how do some guys get so big

[viper00]

how do some guys you see at the gym get so big. i mean biceps so damn big. not just big bicep but jsut big. i mean workout my arms and i still dont that big. i also take protein. i work out like 3xs a wk approx for 1 hr approx and i do everything . chest, bicep , shoulders.....etc

or how do you get bigger biceps and arms. i done it all from bicep curls with the dumbell to the preacher curl.....etc

[cog]

No legs and back on that body of yours?

[Praetorian]

Its simple really...you need to do the things most guys are NOT willing to do...
1. Lift heavy weights...like Ronnie says "everyone wants to be a bodybuilder, but nobody want to lift no heavy ass weights!" Heavy weight means double body weight bench press, squats, dead lifts for reps! Are you benching 405? are you squatting 495lbs? are dead lifting 495lbs...all for reps...if not you better get bloody busy!
2. Eat a tonne of balanced meals...eat every 2.5-3 hours...6-8 balanced meals per day, every day, every week, every year for 5 years minimum...I know I know you a tonne and your diet is perfect....WRONG...sorry if you did eat enough youd already be big...start eating!
3. Get plenty of sleep (8 hours nightly) limiting partying, drinking, staying out late etc
4. Push beyond the pain starting line...most guys barely reach the starting line and the give up when it comes to intensity...just when the pain starts...thats the beginning...thats when you hit the red button...most guys shut it down at that point
5. When you hit the gym its all business...no chit chat bullshit with your buddies, no chatting up the ladies, no CELL phones in the gym....and if i have to even tell you that forget about ever gettin big right now!
6. Understand that getting big means sacrifice, blood, sweat, and tears....its alot of pain so dont ask for something unless you really really want it.

P

[z83]

its simple really...you need to do the things most guys are not willing to do...
1. Lift heavy weights...like ronnie says "everyone wants to be a bodybuilder, but nobody want to lift no heavy ass weights!" heavy weight means double body weight bench press, squats, dead lifts for reps! Are you benching 405? Are you squatting 495lbs? Are dead lifting 495lbs...all for reps...if not you better get bloody busy!
2. Eat a tonne of balanced meals...eat every 2.5-3 hours...6-8 balanced meals per day, every day, every week, every year for 5 years minimum...i know i know you a tonne and your diet is perfect....wrong...sorry if you did eat enough youd already be big...start eating!
3. Get plenty of sleep (8 hours nightly) limiting partying, drinking, staying out late etc
4. Push beyond the pain starting line...most guys barely reach the starting line and the give up when it comes to intensity...just when the pain starts...thats the beginning...thats when you hit the red button...most guys shut it down at that point
5. When you hit the gym its all business...no chit chat bullshit with your buddies, no chatting up the ladies, no cell phones in the gym....and if i have to even tell you that forget about ever gettin big right now!
6. Understand that getting big means sacrifice, blood, sweat, and tears....its alot of pain so dont ask for something unless you really really want it.

P

quoted for truth

[TopHatPlus]

Its simple really...you need to do the things most guys are NOT willing to do...
1. Lift heavy weights...like Ronnie says "everyone wants to be a bodybuilder, but nobody want to lift no heavy ass weights!" Heavy weight means double body weight bench press, squats, dead lifts for reps! Are you benching 405? are you squatting 495lbs? are dead lifting 495lbs...all for reps...if not you better get bloody busy!
2. Eat a tonne of balanced meals...eat every 2.5-3 hours...6-8 balanced meals per day, every day, every week, every year for 5 years minimum...I know I know you a tonne and your diet is perfect....WRONG...sorry if you did eat enough youd already be big...start eating!
3. Get plenty of sleep (8 hours nightly) limiting partying, drinking, staying out late etc
4. Push beyond the pain starting line...most guys barely reach the starting line and the give up when it comes to intensity...just when the pain starts...thats the beginning...thats when you hit the red button...most guys shut it down at that point
5. When you hit the gym its all business...no chit chat bullshit with your buddies, no chatting up the ladies, no CELL phones in the gym....and if i have to even tell you that forget about ever gettin big right now!
6. Understand that getting big means sacrifice, blood, sweat, and tears....its alot of pain so dont ask for something unless you really really want it.

