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perfection
20-04-2011, 09:31 PM
Stats: 5'9 170lbs bf% around 13
cycles: win 5 weeks clen 6weeks 2on2off,2nd cycle test prop primo clen(2on2off) 4 weeks var 5 weeks

Hey everyone I'm a model trying to get ready for a photo shoot and am looking to run tren ace test prop prov and mast...can I get some help on doses and what to use to keep sides off n also to keep my hair cuz last cycle kind of thined it out from the hair line abit......I do like my short cycles.........

Please and thank you

Praetorian
20-04-2011, 11:39 PM
If you are a model getting ready for a photo shoot the last thing you would ever need is tren. A good diet...I would recommend 8 weeks keto for efficiency and time as well as some clen and a bit of anavar is all you need to get shredded. You could add some T3 if you had a bit more fat to lose. Doing things this way would prevent large endocrine disturbances and recovery would be quick and painless. You are running clen incorrectly as well so that is not helping.
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perfection
21-04-2011, 02:50 AM
Hi prae thank you for your rply......my reason behind using tren was because it gives you a realy hard and ripped look a couple of models had taken it and came out really nice.....about the clen the 2off 2on is wrong?

perfection
21-04-2011, 04:03 AM
I'm also thinkin of adding Yohimbe and cytomix to this cycle

Praetorian
21-04-2011, 11:54 AM
If you are lean enough anavar will make you appear very hard...you dont need to be as hard as a competitive BB and tren will suppress your HPTA which will require aggressive PCT...ie HCG, clomid, Aromasin etc...it is complete overkill for what you are doing....getting your diet perfected and dropping significant BF will work much better with no sides and the var will have an overall hardening effect. Are you suggesting Yohimbe (Yohimburn) or Yohimbine HCL...two different things. HCL is very strong and the sides are nasty.
I would also suggest avoiding Cytomix as it is a combo drug containing 60mcg T3(active thyroid) and 20mcg T4(inactive)...the dose is too high to start with and the T4 is not going to do anything for you. If you are going to use a thyroid med than Cytomel is optimal as it is pure T3 and comes in 25mcg tabs. T3 needs to be ramped up very slowly and the same can be said about clen. 2 on 2 off is archaic....nobody does that anymore because the half life of clen is approx 36 hours. Run the clen straight thru for the entire diet but start low 20mcg twice daily and increase by 20mcg every two weeks until you hit 120mcg max. By doing this you will avoid receptor saturation.
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perfection
21-04-2011, 01:00 PM
Thank you P for the feed back it is greatly appreciated! I will not go for the mix I will go for just T3(run same as clen?) Thanks for clearing a lot of info up.......I will definitly take what you said into consideration only problem I have on hand is I had already bought the tren I will see if my source will allow me to do a switch since I haven't touched it but incase I can't .....I was thinkin proscar for hair aromaisin as a AI caber on hand mast for estro and prov and prop and yohimbi (burn is the one)

Praetorian
21-04-2011, 01:23 PM
Thank you P for the feed back it is greatly appreciated! I will not go for the mix I will go for just T3(run same as clen?) Thanks for clearing a lot of info up.......I will definitly take what you said into consideration only problem I have on hand is I had already bought the tren I will see if my source will allow me to do a switch since I haven't touched it but incase I can't .....I was thinkin proscar for hair aromaisin as a AI caber on hand mast for estro and prov and prop and yohimbi (burn is the one)

Honestly all you need is the var...if you have the mast on hand then you can just use that...it will work very similar to var...it is a non aromatizing androgen so it i will make you very hard if you are lean enough. Combine that with the clen and T3 and you are good to go. You wont need an AI at all because mast doesnt aromatize. If you use prop with it even at 100mg EOD you should see little if any aromatization. Aromasin is an AI and will combat any estro but I doubt you would have any estro issues....masty will do little for estro in comparison. Prov is redundant dont waste your money. If you choose to include prop again you will need more aggressive PCT. I would also skip the yohimbe..not worth the money IMO.

If you already have the mast then here is what you could do:

Mast 75mg EOD
Prop 100mg EOD
Aromasin 12.5mg ED
T3 start at 25mcg ED and raise by 12.5mcg every two weeks...max dose 75mcg ED
Clen start at 20mcg twice daily and raise by 20mcg every two weeks...max dose 120mcg ED
Diet: keto for 10-12 weeks
You will be extremely hard on this if you get lean enough.
Cardio should start at 30min ED and raise by about 5-10 min every week.
Training 5 days per week weights


P

perfection
21-04-2011, 01:35 PM
Thank you P for alll your help bro....I will keep you informed on the switch and when I start my cycle.....thanks for all your help and time once again greatly appreciated

perfection
22-04-2011, 05:14 PM
Hey P quck question....if I started my cycle in a week or two I'd have about two months and about 3 or for weeks for this cycle including pct as I will be goin on vac. To see my gf.....my question it....if I cnt switch tren is this enough time to recover before I go......I don wanna be tryin to get my dik up cuz it will be vry bad lol...also if I can switch my tren it will be for some EQ as my source said some1 with eq is thinking of switching it for tren.

Thanks P