Crashed Enth

[Lykalotopus]

So I had some left over Enth from last summer (still well within the exp date), took it from it's hiding spot & it had completely crashed.

I boiled some water, all looked good, went for it, no problems with the shot, smooth as butta.

Go back to it this morning, partially crashed again. Mic'd it this time instead of boiling, looks good again.

I guess my question is can/should I continully do this until the gear is used up? I've got a good 5wks worth of enth left in this one vial.

[BolicPower]

hmmm, only way to do it now is to heat like you are, I'd think with crashin after year, maybe got to cool who knows.. but all t is just little heat ad your fine

[MassNutrition]

Sounds weird. Never in my life have I seen Enanthate crash. Enanthate practically melts at room temperature, and chances are, the raw material will arrive in a liquid form in the middle of a hot summer day...

...I'm guessing this isn't Enanthate that's in that vial (possibly Cypionate), or the lab didn't use any BA or BB (or enough of it) to help suspend it in the oil.

Just my 2 cents... but re-heating it everytime should be fine. I would prefer the boiling water over the microwave though. And how the heck do you microwave it with an aluminum seal on the vial anyway?!

[Lykalotopus]

And how the heck do you microwave it with an aluminum seal on the vial anyway?!

I was thinking the same thing before I did it, I just didn't have time to wait for the boil method. So I tried just 5 seconds, no problem. Then another 5, all is well, then 10, then another 10.

Didn't seem to be doing anything other than getting hotter!

I wonder if because the seal is so small it doesn't affect newer microwaves?!

[Lykalotopus]

Now your BA or BB theory sounds more on moneym that can ccause lots of things like, cloudy, crashing, chuncks of powders,et, just not pretty...

This is more like crystals forming on the bottom.

I hate to even admit this, but I have no idea what BA & BB are. I and I thought I knew a bit about this stuff!!

[pseclint]

oven it instead 250 F for about 40 mins

[Canadian Bodybuilding]

At the price a vial costs, just chuck it and get a new one. Why take any risks?

[MassNutrition]

.. but as for enth melting at room temp.i hight doubt that.
Melting point on enth is100 to 104C sooooooo if your home is a sauna, good luck in melting, hence the ONLY gear i heard of being liquid at room temp is eq. Back in the day i use to see a friend make the shit for himself, and enth NEEDED heat to disolved...


I never said it did melt at room temperatures, I said "practically"... you're correct in saying that it does need some heat, but not alot...

...trust me Dude, when it's 33 facking degrees outside, and the humidity makes it feel like 43, that shit is gonna melt. I've seen it with my own eyes and have personally had to deal with it...

[batfink0]

I home produce all my junk...Test E at room temp is a bloody sticky mess. Any heat at all makes it liquify. Oven is the best as stated earlier...Make sure you put a pin through the top though, or it could pop...

Anyhoo......Getting back to the original question....

Pretty hard for Test E to crash! I mean, I produce up to 400mg/ml product and it lasts a good 2 years just sitting on the shelf. I would be very concerned about the product you have. It's either not what you think, or the expiry date has been forged. Either way, sounds fishy!


P.S.

I said I produce....It's for personal use only, so don't bother even thinking about considering me a source. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.


<Peace Out>

[BolicPower]

Your saying at ROOM temp your enth is sticky??? wft then somethings wrong, you got ****ed i highly doubt it, what i just read was it was over 100C so your room better be hot lol
I'm reading into making one day, and seem temps vary, with most gear, but yes from a google seems cyp is higher

[Lykalotopus]

So, what is BA & BB?

Yes, said lab is no longer in production. However, I never had any complaints about their gear previously. I just found this one odd. Could it be because I keep it in a cold corner in the basment? It's approx 12-15' C down there.

[BolicPower]

benzoyl benzoate BB. benzoyl Alcohol BA

[RJ*]

Your saying at ROOM temp your enth is sticky??? wft then somethings wrong, you got ****ed i highly doubt it, what i just read was it was over 100C so your room better be hot lol
I'm reading into making one day, and seem temps vary, with most gear, but yes from a google seems cyp is higher

dude enth melts at like 35 degrees Celsius

[Testa]

If you test if from like a year ago, i'd say DEFIANTlY didnt' add enought ba or BB whch ever, coulda used bit more.. but as for enth melting at room temp.i hight doubt that.
Melting point on enth is100 to 104C sooooooo if your home is a sauna, good luck in melting, hence the ONLY gear i heard of being liquid at room temp is eq. Back in the day i use to see a friend make the shit for himself, and enth NEEDED heat to disolved.
Now your BA or BB theory sounds more on moneym that can ccause lots of things like, cloudy, crashing, chuncks of powders,et, just not pretty... but looks good when made..lol


and i have i've seen enth /cyp/prop/tren crashed, not sure on deca

Its this labs still around?? or they disapeareed since?

your wrong enth melt at between 32-36C

[gustavo77]

your wrong enth melt at between 32-36C

Isn't 35C between 32-36C??..lol.