P

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[rated_rko]

well said

[razorsedge]

Its simple really...you need to do the things most guys are NOT willing to do...
1. Lift heavy weights...like Ronnie says "everyone wants to be a bodybuilder, but nobody want to lift no heavy ass weights!" Heavy weight means double body weight bench press, squats, dead lifts for reps! Are you benching 405? are you squatting 495lbs? are dead lifting 495lbs...all for reps...if not you better get bloody busy!
2. Eat a tonne of balanced meals...eat every 2.5-3 hours...6-8 balanced meals per day, every day, every week, every year for 5 years minimum...I know I know you a tonne and your diet is perfect....WRONG...sorry if you did eat enough youd already be big...start eating!
3. Get plenty of sleep (8 hours nightly) limiting partying, drinking, staying out late etc
4. Push beyond the pain starting line...most guys barely reach the starting line and the give up when it comes to intensity...just when the pain starts...thats the beginning...thats when you hit the red button...most guys shut it down at that point
5. When you hit the gym its all business...no chit chat bullshit with your buddies, no chatting up the ladies, no CELL phones in the gym....and if i have to even tell you that forget about ever gettin big right now!
6. Understand that getting big means sacrifice, blood, sweat, and tears....its alot of pain so dont ask for something unless you really really want it.

P

You should be standing at a podium when you make that speech...bravo!!!

[JMP]

Well Said P , there for sure is no "easy" button to this !



Its simple really...you need to do the things most guys are NOT willing to do...
1. Lift heavy weights...like Ronnie says "everyone wants to be a bodybuilder, but nobody want to lift no heavy ass weights!" Heavy weight means double body weight bench press, squats, dead lifts for reps! Are you benching 405? are you squatting 495lbs? are dead lifting 495lbs...all for reps...if not you better get bloody busy!
2. Eat a tonne of balanced meals...eat every 2.5-3 hours...6-8 balanced meals per day, every day, every week, every year for 5 years minimum...I know I know you a tonne and your diet is perfect....WRONG...sorry if you did eat enough youd already be big...start eating!
3. Get plenty of sleep (8 hours nightly) limiting partying, drinking, staying out late etc
4. Push beyond the pain starting line...most guys barely reach the starting line and the give up when it comes to intensity...just when the pain starts...thats the beginning...thats when you hit the red button...most guys shut it down at that point
5. When you hit the gym its all business...no chit chat bullshit with your buddies, no chatting up the ladies, no CELL phones in the gym....and if i have to even tell you that forget about ever gettin big right now!
6. Understand that getting big means sacrifice, blood, sweat, and tears....its alot of pain so dont ask for something unless you really really want it.

P

[dangit]

Two hour leg workouts and your arms and the rest of ya will grow ;) Plus eat like a pig and it's no ones business. If you're not eating 5000+ cals a day, then you just wont grow. I see guys in the gym always doing arms and forearms and not much else and never growing. I don't think I've ever done a forearm workout. Waste of time really when you could be doing a compound exercise.

[TopHatPlus]

Two hour leg workouts and your arms and the rest of ya will grow ;) Plus eat like a pig and it's no ones business. If you're not eating 5000+ cals a day, then you just wont grow. I see guys in the gym always doing arms and forearms and not much else and never growing. I don't think I've ever done a forearm workout. Waste of time really when you could be doing a compound exercise.

I use weighted dips as my fore arm work out and it is spectacular! I do arms at the end of my work outs so i get a good chest/back and core work out, and i don't find a 235 lb bench, 305 lb dips, 35 hand stand push ups, weighted chin ups and what ever else i get into is an arm work out so after all that i start arms, i do core in between every major lifting workout, and a set of legs in there =D

[cog]

305 lbs extra weight?

[Delt King]

305lbs dips.........Doesn't count if you don't show a vid of it lol.

[cog]

Glad you said it.

