Beginner Cycle

[Canadian Bodybuilding]

Now that a lot of you have experience. Let's pass it on to the guys that are new at this or have no clue where to start. What is your ideal of a good beginner cycle?

Mine would be

500mg test enanthate for 8 weeks
35mg dbol ed for first 4 weeks.
PCT with nolva.

[GTZ3]

If you were looking for size then yeah good cycle. Id opt for HCG and clomid for PCT though.

500Mg Test and 400mg Eq would be a nice lean bulker also IMO.

[Gettin'r'round]

If you were looking for size then yeah good cycle. Id opt for HCG and clomid for PCT though.

500Mg Test and 400mg Eq would be a nice lean bulker also IMO.

I'd add some anti-aromatiazes for the last few weeks and into PCT.

[Big D]

I think you would benefit more if you would run the test for 12 weeks

[slick rick]

I think you would benefit more if you would run the test for 12 weeks

Agree, that was my first cycle last year and i put on some decent mass. Eat like a champ and that cycle will do wonders.

[thelittleguy]

I'd add some anti-aromatiazes for the last few weeks and into PCT.

estrogen aids in growth. i would only add nolva if signs of gyno appear. otherwise you are limiting your gains.

[SteveMan]

I wouldn't run test E for only 8 weeks because for some people it takes 5 weeks to kick in fully. Run for 12.

[ManInTheBox]

500mg test enanthate for 8 weeks
35mg dbol ed for first 4 weeks.
PCT with nolva.

I'd drop the dbol and add another 2 weeks at least of the T-E. Nolva alone is fine for a newb as far as pct is concerned. However, from personal experience I would advise having at least Proviron on standby in case estrogen buildup becomes a problem. IMO Proviron is underrated as an anti-E. Good for when a little (but not too much) control is needed.

I'm old school I guess. I believe one should always build up their cycles as far as compounds are concerned (Test only 1st cycle).

1. It is cheap
2. It is effective
3. It is simple
4. Allows you to judge your reaction to test alone.

[golden_arm]

I'd drop the dbol and add another 2 weeks at least of the T-E. Nolva alone is fine for a newb as far as pct is concerned. However, from personal experience I would advise having at least Proviron on standby in case estrogen buildup becomes a problem. IMO Proviron is underrated as an anti-E. Good for when a little (but not too much) control is needed.

I'm old school I guess. I believe one should always build up their cycles as far as compounds are concerned (Test only 1st cycle).

1. It is cheap
2. It is effective
3. It is simple
4. Allows you to judge your reaction to test alone.

HUGE bump, you stole the words right outa my mouth brother! Ive always been a firm believer in test only 1st cycles, my first two cycles were test only and for my third I threw in some dbol at 35mg ed first 4 weeks. Too many bros running 3 or 4 compounds for first cycles, its just unnessecery

[MuSuLPhReAk]

I did the big sust/deca/dbol thingy for my first cycle. Way overkill in my opinion. 1 max 2 compounds is what should be normal.

But I am a fan of longer than 8 weeks. On my long cycles. My best gains were alwasys 12-15. Even with 3 compounds as a cycle.

[Gettin'r'round]

I tried the dynabolan/anavar stack, taking it easy at first. I did ok but my very first shot I thought i'd add B12 to the dyna. Mixing oil and water (nice) and the sudden drop in plunger pressure from the oil to the water caused my heart rate to triple thinking I'd broke into a vein. duh....

As for the estrogen, weight gain, sure. Fat and water!!! You will gain less weight but it's muscle, not bLOat. Estrogen is the enemy and is part of the reason you shut down your natural test production. Keep it down and you are already ahead of the game.

[leeroy]

Test only or test and an oral. You don't need that much to grow the first time.

[thelittleguy]

I tried the dynabolan/anavar stack, taking it easy at first. I did ok but my very first shot I thought i'd add B12 to the dyna. Mixing oil and water (nice) and the sudden drop in plunger pressure from the oil to the water caused my heart rate to triple thinking I'd broke into a vein. duh....

As for the estrogen, weight gain, sure. Fat and water!!! You will gain less weight but it's muscle, not bLOat. Estrogen is the enemy and is part of the reason you shut down your natural test production. Keep it down and you are already ahead of the game.

estrogen aids in the bodies overall health (bones etc.). removing it completely for extended periods of time, will produce serious problems down the road.

[purelife]

run the test for 12 weeks
then pct nolvadex 40/40/20/20

[mcgee]

test only for 10-12 weeks @250-300mg/wk
lots of food!!

[IronRobi]

test only for 10-12 weeks @250-300mg/wk
lots of food!!

agreed 100%. Test only should always be the first cycle, and you don't need a lot to get great gains!

[bigdaddydrew123]

id do tren only first time ........maybe deca too.

[IronRobi]

id do tren only first time ........maybe deca too.

That's what was recommended to me by my first ever source... tren a 75mg eod.... wow did I ever hate that ****er! hahaha

[bigdaddydrew123]

bet your girl friend hated him too

[Diesel_250]

Run 500mgs of test for 12 weeks, take 3000mgs trib a day the entire time, finish with a taper and Nolvadex for PCT

[tex]

why taper?

[beserker]

Personally i would (and did myself) run prop @ 100mg eod for 10 weeks . That way you can judge how you will respond to test and you get fast 101 on how to properly execute injections . Have anti e's on hand and finish off with clomid at 100/50/50/50. Thats exactly how i ran my first cycle