NOT LOOSING WEIGHT FROM DAVE PALUMO's KETO DIET!!! HELP!!!

[4Sho]

hi guys as u can see i am new around this website,
i would really appreciate it if you guys can read over this and tell me what am i doing wrong!
So i have been doing DP Keto diet for almost 3 weeks now!
the only thing I think I lost is water weight and that was in the 1st week and after that i've not lost a single a pound for 2 weeks now!
i noe sometimes u gain muscle while loosing the fat slowly but my measurements around my waist, thighs, hips, and or stomach.

my specifications:
gender: male
age: 21
overall weight atm: 228
height: 5' 10.5"

my weekly workout routine: all cardio is done on either bike or treadmill at 3-4" incline!

monday: chest workout (heavy weight low reps) + minimum 30-60 min low intensity long duration cardio (heart rate doesn't go higher than 125 or lower than 118)

tuesday: upper and lower back workout (heavy weight low reps) + minimum 30-60 min low intensity long duration cardio (heart rate doesn't go higher than 125 or lower than 118)

wednesday: shoulder workout (heavy weight low reps) + minimum 30-60 min low intensity long duration cardio (heart rate doesn't go higher than 125 or lower than 118)

thursday: minimum 60- maximum 90 minute low intensity long duration cardio (heart rate doesn't go higher than 125 or lower than 118)

friday: biceps and triceps workout (heavy weight low reps) + minimum 30-60 min low intensity long duration cardio (heart rate doesn't go higher than 125 or lower than 118)

Saturday: minimum 60- maximum 90 minute low intensity long duration cardio (heart rate doesn't go higher than 125 or lower than 118)

sunday: legs workout (heavy weight low reps) + minimum 30-60 min low intensity long duration cardio (heart rate doesn't go higher than 125 or lower than 118)

what i have been eating everyday:
i take 3 fish oil gel capsules when i am eating solid food which is 3 times a day
i take benefibre again 3 times a day about a steaped teaspoon in about 500-700 ml of water(cold)
i take 5g creatine (by pure i believe) the one in a blue plastic bottle. i take 5g in morning with breakfast and later on when I mix it in with my protein shake after workout
i drink minimum 3 litres of water a day to a max of 5 litres which is rare maybe one a week!
yes i do smoke please don't tell me to quit or its bad for your health... i already know that.....n e ways i am NOT a heavy smoker and have between 3-5 a day


now with eating schedule:
9:30am breakfast: 3 omega 3 eggs (too expensive cannot afford 5 a day) +1 regular egg + 4 eggwhites. i make it into an omlette with no salt spices just a couple of pinches and no sauce of any kind or salt,,,, also i use just enough vegetable oil to barely greese the pan so maybe a teaspoon....+ 1 fish oil gel + .5L-1L of water mixed with benefibre

brunch approximately 3 hours later 12:30ish pm: 1.5 scoop of protein powder (2g carb total, 1g fibre and 1g sugar per 32g scoop and 25g protein) + 1 tablespoon of all natural peanut butter made in water and blender

lunch around 3pm: 6-8 ounces of chicken with very little dry powder spices spread over them which contain low or no salt levels or carb levels and again i fry the chicken in a pan but i use just enough vegetable oil to barely greese the pan so maybe a teaspoon and so the chicken doesn't stick to the pan, and i squeeze quarter of a fresh lemon or lime on it! and 2 ounces of almonds or cashews with no salt added. and water 500ml-1000ml mixed with benefibre and drink it + a fish oil (omega 3 pill)

pre-dinner 5:30ish pm: 1.5 scoop of protein powder (2g carb total, 1g fibre and 1g sugar per 32g scoop and 25g protein) + 1 tablespoon of all natural peanut butter made in water and blender

