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JifeLacket
23-07-2011, 05:34 PM
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1028828--at-least-80-killed-at-youth-camp-during-shooting-spree-norway-police-say?bn=1

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OSLO, NORWAY — A gunman dressed in police uniform opened fire at a youth camp of Norway's ruling political party on Friday, killing at least 80 people, hours after a bomb killed seven in the government district in the capital Oslo.

“The updated knowledge we are sitting on now is at least 80,” police chief Oystein Maeland told a news conference.

“We can't guarantee that won't increase somewhat,” he said.

Witnesses said the gunman, identified by police as a 32-year-old Norwegian, moved across the small, wooded Utoeya holiday island firing at random as young people scattered in fear. Norwegian television TV2 said the gunman, described as tall and blond, had links to right-wing extremism.

It was the biggest attack in Western Europe since the 2004 Madrid train bombings that killed 191.

“I just saw people jumping into the water, about 50 people swimming towards the shore. People were crying, shaking, they were terrified,” said Anita Lien, 42, who lives by Tyrifjord lake, a few hundred metres from Utoeya island, northwest of Oslo.

“They were so young, between 14 and 19 years old.”

Many sought shelter in buildings as shots echoed across the island, ran into the woods or tried to swim to safety. Boats searched for survivors into the night, searchlights sweeping the coast. Helicopters flew overhead.

Survivor Jorgen Benone, who was on the island at the time, said: “I saw people being shot. I tried to sit as quietly as possible. I was hiding behind some stones. I saw him once, just 20, 30 metres away from me. I thought 'I'm terrified for my life', I thought of all the people I love.”

Police seized the gunman, who they believed was also linked to the bombing, and later found undetonated explosives on the island, a pine-clad strip of land about 500 metres long, to the northwest of Oslo.

The bomb, which shook the city centre in mid-afternoon, blew out the windows of the prime minister's building and damaged the finance and oil ministry buildings. Stoltenberg was not in the building at the time.

“People ran in panic,” said bystander Kjersti Vedun.

With police advising people to evacuate central Oslo, and some soldiers taking up positions on the streets, the usually sleepy capital was gripped by fear of fresh attacks. Streets were strewn with shattered masonry, glass and twisted steel.

“It is the most violent event to strike Norway since World War Two,” said Geir Bekkevold, an opposition parliamentarian for the Christian Peoples Party.

“I have a message to the one who attacked us and those who were behind this,” Prime Minister Stoltenberg said in a televised news conference. “No one will bomb us to silence, no one will shoot us to silence.”

He declined to speculate on who had been involved.

NUPI Senior Research Fellow Jakub Godzimirski said he suspected a right-winger, rather than any Islamist group. Right wing groups have grown up in Norway and elsewhere in northern Europe around the issue of immigration.

“It would be very odd for Islamists to have a local political angle. The attack on the Labour youth meeting suggests it's something else. If Islamists wanted to attack, they could have set off a bomb in a nearby shopping mall rather than a remote island.”

Right-wing militancy has generated sporadic attacks in other countries, including the United States. In 1995, 168 people were killed when Timothy McVeigh detonated a truck bomb at a federal building in Oklahoma City.

Deputy Oslo police chief Sveining Sponheim told reporters that the gunman in the Utoeya shootings had been disguised in a blue police-style uniform but had never been a police officer.

Police searched a flat in west Oslo where the man lived, and evacuated some neighbours.

NATO member Norway has been the target of threats before over its involvement in conflicts in Afghanistan and Libya.

Violence or the threat of it has already come to the other Nordic states: a botched bomb attack took place in the Swedish capital Stockholm last December and the bomber was killed.

Denmark has received repeated threats after a newspaper published cartoons of the Prophet Mohammad in late 2005, angering Muslims worldwide.

In Oslo, the building of a publisher which recently put out a translation of a Danish book on the cartoon controversy was also affected, but was apparently not the target.

The Oslo district attacked is the very heart of power in Norway. Nevertheless, security is not tight in a country unused to such violence and better known for awarding the Nobel Peace Prize and mediating in conflicts, including the Middle East and Sri Lanka.

Talo
23-07-2011, 05:41 PM
Ruff day for Norway. This and the bombing killed lots of people.

gicantor
23-07-2011, 06:03 PM
Coward. Who shoots up a youth camp?

BAM
23-07-2011, 08:00 PM
Yes terrible killing children.

Have they said exactly what kind of youth camp it was?

JMP
23-07-2011, 08:53 PM
it was a kids camp Bam , what do you mean what "kind of camp? Any of us with kids know this has been the worst day in history for so many parrnts , my thoughts go out to all of them !
I cant imagine , my kids are my world , my reason for everything ,....so sad !



UOTE=BAM;420312]Yes terrible killing children.

Have they said exactly what kind of youth camp it was?[/QUOTE]

JifeLacket
23-07-2011, 09:12 PM
Yes terrible killing children.

Have they said exactly what kind of youth camp it was?

.... edit

BAM
23-07-2011, 10:09 PM
I didn't get from that article, that is was the children of politicians, only that the youth camp was sponsored by a political party.

JifeLacket
23-07-2011, 10:52 PM
Here is a photo of the island... Disgusting, supposedly he had the children gather around for an announcement or something and then opened up fire. Some think he ran out of ammo... horrible.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2011/7/23/1311392685347/Utoya-007.jpg

JifeLacket
23-07-2011, 10:55 PM
I didn't get from that article, that is was the children of politicians, only that the youth camp was sponsored by a political party.

You are correct.

