great chance to win. But lets all be fair Tony is top 4 bodybuilders (Not pro) in Canada!
When a guy at his level can sit down with anyone and say what his week points are (Chest) and what his best points are (Back) then they can go along way.
They call tony the "Batman" because he has a pro back!
Till the day Tony stop getting bigger and in better conditionfrom his last show I wont stop talking about him. Tony should and will be the talk in Canadian bodybuilding for now and along time to come. Look at this thread! Most post for a Canadian bodybuilder for a reason.
Also follow this guy on Facebook post some cool stuff http://www.facebook.com/tonysearle8

[Hosehead]

Aaron Baker, aka Batman, had a pro back. If Tony turns pro, and I think and hope he will, he will have a "pro" back. 29172

[steve_d]

Steve how can you tell someone to plan on winning in 2013.... When most people step on stage they plan of winning if they don't they should just stay home!! If you aren't going there too win then stay home lol Either way Tony has a great chance to win. But lets all be fair Tony is top 4 bodybuilders (Not pro) in Canada!
When a guy at his level can sit down with anyone and say what his week points are (Chest) and what his best points are (Back) then they can go along way.
They call tony the "Batman" because he has a pro back!
Till the day Tony stop getting bigger and in better conditionfrom his last show I wont stop talking about him. Tony should and will be the talk in Canadian bodybuilding for now and along time to come. Look at this thread! Most post for a Canadian bodybuilder for a reason.
Also follow this guy on Facebook post some cool stuff http://www.facebook.com/tonysearle8

all i meant is the guy needs to take some time off. I always say that (especially for young guys) you need to focus on training and not staying in contest prep mode all the time. I believe he's competed in 3 shows in under a year now dating back from ontario provincials in 2011. That left him with basically no off season. and then if he plans on doing nationals this year - that means what 20 weeks until show time? I truly feel he would benefit from waiting until 2013 to compete again. I don't think that is bad advice.

But I will add to that my 2 cents from something else that stuck out in this last post... when people plan on stepping on stage, they don't always think that winning is the only important thing, right? I don't believe this is true, and if it is that is the mistake that people have. there can only be 1 winner, and most shows, there is realistically only a few who have the honest expectation of winning. We compete to improve our physiques. If that occurs, its a win. Tony has a good chance to win considering he placed 2nd last go and the winner is now pro. Sure, but winning isn't everything. You have to plan ahead. Winning light heavy doesn't mean he wins a pro card. If I were in tony's shoes, I'd wait until I feel as though I will win the overall. I truly think that is NOT a possibility this year - especially for the points I mentioned. I've said my thoughts, many will agree, perhaps many won't.

[natenator]

Def agree and anyone who actually understands this sport and knows what frequent competing takes out of you will also understand.





all i meant is the guy needs to take some time off. I always say that (especially for young guys) you need to focus on training and not staying in contest prep mode all the time. I believe he's competed in 3 shows in under a year now dating back from ontario provincials in 2011. That left him with basically no off season. and then if he plans on doing nationals this year - that means what 20 weeks until show time? I truly feel he would benefit from waiting until 2013 to compete again. I don't think that is bad advice.

But I will add to that my 2 cents from something else that stuck out in this last post... when people plan on stepping on stage, they don't always think that winning is the only important thing, right? I don't believe this is true, and if it is that is the mistake that people have. there can only be 1 winner, and most shows, there is realistically only a few who have the honest expectation of winning. We compete to improve our physiques. If that occurs, its a win. Tony has a good chance to win considering he placed 2nd last go and the winner is now pro. Sure, but winning isn't everything. You have to plan ahead. Winning light heavy doesn't mean he wins a pro card. If I were in tony's shoes, I'd wait until I feel as though I will win the overall. I truly think that is NOT a possibility this year - especially for the points I mentioned. I've said my thoughts, many will agree, perhaps many won't.

[freaky abs]

Tony stands a good chance of winning the light-heavy weight class this year, but he is not going to win the overall. He does not have the best physique at the Canadian National stage right now. Antoine Vaillant, Zane Watson, Jerome Bravo and Alex Raymond are bigger threats to winning the Canadian overall title.

[Hosehead]

Tony stands a good chance of winning the light-heavy weight class this year, but he is not going to win the overall. He does not have the best physique at the Canadian National stage right now. Antoine Vaillant, Zane Watson, Jerome Bravo and Alex Raymond are bigger threats to winning the Canadian overall title.

Vaillant would be beaten by Tony if Tony came in as well conditioned. Vaillant has a great build but a very poor chest. I checked out his website and although he lists his measurements he curiously leaves out his chest measurement N/A. IMO only his arms are superior to Tony's. I may be wrong but put them side by side and Searle wins.