dinner around 8pm: 6-8 ounces of basa fish fillets (just cuz they are a lot cheaper than anything else) with very little dry powder spices spread over them which contain low or no salt levels or carb levels and again i fry the basa fish in a pan but i use just enough vegetable oil to barely greese the pan so maybe a teaspoon and so the fish doesn't stick to the pan, and i squeeze quarter of a fresh lemon or lime on it! with one english cucumber which is about 1 cup when cut peeled, and again i squeeze quarter of a lemon or lime on the fish. and water 500ml-1000ml mixed with benefibre and drink it + a fish oil (omega 3 pill)

pre sleep (after dinner) around 11pm: 1.5 scoop of protein powder (2g carb total, 1g fibre and 1g sugar per 32g scoop and 25g protein) + 1 tablespoon of all natural peanut butter made in water and blender

and i also have my cheat meal on same day as last meat of the day!

!!!!!! now i've been trying to follow dave's diet but its messing up somewhere or im not doing something right i don't know.... but so far as u guys read i dint loose weight after the 1 week which was the 1s week, and i have not lost any inches around my body either.

just please help me as to am i not loosing the fat and loosing some weight and even if not weight then inches of my belly chest and thighs!!!!

p.s** i've already put a lot of money into this diet and cannot afford to keep doing so if it doesn't give me results by the end of next week so that means 7 days from now. and also because i am a student and have a shitty job tring to get a better one ...


thanks for all ur guys help....

[beretta96]

do you know what that works out to in calories? I am by no means an expert at all, but I suspect you could be at your maintenance calorie level. Not sure though. maybe someone with more knowledge will chime in.

[beretta96]

when you have your cheat meal, what does that meal look like? I've been told that if I'm too conservative I'm not doing myself any favors. He says the idea is so your metabolism sees this shock and speeds up. If you're too conservative, your body won't accelerate its metabolism and adjusts to your new diet. I tend to believe what he told me, he's 275# and 8% right now. He has a double burger, onion rings and 2L of ice cream for his cheat.

[4Sho]

Hey no I'm not really sure how many calories it comes out to be but I'm pretty sure it comes close to the maximum of what I'm supposed to have in a day I believe.... Also this time for my cheat meal I went to mandarin buffet :)... I had a lot of deep fried chicken dishes about a cup or so of pasta and rice ..... A cup of chocolate ice cream... Some fruits... Sushi about 10 of them (cooked) 2-4 pieces of chocolate brownie and some other stuff which I can't remember..... And for tonight I'm at states visiting family and Planning to get a large pizza and eat about half of it with either chocolate ice cream or chocolate by itself.... And a can of pop probably.... But yea thank you for replying and I still don't know y the hell I'm not loosing weight :(:(:(:(

[Praetorian]

Ok here are a few tips to help.

1. Cardio....your cardio is all over the friggin map...thats not going to work....you need to be consistent with cardio that means starting and 30min once per day in the morning before eating breakfast...this is done 7 days per week. As your body adapts to the cardio duration you gradually increase it...ie 40min once per day etc

2. Your 5th meal should be a fatty protein source...ie salmon, steak or if you are on a budget lean ground beef.

3. All your protein whole food meals should be 7oz NO more! These are weighed cooked!

4. You need to start adding sodium to your meals...you are most likely retaining water by restricting sodium so drastically...low sodium =high aldosterone=water retention...salt yoru food and use condiments with high sodium ie mustard, hot sauce etc...just avoid thing with sugar/glucose etc in them

5, You are training 4 days in a row...sun to wed...this is not good...I would suggest mon-wed thursday off and then friday and saturday with sunday off.

