Clomid vs Nolva sides

[JifeLacket]

Just wondering what people's experiences have been with these compounds. I found nolva totally killed my sex drive so i am going to try clomid this time around (in two weeks actually). I'm also not going to front load the clomid im going to run 50mg straight through.

Anyone noticed a difference in recovery between them?

[powerrack]

Here's my most recent experience, I was on gear for a long bout about 9 months, so I was very worried about recovery, but I really wanted to go off and not just continue on and on, so I dived into a basic pct.

I did clomid and nolva together. 50mg clomid per a day and 20mg nolva per a day, no front load type shit.

I'm on week 4 of pct, I'm doing fine, I obviously lost my "full" geared up look, but my strength is doing ok, my sex drive is more then adequate, my nuts are back to full.

Maybe I'm just lucky, I don't know, but last time I did nolva alone I did ok too but my sex drive went to shit.

So my conclusion nolva alone did help recovery but my sex drive was not there, with clomid in there my sex drive was fine, actually really good. However again, everyone is different in the end, only way to find out is to try it out.

Also I did a taper off the long cycle, I think that maybe helped, and I also am taking a small dose of clen at 40mcg per a day during pct.

[JifeLacket]

Thanks for your input, after researching i really think clomid is the best for htpa re-start... I think people jumped on the nolva band wagon because everyone thought it should 'technically' do the same thing, which i think it does to an extent, but from what i have read clomid is better. Hopefully this time with clomid my libido wont be dead.

[jacked_to_the_nine]

anyone ever notice crazy acne on nolva... i fricken do! i only use nolva 5 days out from compitition to make weight, takes water down alot for me, and clomid is deffinetly better for LH stim, it makes me horny as shit, along side hcg as well... nolva i think is best for notible on the spot sides like water and gyno and clomid and hcg is better for actual recovery.

[JifeLacket]

^ True, i did notice more acne on nolva. Just started clomid yesterday ill post back what i feel in a few days!

[jacked_to_the_nine]

^ True, i did notice more acne on nolva. Just started clomid yesterday ill post back what i feel in a few days!

ya i have to take 20mg EOD to keep the acne from getting to bad, otherwise i don't just break out but its like a toad rash, its ****ed... and if i notice any signs of it, i just stop until it goes away and lower the dose... i really think nolva is pointless for recovery though, it just makes u think u are recovering because it keeps water down and can give u a slight hard look, it makes sense since it is a estro blocker, i actualy know guys who use nolva pre comp to get that hard look and lose water too... clomid and hcg, thats all u need for pct... stimulate LH with the hcg and then hopefully keep it going with the use of clomid.

[slick rick]

Here's my most recent experience, I was on gear for a long bout about 9 months, so I was very worried about recovery, but I really wanted to go off and not just continue on and on, so I dived into a basic pct.

I did clomid and nolva together. 50mg clomid per a day and 20mg nolva per a day, no front load type shit.

I'm on week 4 of pct, I'm doing fine, I obviously lost my "full" geared up look, but my strength is doing ok, my sex drive is more then adequate, my nuts are back to full.

Maybe I'm just lucky, I don't know, but last time I did nolva alone I did ok too but my sex drive went to shit.

So my conclusion nolva alone did help recovery but my sex drive was not there, with clomid in there my sex drive was fine, actually really good. However again, everyone is different in the end, only way to find out is to try it out.

Also I did a taper off the long cycle, I think that maybe helped, and I also am taking a small dose of clen at 40mcg per a day during pct.

I follow pretty much the same protocol, only i can't take more than 2 weeks of Clomid before it really starts messing with my head. Some guys it doesn't even effect their moods but with me i get border line mental on Clomid. It has done the trick though as far as bouncing back.

[JifeLacket]

Well tonight will be my 4th night on clomid. I could DEFINITELY feel it ****ing with my head when i took two 50mg caps during the day (wanted to try it). Last night i took 50mg before bed and i seem fine this morning, still different though... If i can't handle it in 2 weeks or so ill split some caps in half and keep going..

[JifeLacket]

Last night was night 6, woke up at 8am this morning with energy, first time since about the start of PCT i wasn't shot in the morning. Serious morning wood too... Hopefully it continues like this and its not just a big hormone swing and i lose it tomorrow! Thumbs up for clomid so far. Down 3-4lb with a shitty diet and no protein powder... fail, going to grab some today and step it up a notch.

[tony_canuck]

you're day 6 from the start of pct? the first few weeks are easy, it's when you get past a certain mark that you might hit a wall. if done properly with clomid, nolva and hcg prior to that, you should be fine

[JifeLacket]

Yea 6 days, I took 5 day from the last shot of prop instead of 3. I also was doing 125mg test E every week to finish a bottle, but i stopped that two weeks before the last shot of prop.

[JifeLacket]

11 nights (11 doses) into pct, NO loss of libido!!!! Feeling good, i felt a definite crash 2-3 days in (i think i timed the start well) and around day 7 things started to pick up. The mood issue is no longer there at least at 50mg at night. I remember last PCT i took i totally lost libido within 24 hours of nolva... never touching that shit again, way more of a pure estro blocker and it blocked at the wrong sights for me thats for sure! I have read numerous accounts of no libido on nolva but hardly any from clomid alone @ 50mg.

Clomid has definitely increased libido if anything, at the start energy was SHIT throughout the day, now i feel great (thankfully, two exams this week). I might go another week @ 50mg (3 weeks total) and then 2 more @ 25mg/day and then depending on how i feel, a week or so of 25mg EOD. Blood work a month or two after as well. Also my weight is coming back up.