[TopHatPlus]

total weight, 140 + 165, if you don't believe then thats your issue, but the 10 people that almost knocked themselves out on the olypticals watching me do it on sunday morning? Priceless, i would have photos/videos but i workout alone 98% of the time, and it hard to take a photo and do a lift...


arranges in the pattern, 5, 10, 45, 45, 45, 10, 5 with the chain strung through the middle. Havving the smaller weights on the outside helps avoid chain pinch (which HURTS LIKE HELL) and i entire the dip rack on an angle cause i have short legs and its pretty wide >_<

[natenator]

You cant squat more than 155lbs but you can dip 165lbs? (discounting bodyweight in both exercises)

[Stoneco|d]

Most people I see don't do dips properly. They do half assed dips which does jack shit. Dips are my favorite tricep exercise. I work my way up to 135lbs + bw for 6. It also helped build my chest too.

[TopHatPlus]

You cant squat more than 155lbs but you can dip 165lbs? (discounting bodyweight in both exercises)

That is correct, i was unfortunately born with severe arthritis, in both hips, knees, and ankles, and i get SEVERE pain with strenuous leg lifting, so i do what i can and i do cardio when i cannot. My upper body was not effected to the same extent so i push as hard as i can, for the record i hit those numbers every other day. You are welcome to come see =D

[TopHatPlus]

Most people I see don't do dips properly. They do half assed dips which does jack shit. Dips are my favorite tricep exercise. I work my way up to 135lbs + bw for 6. It also helped build my chest too.

Agreed, i get down to a 90 degree on max weight and lower with less weight, i have seen substantial improvement in fore arm and lower peck size in the few months i have been doing it, second would be the tricep and then shoulder.

[Stoneco|d]

You cant squat more than 155lbs but you can dip 165lbs? (discounting bodyweight in both exercises)

I am 100% sure he doesn't go low enough. Triceps stronger than his LEGS lool, no ****ing way ... not in a million years.

[Stoneco|d]

Agreed, i get down to a 90 degree on max weight and lower with less weight, i have seen substantial improvement in fore arm and lower peck size in the few months i have been doing it, second would be the tricep and then shoulder.

Go that low or you put too much weight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbQZ_h-xXZw


(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbQZ_h-xXZw)

[GYMBRAT]

its all about ROM when doing dips or mays well stick with push downs

[TopHatPlus]

Heres me with my belt, what you got to say now? (my new gym shirt btw)

[cog]

Gay

[Stoneco|d]

Heres me with my belt, what you got to say now? (my new gym shirt btw)

lol naa you can't dip 305 full range of motion, sry dude

[natenator]

WTF am i seeing? Is that a pink string shirt and pink socks? Pretty sure i saw some blond chic at the gym wearing the exact same shirt.
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[cog]

lol naa you can't dip 305 full range of motion, sry dude

Would really like to hear if you have ever done dips with the rings and your experience regarding that.

[TopHatPlus]

lol naa you can't dip 305 full range of motion, sry dude

Can you get out of a chair?

Not that i have any particular need to prove anything >_< i just got quite a chuckle. We all have "our things" and i doubt to many of you can jump on a bicycle and do a 50 km ride in under and hour to warm your legs up.... Its what i do =D

[TopHatPlus]

Would really like to hear if you have ever done dips with the rings and your experience regarding that.

Quite intrigued by this... I have actually requested gymnast rings at my gym, i can rotate myself upside down and do hand stand push ups on the dip rack and have had a few trainers ask if i had ever done rings... no i have not. Yes i would LOVE to try them!

[Stoneco|d]

Would really like to hear if you have ever done dips with the rings and your experience regarding that.

Nope just regular dips and bench dips. Rings would give you amazing stability and activate entire upper body I guess. My gym doesn't have rings, I would like to try it though.

[cog]

Nope just regular dips and bench dips. Rings would give you amazing stability and activate entire upper body I guess. My gym doesn't have rings, I would like to try it though.
A pair of those looped 2 inch wide straps from princess auto will do.Love my rings.

[viper00]

what can i eat that can make me get bigger but doesnt cost a lot of money and not a lot of time to prepare. any stuff. other than drinking protein and gainer drinks

[Andre Gregoire]

Eggs, Ground Beef, Cottage Cheese, Whole Chickens, Oats, Potatoes, Nuts, Rice, Olive Oil, etc..