[freaky abs]

Vaillant would be beaten by Tony if Tony came in as well conditioned. Vaillant has a great build but a very poor chest. I checked out his website and although he lists his measurements he curiously leaves out his chest measurement N/A. IMO only his arms are superior to Tony's. I may be wrong but put them side by side and Searle wins.
Tony cannot compete against the Heavyweights. Last time he competed as a Heavyweight at the 2011 OPA Ontario Championships, he came in 7th. He had to drop down the Light-heavy weight to be competive, because he gets blown away when he competes in the heavyweight class. So I do not know how he is going to beat the heavyweights for the overall, when he cannot beat them competing as a heavyweight.

[steve_d]

Tony cannot compete against the Heavyweights. Last time he competed as a Heavyweight at the 2011 OPA Ontario Championships, he came in 7th. He had to drop down the Light-heavy weight to be competive, because he gets blown away when he competes in the hevyweight class. So I do not know how he is going to beat the hevyweights for the overall, when he cannot beat them competing as a heavyweight.

I can't help but jump in again here...In tonys defence, he gets blown away as a heavy because he is fat when he is a heavy. Doesn't mean he can't compete against them when he is a ripped light heavy. A ripped light heavy with good proportions can always hold their own against heavy and superheavys. That said, Tony isn't one of them yet! In condition, he is what I think would still be a middle by the old cut-offs. I really don't understand the world's fascination with Tony. He's good, and potentially going to be great. But I think too many people are talking about him like he's the next big thing in Canada. Where is the love for the other canadians!? Just like you mentioned Freaky Abs, I agree with all your picks: Antoine Vaillant, Zane Watson, Jerome Bravo and Alex Raymond ... And there are others! Matt Tsinkorang is another that comes to mind. Ron Partlow, and there will always be some more up and comers - John Aeillo with some added maturity and leaness. Matthew Roberts was another from Ontario who really has a pleasing physique... Countless competitors.

I guess Tony is just marketable and does a good job at marketing. Nothing wrong with that though - but I like to keep things in perspective. Marketability can only get you so far. The judges *should* not care when it comes down to scoring the champion about who is most marketable.

[natenator]

It's not Tony creating the hype. Its the nuthuggers who are and unfortunately he gets saddled with their nonsense.


I can't help but jump in again here...In tonys defence, he gets blown away as a heavy because he is fat when he is a heavy. Doesn't mean he can't compete against them when he is a ripped light heavy. A ripped light heavy with good proportions can always hold their own against heavy and superheavys. That said, Tony isn't one of them yet! In condition, he is what I think would still be a middle by the old cut-offs. I really don't understand the world's fascination with Tony. He's good, and potentially going to be great. But I think too many people are talking about him like he's the next big thing in Canada. Where is the love for the other canadians!? Just like you mentioned Freaky Abs, I agree with all your picks: Antoine Vaillant, Zane Watson, Jerome Bravo and Alex Raymond ... And there are others! Matt Tsinkorang is another that comes to mind. Ron Partlow, and there will always be some more up and comers - John Aeillo with some added maturity and leaness. Matthew Roberts was another from Ontario who really has a pleasing physique... Countless competitors.

I guess Tony is just marketable and does a good job at marketing. Nothing wrong with that though - but I like to keep things in perspective. Marketability can only get you so far. The judges *should* not care when it comes down to scoring the champion about who is most marketable.

[varking]

Steve people talk about Tony like he is the best because hes the only 22yrs old bodybuilder competing 2-3 times a year and growing. Why can't you see the two top bodybuilder in Canada are Antoine Vaillant and Tony searle. One because they are young and completing against guys 5-10yrs older. Last time I checked Zane and Alex or any of those other guys aren't in flex or MD.... Id say this is because at the end of the day these two guys are and will be better bodybuilders!

Id say Zane Watson will be 2nd-4th place at best in his class
AS for Alex Rymond If he is top 6 in his class that would be great for him!

I think and I know alot of guys will agree with me on this one Jereme bravo, Antoine Vaillant, Ron partlow and Tony Searle will be the guys to watch!

[MsKingoftheGym]

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I know tony personally and he is they most humble, grateful , respectful people I have ever come across. I know for a fact he would rather spend his career as an underdog, cause that is where he does his best work...that being said...he is only going to the top...if this picture does not speak for itself ,i do not know what more i can say.......

