Canada Post possible strike

[MuSuLPhReAk]

If you get your supplements online and are about to run out, it may be a wise time to reorder. Canada Post may go on strike next Wednesday (May 25th) if they can't reach an agreement.

Just a heads up.

[BAM]

I have a feeling they wont reach an agreement.

They have been closing satellite depots in my area.

[cog]

People might have to get their supplements local.

[#8]

As if those lazy gutless pigs arent already paid enough. In a world economy that is this unpredictable, any union worker threatening to strike should be shot and pissed on.

Their wages are MORE than fair, and their pension is unbelievable.

What a crock of shit.

[kawikaratekid]

All the frustration with the Canada Post workers but none directed to the owners of the oil companies, the bankers, or even GM. Shouldn't we be more concerned with those truly causing the economic crisis?

Not trying to lash out at you #8 but with all this going on in the world the people who truly control this crisis could give a rat's ass about the middle class... They're the ones who should be taking the cuts. I don't see that happening though.

[cog]

And Wall Street types are still arguing they don't need controls on their activities.

[faller]

And Wall Street types are still arguing they don't need controls on their activities.

You confuse me sometimes, left, right, left, right :confused:

You want to see the economy really go to hell in a basket? Throw up some more "controlls" ..

[natenator]

Why should oil companies be taking cuts? Just because gas is as high as it is? I disagree that they should be forced into taking cuts.

And, oil companies aren't causing economic crisis. Speculators are.

[natenator]

You really need to do some research on the topic. It's the regulation of the banking and investment communities which, by and large, caused this economic crisis.

[BAM]

What do you do for a living #8 to have such a tainted perspective on unions?

Are you angry that you can not treat them like shit on the job in your supervisor role? or are you jealous?

Did a union member screw your girl?

Tell us your sob story.

BTW, You probably just insulted a large portion of this board.

[BAM]

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[cog]

You confuse me sometimes, left, right, left, right :confused:

You want to see the economy really go to hell in a basket? Throw up some more "controlls" ..

Wall Street activities.Do you really want to see the U.S go through another bailout they can't afford.I didn't believe the bailout should have happened.You gamble you lose you pay.I don't believe speculators should be allowed into the oil supply chain.That won't affect day to day operations.Now I agree most gov employees aren't nearly productive enough that I can see,can't comment on CP employees.the way these unionized guys see it we shouldn't be trying to drag them down.Think about all the companies that screwed over the pension funds...or the way they collapse the value of your mutual funds....robbers.

[#8]

What do you do for a living #8 to have such a tainted perspective on unions?

Are you angry that you can not treat them like shit on the job in your supervisor role? or are you jealous?

Did a union member screw your girl?

Tell us your sob story.

BTW, You probably just insulted a large portion of this board.

Really? I highly doubt there are any posties on this board, or any civil servants for that matter.

I highly object to people with relatively cushy jobs that require ZERO education, training, or expertise going on strike. Ever.

It reminds me of the teachers work to rule campaign not long ago. Greedy pieces of overpaid shit who should be thankful for what they have. Many people would kill to have a postie job or any other of a similar sort.

That was the point I was trying to stress.

[cog]

I believe Mr.Ontario might be a CP guy.Teachers in Ontario appear to be the single greatest block of unionized millionaires in the world.

[BAM]

Cops, firemen, guards..

They are civil servants and they are all in unions and are ubiquitous on bodybuilding boards.

You are probably the only one not in a union.



Maybe you should direct your anger at postal workers themselves and not UNIONS in general.

[mouth]

You really need to do some research on the topic. It's the regulation of the banking and investment communities which, by and large, caused this economic crisis.

How so? Feel free to blast me here but, I thought the economic issues began when banks started the sub-prime mortgages...only to jack up interest rates soon(ish) after...which caused people to default on loans etc.

No, seriously, I'm not being a smart ass...for once...how would regulations prevented this?

And, I hate to agree with #8 but, I can kind of see his point. I think SOMETIMES, unions get too greedy and protect workers that shouldn't be protected. I have a good friend that works for Ford and tells me stories of some of the workers there. If it wasn't for the union a bunch of those guys would have (and should have) been fired a long time ago. Most of what unions were created for is now covered under the labour code. No disrespect to anyone in a union (both of my parents are and a lot of my friends are) but, I really don't see the same necessity in them nowadays as back when they were first brought in.

[BAM]

Yeah, but if there were no unions, you'd here some other crazy stories about asshole employers abusing employees.
(which is why unions were created in the first place)

[mouth]

And those employers would be brought up on charges.

[BAM]

by who? no union = no collective agreement so what did they breech? Sure, there are federal regulations, but you know where they originated from right?.. labour unions. In fact, that's why there is a minimum wage and a national health care system. The catalyst for many of these things were labour unions.

There are many ways for management to abuse, discriminate, intimidate, blackmail and harass without breaking the law.

Unions are also used to promote equity among workers and to not only protect workers from rogue managers/employers, but from other employees as well.

[faller]

Wall Street activities.Do you really want to see the U.S go through another bailout they can't afford.I didn't believe the bailout should have happened.You gamble you lose you pay.I don't believe speculators should be allowed into the oil supply chain.That won't affect day to day operations.Now I agree most gov employees aren't nearly productive enough that I can see,can't comment on CP employees.the way these unionized guys see it we shouldn't be trying to drag them down.Think about all the companies that screwed over the pension funds...or the way they collapse the value of your mutual funds....robbers.

Hey i'm no fan of corporate welfare... I just don't get how more regulation's are going to solve an already over regulated economy.

[Talo]

If it's what the majority wants then thats what should be done ( strike ) . I'm not sure on their demands and I'm also not sure on what they get now. I don't work there and I could care less if they stike or not. In the end if they do strike and it goes on for a long time they will lose lots of money , because the union sure wont take care of their needs while they are on the picket line.