[beretta96]

I realize this thread is old and stolen, but I have to ask..... how does a guy with arthritis in his hips, knees and ankles ride a bike for 50K under an hour for a warm up?


Can you get out of a chair?

Not that i have any particular need to prove anything >_< i just got quite a chuckle. We all have "our things" and i doubt to many of you can jump on a bicycle and do a 50 km ride in under and hour to warm your legs up.... Its what i do =D

[cog]

A few guys have ridden 50 K in a velodrome,but they have to deal with wind resistance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hour_record

[Gemini]

Have not been on this website in quite a while... I miss these kind of posts that give me inspiration. That's why I'm back on here, been missing motivation lately. Great post man!

Its simple really...you need to do the things most guys are NOT willing to do...
1. Lift heavy weights...like Ronnie says "everyone wants to be a bodybuilder, but nobody want to lift no heavy ass weights!" Heavy weight means double body weight bench press, squats, dead lifts for reps! Are you benching 405? are you squatting 495lbs? are dead lifting 495lbs...all for reps...if not you better get bloody busy!
2. Eat a tonne of balanced meals...eat every 2.5-3 hours...6-8 balanced meals per day, every day, every week, every year for 5 years minimum...I know I know you a tonne and your diet is perfect....WRONG...sorry if you did eat enough youd already be big...start eating!
3. Get plenty of sleep (8 hours nightly) limiting partying, drinking, staying out late etc
4. Push beyond the pain starting line...most guys barely reach the starting line and the give up when it comes to intensity...just when the pain starts...thats the beginning...thats when you hit the red button...most guys shut it down at that point
5. When you hit the gym its all business...no chit chat bullshit with your buddies, no chatting up the ladies, no CELL phones in the gym....and if i have to even tell you that forget about ever gettin big right now!
6. Understand that getting big means sacrifice, blood, sweat, and tears....its alot of pain so dont ask for something unless you really really want it.

P

[cog]

I think maybe TopHat died doing weighted dips.

[Hosehead]

I think maybe TopHat died doing weighted dips.

I still can't get over the fact that this thread contains the single most gay photo on the internet.

[ironwill]

TRUTH my god!!!!^^^^ posted with pride as well...he posed ....lolol

[scottlove]

I still can't get over the fact that this thread contains the single most gay photo on the internet.What does he think this is.....Bodybuilding.com?

[MIAGIONJUS]

^^^^ LOL ^^^^ I second that, the gay part i mean

[Delt King]

LOL i had to look back in the thread to see that pic. Epic. haha.

[GYMBRAT]

Its just as funny the second time around!!!! LOL

[cog]

Its just as funny the second time around!!!! LOL


And a third time.We never did see any vids of his feats.He posted some YouTube unicycle stuff I never looked at.Unless it was on ice or on top of a twenty foot wall nobody would watch.

[tiramisu]

I liked Praetorian's original post BUT there are big dogs and little dogs. There are also big men and little men. If you are a Kenyan distance runner you may not have the genetics to put on big muscle. If you are fine boned you probably won't be the size of Ronnie Coleman. If you aren't doing a fair amount of steroids you likely won't be bigger then an elite athlete like Bob Paris. Yes I know he's incredibly gay but still one of the best physiques in that not quite achievable 220 pounds of stage muscle on a 6' bodybuilder is pretty darn amazing imo. Most people aren't really willing to put a solid 10 years in during their peak athletic years to explore their potential. 16 weeks to bigger abs isn't going to do it.

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[TT Eric]

Agreed ^ it take discipline:

-Work hard and intelligently,
-Eat the right food/supplements at the right time,
-Get proper rest to training ratio,
-Be consistent year after year and
-The most important: genetics!

Appropriate genetic will multiply the results of all the efforts put in the other factors.

Eric

[tiramisu]

It's also becoming pretty clear that how you express your genetics is very related to the effort you put in environmentally. I think it's kind of neat that you can actually modify epigenetics via external inputs (stamp out and abolish redundancy). Still not going to make a little dog a big dog but the genetic predispositions for disease, obesity, all appear to be modifiable with appropriate diet and exercise. Not just fighting to achieve your genetic "potential" but actually fundamentally changing the activation of genes in the body. Now if they could hurry up and cure old age and cancer I would be moderately satisfied.