6. Your first meal should be earlier....say 8am...then you can space each meal out to 3 hours not 2.5...8-11-2-5-8-11 or better yet 7-10-1-4-7-10

7.Are you regular? ie going twice daily...if not you are constipated...benefiber doesnt work for some people

8. Cheat meal should be Saturday night or Sunday night...ideally higher carb meals such as pancakes with butter and syrup with eggs and bacon or pasta with meat sauce and garlic bread with a desert...pizza is not ideal...very high fat prevents you from getting enough carbs which triggers higher conversion of T4 to T3 (thyroid)

9. Always weigh yourself CONSISTENTLY which means every saturday morning, before eating or drinking anything, after going to the bathroom, using the same digital scale(that has a new battery) NEVER weigh yourself the day after a cheat meal

10. The diet is not STATIC which means it will have to be adjusted as you go

P

[4Sho]

Hey P thanks for the fast reply, I will start waking up around 8 am starting the coming Monday because I'm at the states ATM and my times are a little off since I drove for 6hours straight last night...
Ne ways yes I'm regular benefibre seems to work good for me I go usually 2wice a day atleast once...
And yes I will try to keep my cardio consistent from now on ... The only thing is that my gym takes around 15-20 mins to reach and I usually eat breakfast do my weight training and then I do the cardio... And then after my gym I have my shake.... But thank you for the reply ill do my best following the tips that you gave me and keep this thread up to date

[Praetorian]

Do your cardio when you get up..go outside and walk...I do every morning...and today it was -10 so no excuses...dress warm!
P

[4Sho]

So when I get I go outside and do cardio? Fine that's ok with me so now I guess I gotta go and get my self a heartrate monitor? And P when I go to gym just to weight grainy and that's all?? Orshould I do cardio again???

[4Sho]

Also how much salt should I be taking in everyday to loose the maximum amount of water to a safe level??
And is guacamole sauce ok? It has 1g of sugar and 2g of dietary fibre and 1g of carbs unaccounted for... But that is in 2 tablespoons of sauce... So is it ok if I have 1-2 tablespoons of guacamole sauce everyday ???

[Praetorian]

For now just get up, have a cup of black coffee and hit the road...you dont need a heart rate monitor....just walk at a brisk pace thats fine. Also just start at 35min once per day in the morning...see how that goes by the end of the week. As for salt just salt to taste...use condiments like hot sauce, sugar free soya(Braggs), mustard etc I would avoid the guacamole its also added fat....just stick to the above.

P

[ubcpower]

Hey P, what about crystal light on dave's diet? same idea as gum? in moderation?

[beretta96]

Holy crap P, you know your stuff! Love reading your replies! Just a quick question, why do we have to be so ritual and habitual with this diet? Is it the body's response to your routine? For example, you mentioned for him to eat 3 hours apart, not 2.5. What is the theory behind it please and thank you.

[4Sho]

Aii P thnx for the post.... I will do that starting Monday hopefully depending what time I get back to Toronto from the states tommorow... But yea I'll do my best to do that thanx again... I don't really like mustard or soya sauce at all but I'll the salt to taste for now n c how the coming up week goes by...
Thnxx again :)

[Big_Papa_B]

I have been doing the DP diet for around 6 weeks now and have lost around 35 lbs...one thing dave suggest is that you stay strict on the diet for at least 14 days before you have your first cheap meal...also try frying your eggs & chicken in macadamia nut oil instead of vegi oil....it will add a nice nutty flavor to your food and it also is very high in monounsaturated fats.

Check out these videos made by DP himself. He pretty much explains the whole diet.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9lrfk_exclusive-species-nutrition-with-da_sport
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9lquq_exclusive-species-nutrition-with-da_sport

[Praetorian]

In moderation crystal light is fine.
P

[Praetorian]

Holy crap P, you know your stuff! Love reading your replies! Just a quick question, why do we have to be so ritual and habitual with this diet? Is it the body's response to your routine? For example, you mentioned for him to eat 3 hours apart, not 2.5. What is the theory behind it please and thank you.

Eating too soon is ingesting calories too quickly...gives the body more time to utilize BF for fuel instead of food.
P

[Praetorian]

I have been doing the DP diet for around 6 weeks now and have lost around 35 lbs...one thing dave suggest is that you stay strict on the diet for at least 14 days before you have your first cheap meal...also try frying your eggs & chicken in macadamia nut oil instead of vegi oil....it will add a nice nutty flavor to your food and it also is very high in monounsaturated fats.