[Testa]

I was quoting monka and stating the exact melting temps.

[BolicPower]

i did a google and hope ths helps, from elite; now i did a few searches and enth seemed to vary along withe others but seems enth is 36-42 on average, for what i see, so i'd say monka your close with a room being hot. if a room if over 20Cthen it's not normal conditions, and room temp imo = 18-20 not double,
i've had some old training parters that used them and they had bruisig/ infections etc BUT it worked, so it's say heat up a few tie with a pin in it and it will desolve,if not then get a filter and refilter it after you heat the hell out of it. Since the lab is long gone, and first time worked, it's imo just crashed o to BA, lots of people have but you need very very little. This is what i copied at Elite.


Androstanolone- 5a-ANDROSTAN-17b-OL-3-ONE
(SAME AS 5a-Dihydrotestosterone)
melting point= 177-182C
molecular weight= 290.40
rotation= +33 c=1 CHCL3

Boldenone- 1,4-ANDROSTADIEN-17B-OL-3-ONE
melting point= 167-172C
molecular weight= 286.40
rotation= +22 CHCL3

BOLDENONE UNDECLYNATE- 1,4-ANDROSTADIEN-17B-OL-3-ONE-UNDECYLENATE
melting point=
molecular weight=
rotation=

CLOMIFENE CITRATE-2-(p- (2-chloro-1,2-diphenylvinyl)phenoxy) triethylamine citrate (1:1)
melting point= 116.5C
molecular weight= 598.09

CLOSTEBOL- 4-ANDROSTEN-4-CHLORO-17b-OL-3-ONE
melting point= 187-188C
molecular weight= 322.89
rotation= +150 CHLF

DROSTANOLONE- 5a-ANDROSTAN-2a-METHYL-17b-OL-3-ONE
(SAME AS DROMOSTANOLONE)
melting point= 149-153C
molecular weight= 304.36
rotation= +32 MeOH

LETROZOLE-4,4'-(1H-1,2,4 -Triazol-1-ylmethylene) dibenzonitrile
melting point= 184-185C
molecular weight= 285.31

MESTEROLONE- 5a-ANDROSTAN-1a-METHYL-17b-OL-3-ONE
melting point= 202-206C
molecular weight= 304.36
rotation= =18 CHCL3

METHANDIONONE- 1,4-ANDROSTADIEN-17a-METHYL-17B-OL-3-ONE
(SAME AS METHYLANDROSTENOLONE)
melting point= 162-164C
molecular weight= 300.42
rotation= +0 CHCL3

METHENOLONE- 1,5a-ANDROSTEN-1-METHYL-17b-OL-3-ONE
melting point= 164-165C
molecular weight=
rotation= +58 CHLF

METHYL TESTOSTERONE
melting point= 162-167c
molecular weight= 302.46

NANDROLONE- 4-ESTREN-17b-OL-3-ONE
melting point= 122-125C
molecular weight= 274.38
rotation= +56 C=1 CHCL3

NANDROLONE ACETATE- 4-ESTREN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-ACETATE
melting point= 89-93C
molecular weight= 316.41
rotation= +49 C=1 CHCL3

NANDROLONE BENZOATE- 4-ESTREN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-BENZOATE
melting point= 170-175C
molecular weight= 378.49
rotation= +104 C=1 CHCL3

NANDROLONE DECANOATE- 4-ESTREN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-DECANOATE
melting point= 30-35C
molecular weight= 428.63
rotation=

NANDROLONE PHENYLPROPIONATE- 4-ESTREN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-PHENYLPROPIONATE
melting point= 92-96C
molecular weight= 406.54
rotation= +58 C=1 CHCL3

NANDROLONE PROPIONATE- 4-ESTREN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-PROPIONATE
melting point= 55-60C
molecular weight= 330.45
rotation= +41 C=1 CHCL3

OXANDROLONE-
melting point= 235-238C

OXYMETHOLONE- 5a-ANDROSTAN-17a-METHYL-17b-OL-2-
HYDROXYMETHYLENE-3-ONE
melting point= 177-180C
molecular weight= 332.47
rotation= +38 ETOH