[Praetorian]

The other question is...how do you know you have crappy genetics unless you have pushed yourself to the limit for years....answer you dont...and I dont mean pushed it hard while you talked on the phone in the gym and did your heavy set of cable crossovers to really pump it up!

Does this guy look like he has superior genetics?



P

[cog]

No but with a few months training he looked promising.

[TT Eric]

I remember training a guy, he was about 16y/o 130lbs and 2-3 years later he was 230lbs ish, it was amazing seeing the transformation, progress was so fast. As Prae says, you cannot see the genetic potential until you push it, but once you push it it does not take long to see which one has it, or not.

Eric

[actualnatural]

I think the biggest secret to getting big without using anabolics is to use hormones...generally people label it "organic" which is secret for a farmer with an 8th grade education who is using his "bro-science" to control your moods for the rest of your life. Its complete bs for guys like us who train for year after year and cant comprehend how these guys who just show up from no where... and they are already bigger than us..soon enough though the law in parliament will pass saying that its not only just illegal to sell but also illegal to have them..

[massabsamurai]

you can blame 'anything' but its been said many times, genetics is the key. If you look at some of the pro's before they started using AAS, you'll see how genetics play a major factor in their physiques.

[cog]

I think the biggest secret to getting big without using anabolics is to use hormones...generally people label it "organic" which is secret for a farmer with an 8th grade education who is using his "bro-science" to control your moods for the rest of your life. Its complete bs for guys like us who train for year after year and cant comprehend how these guys who just show up from no where... and they are already bigger than us..soon enough though the law in parliament will pass saying that its not only just illegal to sell but also illegal to have them..


Who cares if somebody out of nowhere is bigger.Look after your own body with an eye to the long term.Dont wreck your joints or your health.

[actualnatural]

ya... but not wrecking your joints means eating illegal meat which makes you scum of the earth

[cog]

Illegal meat?

[actualnatural]

check your freezer Ill bet its full of it brah

[actualnatural]

I get such a laugh out of you guys in your secret animal GH society say that "genetics" is the biggest thing...ITS BECAUSE YOUR TO BIG OF A B***h TO DO ANABOLICS!!!so you do the stupidest b*tch move and eat animal GH..genetics means nothing when your a farmer with an 8th grade educations science project

[massabsamurai]

None of what you said makes any sense to me, please go back to where you came from.

[actualnatural]

you guys have your own little secret GH society like the free masons who build churches for preists to molest little boys in

[cog]

Right now you make as much sense as somebody ranting about aliens putting stuff in your coffee.You need to explain yourself,it could be interesting.

[Hosehead]

you guys have your own little secret GH society like the free masons who build churches for preists to molest little boys in

Freemasonry is not a religion, they do not build churches. Priests are most often associated with the Catholic religion , but can exist in other religions as well. The Kights of Columbus are associated with Catholicism , not Freemasons.

[actualnatural]

GH meat is for slaves..every free mason Ive ever seen has baseball glove sized hands...grocery store meat is for masters

[Hosehead]

GH meat is for slaves..every free mason Ive ever seen has baseball glove sized hands...grocery store meat is for masters

Big hands are great for smashing in skulls.

[actualnatural]

GH meat is barbaric..look at japan they are 10 years in the future..and they are all small people..the fact is human don't need to be strong to build brick buildings anymore like Europe. if you eat that meat your a scared b*tch who doesn't think he can hold his own in a society that has banned any kind of physical fights

[cog]

So you're a vegetarian ?

[dainbramaged]

or a proponent for organic beef and other organic meats?

[actualnatural]

no, Im just da bomb

[instituteofper]

Every guy that's ever stepped into a gym, at one point or another, has had some aspiration to getting bigger. However, the age-old problem has always been—how to do it.

[Praetorian]

Its never been a problem, the issue is people are just not willing to do what is necessary, they have an excuse for everything.

P