Log in

View Full Version : Probiotics - and you thought it was just for digestion!



ScorpioChiq
04-06-2011, 04:50 PM
I am knee deep in research for a health book that I am currently helping to write and I thought I would share some of the studies/info on probiotics.

A 2010 study published in the British Journal of Nutrition found that probiotic bacteria improves insulin sensitivity by doing exactly that, reducing systemic inflammation. In a double-blinded study, forty-five males with type 2 diabetes, impaired or normal glucose tolerance were enrolled in a 4-week treatment course and given either an acidophilus pill (friendly gut bacteria) or a placebo. They found that insulin sensitivity was preserved among the group taking acidophilus, whereas it decreased in the placebo group. While the inflammatory markers tested went unchanged, insulin sensitivity did improve with no other changes in diet or activity levels.

Research from the Mayo Clinic (April 2008) found that metabolic activities of gut flora facilitate the extraction of calories from ingested dietary substances. Furthermore, they found that gut bacterial flora of obese mice and humans include fewer Bacteroidetes and correspondingly more Firmicutes (both a type of bacteria) than that of their lean counterparts, suggesting that differences in the way the body processes calories are impacted by the bacteria in your gut. These findings raise the question that gut flora may play a key role in regulating weight. The human body, consisting of about 100 trillion cells, carries about ten times as many microorganisms in the intestines and GI tract. And anything that affects nutrition absorption in turn impacts the expenditure of calories.

However not all probiotics are made equal. Look for a supplement with 10 to 15 billion cells per capsule and take 1-2 on rising, before breakfast. For the first month I recommend taking it upon rising and right before bed (both empty stomach). If you get a little gassy or bloated you can start slower. I am a fan of Ultra Flora Plus (dairy free) by Metagenics or Multi-Probiotic 4000 by Douglas Labs. I have used at least a dozen types of probiotics before but these ones are so good that both Praetorian and I actually notice a huge difference as soon as we run out. Next to a high potency fish oil (4-6 grams per day) and 4000 iu of vitamin D daily, I would put probiotics as an absolute MUST HAVE in your supplement arsenal.

cog
04-06-2011, 06:21 PM
So this is very new territory,sounds quite interesting.

Andre Gregoire
22-06-2011, 05:10 PM
Great post, it seems that anything that reduces systematic inflammation generally leads to better health and a reduction in your risk profile for several diseases like heart, diabetes, ms, etc...

RagingRandy
24-06-2011, 10:24 AM
I have heard that some of these need refrigeration and degrade rapidly if not kept cool. So, they should only be bought from a local store. Do the ones you mention require refrigeration? If so, ordering through the mail would be an issue.

JonnyO
24-06-2011, 12:25 PM
A good one should be kept cool yes.

Inflammation should be a major concern for many worried about cardiovascular disease and some would argue more important than elevated cholesterol.

IronMan
24-06-2011, 02:01 PM
What do you think of Enzymatic Therapy Pearls probiotics?

ScorpioChiq
26-06-2011, 07:46 PM
What do you think of Enzymatic Therapy Pearls probiotics?

I have tried these and never noticed a difference. Truth be told, until I tried the higher quality brands via naturopathic offices I really didn't know what the difference was between taking a probiotic and not. If you are in T.O. Healthy Planet carries Ultra Flora Plus DF (Dairy Free) by Metagenics which is the one I recommend.

Providing the bottle isn't kept in the heat or sun it's fine to leave out of the fridge for 3-5 days.
Take on an empty stomach (a must) otherwise taking it with a meal degrades the product.

natenator
26-06-2011, 08:10 PM
I have tried these and never noticed a difference. Truth be told, until I tried the higher quality brands via naturopathic offices I really didn't know what the difference was between taking a probiotic and not. If you are in T.O. Healthy Planet carries Ultra Flora Plus DF (Dairy Free) by Metagenics which is the one I recommend.

Providing the bottle isn't kept in the heat or sun it's fine to leave out of the fridge for 3-5 days.
Take on an empty stomach (a must) otherwise taking it with a meal degrades the product.

Other than in the morning, what bodybuider ever has an empty stomach? lol

#8
26-06-2011, 09:13 PM
I once read that waiting an hour or so after a (relatively normal portioned) meal counts as an "empty" stomach for those who need this in terms of medication or supplementation protocol. But yes, as nate said, its hard to have an empty stomach other than in the morning.

mambo#5
31-08-2011, 04:00 PM
Just a question but the bottle says to take with food. So how "degraded" would the absorption really be if you had it with say a shake or b/fast. Also recommends 1 capsule per day (Jamiesons : 10 bill.) with a meal. Thoughts ? Rationale ??

Thorgrim
02-09-2011, 10:10 PM
Hey ScorpioChiq,

You mentioned in your first post that you notice a huge difference between when you are and aren't taking the probiotics you recommended. What is it that you notice? Is it just a difference in digestion or are there other things?

ScorpioChiq
03-09-2011, 09:59 AM
You have to remember that digestion affects everything - if you don't optimize digestion (and excrete the waste you carry) you can't achieve fat loss goals, you retain too much waste, skin/hair looks bad and you retain water ... and then some. I notice a difference even if I miss it for a few days!

#8
03-09-2011, 04:50 PM
I started using the ones at costco (5 Billion per cap) at about 3-4 a day and I noticed an improvement in fat loss. All around improved gut feeling and less bloat. Definitely worth using.