[Stunna]

Im good friends with tony and we train few times a week so ill say what i think. If tony does nats this year as LHW and brings shape and condition i think he can win his class theres just not that many good LHW like few years back, i dont think hes saying hes gonna win the overall hes a smart guy and realistic too. Also you dont have to be mr.canada to get your pro card they give 2 or more sometimes and if everyone else isnt in shape he could possibly beat them you never know. Its funny how 6 months ago many people were hating on him at least some support him now, hes a quiet humble guy. Personaly if i was him i would wait till im 210 with some improvments and thickness hell be tough to beat.
peace

[steve_d]

personaly if i was him i would wait till im 210 with some improvments and thickness hell be tough to beat.
Peace

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[Hosehead]

Tony cannot compete against the Heavyweights. Last time he competed as a Heavyweight at the 2011 OPA Ontario Championships, he came in 7th. He had to drop down the Light-heavy weight to be competive, because he gets blown away when he competes in the heavyweight class. So I do not know how he is going to beat the heavyweights for the overall, when he cannot beat them competing as a heavyweight.

That was 2011, which means nothing now. IMO he beats Vaillant regardless of weight class. IMO of course. As for the other guys mentioned ? I dunno. Partlow is a beast but he keeps getting beaten year after year. Someone always shows up.

[freaky abs]

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[steve_d]

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cool if you could set up a pic with martin allard being VERY comparable to Mike J who was in the eyes of many not all that much dominant over Antoine. Ie, get MIKE J and martin allard side by side. You can see how martin allard makes tony look... Tony was not even in the same league. But Martin, mike J, renaldo gairy, and antoine were all neck and neck. Sure, we can say that was 2011, and now its 2012. But in 2011 nationals, Tony isn't in the same league as antoine. And its not like antoine isn't young either... If anything, people should start a thread about antoine lol - he is the more realistic pick for the next canadian pro.

[Hosehead]

Antoine's chest is terrible. Very thin through the rib cage. The rest of his build is pretty much flawless. Everyone has a weak point but IMO the chest , aside from Phil Heat's , cannot be a weak point if one is going to turn pro. People have been talking up Antoine for a couple of years now about him being a sure thing. I've seen it on most of the US forums too. He's had plenty of hype and he's yet to turn pro. Varking is over the the top in his praise - which is understandable because they are buddies. But he's the real deal as far as shape and genetics. Just add a few more lbs of quality muscle. Hams and arms could come up some.

[phatkid77]

lmao at Nate.. i said the exact thing to Blue the other day.....id tell my nutt huggers to stiffle it and let me take care of bizz. tony is very quiet, humble and realistic..lol
u can only bring the best package u can to the stage, u have no clue whos gunna show up on any given day

funny we talk about antoine..another pure freak... how old is he now..23? he was "CANADAs next pro" since age of 19.. .but it is yet to happen... im sure it will but he, like anyone shooting for pro card...stars have to be alligned!!

the russian alexei yukov or whatever the hell..PURE freak...but not pro
phatz 2.0

[bluenose]

Wooof........I'm getting heart burn reading this!

Tony is getting better and I dont think people will deny that at all, but like everyone else out there he has weak body parts. Overall thickness and roundness to his muscles that will come with only time and maturity. Thicker inner thighs and not just bringing his hams up, but overall leg development and etc. The biggest thing that will and has been a problem for Tony is nailing his condition. With the exception of last year and this year at the Arnolds he looked the best he ever has. Last year at the Nationals being his best condition! So, if he can get his condition down then yes he stands a chance of winning his class. The thing is as Tony is improving, but everyone else is as well! Every year someone will crawl out of the woodwork and will turn heads. Tony needs to capitalize on his exposure and his second place win last year or someone else will take advantage of him not being in his best shape. Now is the time to secure his spot at the National stage to take it to the next level.
As far as the nuthuggers your doing your friend an injustice coming on here saying he will win this and that and the pro card is his at every show! This looks bad on Tony and people will associate your views by being Tony's own personal views. Just let the guy compete and support him and be realistic with him. If he does shitty be honest and tell him you look like a water buffalo you need to tighten up! That will help him in the long run.....if you think he spot on then he need to be 20% tighter. For Example the Arnold I felt if Tony was 5-7 pounds lighter and was full (a proper carb up) so his muscles were pushing against his skin he would have done better. Like I said to Phats he needs to suffer while dieting. When he does you will see a better package for sure. He needs to buckle down and get that face looking like a hundred year old man and suck it in!
You could look at so many guys out there that havent competed in a few years that could step on stage and clean house . SS would probably agree if Baz showed up as a pealed light heavy or heavyweight hands down no one could touch him! But unfortunately that wont happen LOL..... too bad though!

[steve_d]

People have been talking up Antoine for a couple of years now about him being a sure thing. I've seen it on most of the US forums too. He's had plenty of hype and he's yet to turn pro.