Check out these videos made by DP himself. He pretty much explains the whole diet.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9lrfk_exclusive-species-nutrition-with-da_sport
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9lquq_exclusive-species-nutrition-with-da_sport



Use very minimal oil for frying...you dont want to add extra fat to the meal...I would suggest just using a paper towel to very lightly oil the pan.
P

[4Sho]

I literally just place about a teaspoon or teaspoon and a half of vegi oil for greasing the the pan... Is that still too much? P do I really should use the fat burning and mecadimia oil or can I get away from eating the fat burners mentioned in the vids above... And just put a table spoon of extra virgin olive oil on my fish after cooking or frying it in the vegi oil? And I don't like leafy salads or what not but I don't mind cucumber at all about 1 cup of it, I usually take with my fish meal#5 with some fresh lemon or lime squeezed on it... Is that ok as well?? Please reply thank you... N e ways I'm off to bed and will check up in the morning... Gn...
And thanks a bunch everyone for replying and reading my loooooooong post for this thread at the begining of this thread:D

[Praetorian]

I literally just place about a teaspoon or teaspoon and a half of vegi oil for greasing the the pan... Is that still too much? P do I really should use the fat burning and mecadimia oil or can I get away from eating the fat burners mentioned in the vids above... And just put a table spoon of extra virgin olive oil on my fish after cooking or frying it in the vegi oil? And I don't like leafy salads or what not but I don't mind cucumber at all about 1 cup of it, I usually take with my fish meal#5 with some fresh lemon or lime squeezed on it... Is that ok as well?? Please reply thank you... N e ways I'm off to bed and will check up in the morning... Gn...
And thanks a bunch everyone for replying and reading my loooooooong post for this thread at the begining of this thread:D


The fat burners are optional...mac nut oil or safflower is god just be very cautious with the amounts for frying...1 cup chopped cucumber is fine.
P

[4Sho]

Thnx for the reply P ... And yea I'll try to get the Mac or sunflower oil... And yea I'm very stingy on them when it comes to frying my food n e ways :)

[massabsamurai]

what i shoulda told u before u started this diet was you have to be very disciplined. Hit the bed by 10-11 tops and be up by 6-7 tops. No excuses with anything.

[massabsamurai]

i noe sometimes u gain muscle while loosing the fat slowly.

you don't gain muscle on a calorie restricted diet

[NACanada]

Has anyone heard or know the effect this diet has on natural test levels?

[Praetorian]

Has anyone heard or know the effect this diet has on natural test levels?

Your natural test and GH levels will remain in the normal range and not drop as with the regular low carb low fat diet...why...essential fat intake.
P

[4Sho]

So I just got back from the states safley.... And my diet has been a little disturbed, I'm probably gonna get to fit 4 maybe 5 meals in today which sucks... But I should be on my regular routine by tommorow morning... And I'll keep this updated if I have any more questions and concerns

[NACanada]

Your natural test and GH levels will remain in the normal range and not drop as with the regular low carb low fat diet...why...essential fat intake.
P

Thanks P.

PH

[4Sho]

So I think I found out where I was messing up.... It's because I was either having my meals sometimes in 2 hrs and sometimes as much as 4 hrs because either I was trying to fit in the 6 meals or I didn't expect myself to leave the house for so long... But since Monday I've been eating exactly at 3 hr intervals and I think it's working cuz I start to feel hungry around the 2 hour mark... Also I've noticed that I had to go to the bathroom 5 times today.... Sorry to be gross but it was very watery... Is that normal??? Also I've been passing gas the whole day atleast once or twice an hour .... I just want to know if these are symptoms that the diet is working???? the metabolism is getting faster or not..... Also FYI i had my cheat meal on sunday night last dinner....P what do u think? ... Thanks any answers are appriciated... :)