[faller]

Funny how times change, when my wife worked there right out of school around 1979/80 there was a postal strike. It had a huge impact on the country. Now i bet most of the country couldn't care less. Hell if i didn't read it here i wouldn't even have known about it.

[moh2010]

from what I understood, its snail mail only (slow, surface mail). Does it mean it doesn't concern xpresspost and priority?

edit

I just called the post office and they confirmed that the service might be slower for slow mail, but xpresspost/priority won't be concerned.

[bcaamuscle]

Damn this will really hurt people in isolated places. I exclusively order online these days

[Thorgrim]

You confuse me sometimes, left, right, left, right :confused:

You want to see the economy really go to hell in a basket? Throw up some more "controlls" ..

People tend to lump stuff into left/right mindset but that ends up holding back intelligent thought. One can be anti-regulation, I am, but still think that banks need tight regulation to control their activities. Banks are large corporations and the decisions made by a few can have dramatic impact on entire countries. Corporations are not human and have no rights to infringe upon, they exist solely for the purpose of allowing people to make profit without the risk of liability for their actions.

When a man makes a decision that accidentally causes death to someone else they are often brought up on criminal charges. When a corporation makes decisions that lead to someones death, sometimes with full knowledge that what they are doing is wrong they might get a fine. When Banks make decisions that cause an economic collapse that leads to financial hardship for millions of people they get bailed out. See the disconnect?

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Agreement has been reached. No strike.

[L3]

good. now where the f- is my protein

[faller]

People tend to lump stuff into left/right mindset but that ends up holding back intelligent thought. One can be anti-regulation, I am, but still think that banks need tight regulation to control their activities. Banks are large corporations and the decisions made by a few can have dramatic impact on entire countries. Corporations are not human and have no rights to infringe upon, they exist solely for the purpose of allowing people to make profit without the risk of liability for their actions.

When a man makes a decision that accidentally causes death to someone else they are often brought up on criminal charges. When a corporation makes decisions that lead to someones death, sometimes with full knowledge that what they are doing is wrong they might get a fine. When Banks make decisions that cause an economic collapse that leads to financial hardship for millions of people they get bailed out. See the disconnect?

To me left and right is the same as right and wrong, there's no grey area for me. "holding back intelligent thought", no idea where you came up with that or what that even means.

The problem with "tight regulation" is it perpetuates more regulation when previous regulation's didn't work, that is more often the case than not depending on the flavour of the day. You want to control the banking system? Bring back the gold standard, Bye Bye bank of Canada, bye bye deficit.

Corporations damned well better be solely there to make profit, as a shareholder in R. J. Reynolds Tobacco Company i expect my dividends.. Get my point? A corporation isn't some mysterious entity, its you and me. They work within parameter's set up by, you guessed it, Government, yet everyone barks up the **** the corporation tree.

Yes i agree there are unscrupulous corporations, but they get away with some of the things you mentioned above because of a failed Gov. and failed law makers. Want to "control" corporations? Severely limit Gov. power, another words government falls into three broad categories: the police, to protect men from criminals - the armed forces, to protect men from foreign invaders - the law courts, to settle disputes among men according to objective laws. An enormously complex specific legislation true, the principle that the purpose of law and gov. is the protection of individual rights, which we don't have today. Without individual rights you have rule by brute force or what we like to call "consensus". Individual rights will grant you protection against unscrupulous corporations through objective law, not more regulations brought about by an corrupt government.

Give us protection from harm and let us do what we do best, trade with one another for mutual benefit. Free up economy and quit thinking it is something that can be controlled and regulated..

[Thorgrim]

I was trying to say that once you align yourself with a left or right mindset you are sort of expected to be consistent to that mindset on every issue when sometimes on certain issues it might not be what is best for society. Also it tends to divide people along political lines and gets people debating their political viewpoints when the real problem is as you pointed out corrupt and ineffective government.

I tend to have libertarian leanings myself and feel that the only function government should be engaged in is to protect society from criminals, that would include the large multinational corporate variety as well.

[cog]

To me left and right is the same as right and wrong, there's no grey area for me. "holding back intelligent thought", no idea where you came up with that or what that even means.

The problem with "tight regulation" is it perpetuates more regulation when previous regulation's didn't work, that is more often the case than not depending on the flavour of the day. You want to control the banking system? Bring back the gold standard, Bye Bye bank of Canada, bye bye deficit.

Corporations damned well better be solely there to make profit, as a shareholder in R. J. Reynolds Tobacco Company i expect my dividends.. Get my point? A corporation isn't some mysterious entity, its you and me. They work within parameter's set up by, you guessed it, Government, yet everyone barks up the **** the corporation tree.

Yes i agree there are unscrupulous corporations, but they get away with some of the things you mentioned above because of a failed Gov. and failed law makers. Want to "control" corporations? Severely limit Gov. power, another words government falls into three broad categories: the police, to protect men from criminals - the armed forces, to protect men from foreign invaders - the law courts, to settle disputes among men according to objective laws. An enormously complex specific legislation true, the principle that the purpose of law and gov. is the protection of individual rights, which we don't have today. Without individual rights you have rule by brute force or what we like to call "consensus". Individual rights will grant you protection against unscrupulous corporations through objective law, not more regulations brought about by an corrupt government.

Give us protection from harm and let us do what we do best, trade with one another for mutual benefit. Free up economy and quit thinking it is something that can be controlled and regulated..

We used to hear the same logic when it came to protecting the environment.Did you know that in the early 70's a scientist got funding to study the concept of the population living inside domes so we wouldn't have to worry about the pollution?