Hours after bomb blasts shattered the holiday calm of downtown Oslo, a man arrived at Utoya island, 50 kilometres from the Norwegian capital, by ferry.

He was wearing a police uniform and packing several weapons, including at least one submachine gun and possibly a rifle.

The stranger beckoned to some of the 550 young people attending a summer camp organized by the youth wing of the ruling Labour Party.

“Come here,” he said, claiming he was performing a routine security check after a bomb blast hours earlier in downtown Oslo killed at least seven people and injured many others.

Once a sizeable group had gathered, the man — who looked like a typical Norwegian, with blond hair and spoke with an eastern Norwegian accent — said this was just the beginning and opened fire.

The campers, aged 15 to 25, scattered in panic, many throwing themselves in the water in an attempt to escape the island, which had no bridge to the mainland. Others cowered in nearby buildings.

A 16-year-old named Emma said she thought at first it was just somebody fooling around, but after she saw two people shot dead she realized it was serious.

“Me and my boyfriend Erik, we ran to the sea and we hid ourselves in [a cave]. After a while … we heard the gunshots right from above us and we could actually smell the — what’s it called? — the gunpowder and we were so scared so we just waited till he went away,” she told the BBC.

“We were probably five, eight metres from him — he was standing above us because it was like a cliff that we were under, trying to hide from him, and he was trying to shoot the people who were in the water trying to swim to the other side.”

Police said at least 80 people were killed, a number that is expected to rise as more bodies wash ashore.

Andre Skeie, 26, said he saw many corpses floating in the water as he arrived in Utoya by boat to help in the evacuation effort.

Aerial photographs showed clusters of tents set up in a small clearing on the otherwise leafy island.

Participants at the summer camp were enjoying what one man described as “a cross between a political camp and boy scouts.”

“It’s a political workshop; it happens every summer,” Ole Torp told the BBC.

Another witness said the camp was an opportunity for the younger party members to discuss its visions and goals, and described it as a place where campers made friends.

Jens Stoltenberg, the country’s Prime Minister, had reportedly been expected to deliver a talk, but he had cancelled before the gunman arrived.

Other campers had terrifying stories to tell.

Emilie Bersaas, 19, told Britain’s Sky News she hid under a bed after hearing gunshots outside her hut.

“There was a lot of shouting somewhere very close to the building I was hiding in. I just hid under the bed and was very terrified actually,” she said.

“There was at one point, the shooting was very, very close to the building. I think it actually hit the building one time.”

Some survivors took to the woods, or hid in washrooms. They communicated with each other and their families via text messages, though families were warned not to call their children’s cellphones for fear of alerting the killer to their whereabouts.

Grethe Helen Larre told the British newspaper The Independent she watched the drama through binoculars from the mainland.

“There were naked, pale bodies hiding behind bushes. A lot of people were in the water. They were swimming and trying to get away,” she said.

“Boats were picking people up from the water and shipping them over to our side of water where we tried to take care of them. I held one young man who had been shot; his leg was broken and he had open wounds from the shooting.

“We gave them blankets and tried to calm them down. They were all in a state of panic, crying. There were so many of them; youngsters down to the age of 13, youths, grown-ups. People were looking for their loved ones.”

An anti-terrorism unit was swiftly sent to the island.

Police said they had arrested a Norwegian man.

Sveinung Sponheim, the acting chief of police, said the suspect had been seen in Oslo before the explosions there.

“The police have every reason to believe there is a connection between the explosions and what happened at Utoya,” said a spokesman.

Police also said they found explosives on the island.

faller
24-07-2011, 01:02 AM
My God I can't imagin getting a text from my daughter saying someone was trying to kill her! The utter feeling of helplessness, don't even want to think about it..

scumbag
25-07-2011, 08:42 PM
They lower the body count to 76 from the 90 something the authorities had initially stated. His diary states that he was coming off a cycle too.
Hope this murderer rots in the Chokey.

cog
26-07-2011, 10:54 AM
They should roast this guy over a low fire on national TV.

faller
26-07-2011, 05:55 PM
His diary states that he was coming off a cycle too.


Seriously? A steroid cycle?

BAM
01-08-2011, 04:41 PM
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moh2010
01-08-2011, 05:13 PM
Seriously? A steroid cycle?

Yeah he mentioned many time steroids in his statement. Said he used them to make him stronger. 2 days after the killing, the medias was pointing steroids and call of duty(video game) to explain why he did that.... ridiculous!


***Also, in his statement, he said he used a cocktail of steroids and meds to give him more courage.

moh2010
01-08-2011, 05:18 PM
It make me so sick that the medias put so much details...

They interviewed a survivor from where the shout out began... The killer entered a room, dressed as a cop, with automatic weapons on both of his shoulders. A young 14 year old girl ask him: "Are you here because of what happened in Oslo? Did a bomb really exploded? He replied with a shot to her chest, then a bullet in head...". WTF! Why so much details? Dont they have respect for the victims?

BAM
01-08-2011, 08:32 PM
Yeah he mentioned many time steroids in his statement. Said he used them to make him stronger. 2 days after the killing, the medias was pointing steroids and call of duty(video game) to explain why he did that.... ridiculous!


***Also, in his statement, he said he used a cocktail of steroids and meds to give him more courage.

Apparently the real reason he did it was because he is a Zionist and that camp was having pro Palestinian activities. See video.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko8_aJ3yImg

cog
01-08-2011, 09:44 PM
So the Lib Left claims the guy is a fundamentalist Christian and the extreme right claims he's a Zionist terrorist.