Yeah, and while everyone was nut hugging Antoine for being the next pro to come out, I sat down and said, wait about 6-8 years and then he'll be the one to watch. Even 2-3 years ago people STILL talked about him like he was the next one in line. Back in 09 I believe. And even then, I said, nope...not yet. People seem to get so far ahead of themselves when they start predicting the next big thing. So I was right way back when I said Antoine wasn't gonna take the world by storm (yet) and I am right about Tony as well. Antoine's turn is coming up soon...maybe 2-3 years.Tony, shortly after that. That's my best case scenario. And if it happens sooner because of some dumb elite showdown pro card that cbbf 'gives' away, then you can kiss his future goodbye, because he'll have turned pro to early, and unless he seriously steps down and puts on some years of maturity and conditioning, hes just not the one to be canada's next big pro. But let's be realistic - even when that time comes, the career will be shortlived as a pro. I mean, there are only a handfull of guys from Canada who are successful as pros... You gotta be RIDICULOUS... (ex. Pakl-man, Fouad) and even then, you're lucky to place top 3 in a small pro show. Tony has at least somewhat of a chance with the 212 division though. I'll admit to that.



Like Bluenose said. You have to suffer. You have to feel and look like 100 year old man to do well on stage. If people say you look good in the gym a week out, that means you WON'T look good on stage. You have to look and feel miserable when it comes down to it! LOL... Sure, MR. Olympia looks pretty impressive a week out in the gym, but those guys are 250 pounds +. Us guys under 200 have to look and feel small, depleted, sick in the face, and miserable to look good on stage.

It's the reality of the sport, and I like that I am not the only one who thinks like that!

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I mean, there are only a handfull of guys from Canada who are successful as pros... You gotta be RIDICULOUS... (ex. Pakl-man, Fouad) and even then, you're lucky to place top 3 in a small pro show.




Why is that?

[varking]

Hey Number one nutt hugger here! LOL
Tony is a buddy of mine yes. But that being said Tony has what it take I think but like you all said time will tell.
On another note guys and girls lets get other guys competing in the Nations this years threads looking like this. etc post vids pics and so on
Get the hype going for this show. Make it fun
This is the best posting on here in awhile lot of the old timers are coming back to reply on this one I love it!
Phatz starting posting shit of Blue or Blue do it yourself! I want to see you rock it this year dude

But on an end note Canada has a lot of top guys. Its great NOW LETS SEE WHAT THEY ARE DOING!

[phatkid77]

im going nowhere fast...lol this much i know.. but im gunna look good when i get there... lol
blue is in still building foundation, i figure we will rock the masters...lol
blue is the nxt pro in 2013.. mark my words :p lol j/k
i think thats his gameplan...size, detail over nxt yr or 2...

phats

[razorsedge]

Agree that the posting can get fun and comparisons done with pics anywhere from 6-2 weeks out gets the hype happening....but...I think its better to be quiet and stay in the "unknown" or "unseen" zone and come in and crush it like some guys and gals did last year....nobody...I mean NOBODY...had the overall winner even close last year. Some of the same names we got popping up again were supposed to clean house...didn't happen.

We should roll it off of Tony's thread and get a Nationals 2012 thread going too if we're gonna get it started 21 weeks out....seems a bit soon to me but some people like to place their bets early...lol

[steve_d]

Why is that?

what I am saying is you have to look ridiculous (as in insane, freaky, huge, shredded) to be a successful pro. And in canada there are only a handful of those guys. Why is that? Part of it is that our population is smaller, therefore its just the law of numbers. We have 1/10th the population of the states, and statistically speaking we'd therefore have about 1/10th the number of guys who excel on the top stage as the US. In fact, we're not that far off on those numbers.

Aside from that, sport in canada simply isn't as popular as it is in the US. not just bodybuilding, but all sports *(aside from hockey!!)

[varking]

im going nowhere fast...lol this much i know.. but im gunna look good when i get there... lol
blue is in still building foundation, i figure we will rock the masters...lol
blue is the nxt pro in 2013.. mark my words :p lol j/k
i think thats his gameplan...size, detail over nxt yr or 2...

phats

I saw those pictures on here if that's going nowhere fast then id love to jump on the shit! Looking good dude!
I think dianasauce should make a return on here that guy always had funny posts lol

[bluenose]

I saw those pictures on here if that's going nowhere fast then id love to jump on the shit! Looking good dude!
I think dianasauce should make a return on here that guy always had funny posts lol

Well who ever helped out phats for three weeks and 40 pounds later dosent know shit! :)

[phatkid77]

Nope.. Flew by the seat of my pants I did.. And it was only 34lb.. Pump the brakes coach..haha
And nuthugger#1...2 a day cardio sucks balls.. And diana-sauce was over cooked on the barbie..:)

[natenator]

Well who ever helped out phats for three weeks and 40 pounds later dosent know shit! :)

We don't need anymore nuthugging on here dude lol

[bluenose]

We don't need anymore nuthugging on here dude lol

Lol....... I probably get sick of hearing myself anyway! :)

[Diurediculous]

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