SPIRONOLACTONE- 4,17a-PREGNEN-21-CARBOXYLIC ACID-17b-OL-3-ONE-7a-THIOL 21-17 GAMMA LACTONE 7-ACETATE
(SAME AS ALDACTONE)
melting point= 207C
molecular weight= 416-.59
rotation=

STANOZOLOL- 5a-ANDROSTAN-17a-METHYL-17b-OL-3,
2c-PYRAZOLE
melting point prisms= 228-242C (235C)
melting point needles= 155C
molecular weight= 328.42
rotation= +36 CHCL3

TADALAFIL-
melting point= 298-300C
molecular weight= 389.41
roatation= [a]20D: +70 DEG to +73 DEG

TAMOXIFEN CITRATE- 2-[4-1,2-Diphenyl-1-Butenyl)
melting point= 143-146C
molecular weight= 563.65

TESTOSTERONE BASE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE
melting point= 154-155C
molecular weight= 288.4
rotation= +102 degrees C=1 CHCL3

TESTOSTERONE ACETATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-ACETATE
melting point=140-144C
molecular weight=330.45
rotation= +59 C=1 ACETONE

TESTOSTERONE BENZOATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-BENZOATE
melting point=191-196C
molecular weight=392.52
rotation= +155 C=1 CHCL3

TESTOSTERONE CYPIONATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-CYCLOPENTYLPROPIONATE
(SAME AS TESTOSTERONE CYCLOPENTYLPROPIONATE)
melting point=98-102C
molecular weight=412.59
rotation= +87 C=1 CHCL3

TESTOSTERONE ENANTHATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-ENANTHATE
(SAME AS TESTOSTERONE HEPTANOATE)
melting point=32-36C
molecular weight=400.61
rotation= +84 C=1 CHCL3

TESTOSETERONE DECANOATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-n-DECANOATE
melting point=47-49C
molecular weight=
rotation= +72 DIOXANE

TESTOSTERONE ISOBUTYRATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-ISOBUTYRATE
melting point=124-128C
molecular weight=358.50

TESTOSTERONE ISOCAPRONATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE ISOCAPRONATE
melting point=53-55C
rotation= +86 CHLF

TESTOSTERONE VALERATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-VALERATE
(SAME AS TESTOSTERONE PENTANOATE)
melting point=106-109C
molecular weight=372.53
rotation= +92 C=1 CHCL3

TESTOSTERONE PHENYLPROPIONATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 3-PHENYLPROPIONATE
melting point=115-116C
rotation= +98 CHLF

TESTOSTERONE PROPIONATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-PROPIONATE
melting point=118-122C
molecular weight=344.50
rotation= +86 C=1 DIOXANE

TESTOSTERONE UNDECANOATE- 4-Androsten-17b-ol-3-one 17-undecanoate
melting point=
molecular weight=
rotation=

TRENBOLONE ACETATE-
melting point= 94-97C

TURINABOL- 4-ANDROSTEN-4-CHLORO-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-ACETATE
melting point= 225-230C
molecular weight= 364.89
rotation= =118 CHCL3

[Lykalotopus]

Do you guys want me to change the title of this thread to 'Test Melting Points'?

Seriously though, very good info.

Just an FYI update, having heated it up yesterday & injecting while still very warm, this morning this morning there is absolutely zero pain, not even the usual post injection irritation.

[bigben]

The microwave works very well, and the foil caps don't throw off sparks. Like said earlier, 10 seconds gets it warm, then more short bursts if necessary. There was a good deal on a now defunct lab's test prop years back and it was all crystalized, so it needed reheating. Seems like only the contents got hot. Never had anything vent out, so it doesn't seem to build pressure from the solvents.

[BolicPower]

LMAO! I know seems to go that direction. I figured to have melting points is a good idea for the do it yourselfer, this way you'll have a little idea your not being screwed. Glad to hear your gear is ok then, i remember prop used to be a bad one for crashing. But for those that do your own gear this will help make sure your not scamed. I find if you reheat gear sometimes (if painfull) the heat will burn away the ba and help with pain. Or another method i used for gear was a clean toaster over, and watched the BA steam off ;0 , made a big diffrence for pain.

[MassNutrition]

Do you guys want me to change the title of this thread to 'Test Melting Points'?



No shit. Christ, I make one statement and now it's open for debate. I said "PRACTICALLY" melts at room temperatures... I never said it DID! I merely emphasized my point about a hot summer day. Trust me, order some raw Enanthate and see what happens... you think those facking UPS trucks that delivery parcels are air conditioned in the back? Or try leaving it in your truck for 15 minutes while you run into Walmart for a box of pins...

...it ...will... MELT.