Help Deadlifting

[Durk]

Anyone have any videos on proper deadlifting? I have gotten some trainers to try and help me out with this. but it just never feels right. I am long legged, and armed so I even tried to sumo, but I had a hard time balancing the bar with a closer grip. I also dead as much as I squat, and squating feels way more natural. Something just isnt right here.

[bcaamuscle]

What grip are you using? I find it weird to use double overhand grip to pull, but a semi-supinated(one palm over, other palm up) feels natural.

[Talo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nRRlk6264I

[slick rick]

Ripptoe has some really good videos ony youtube that helped me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Syt7A23YnpA

[CMoney]

First of all, YES; the links below are to Scott Abel videos. Suck it, natenator. :fart

What the guy said in the video in the third post, above, about not thrusting your hips forward and hyperextending your low back is important. I huwt myself doing that!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c95xAZrG6zE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqbZXWY8SZI

Stiffleg or Romanian:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xz4YwWcYj4

Top half deadlift:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLsr0AjIj7o

Power deadlift:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um8vL4Es__w

[natenator]

Suck it, natenator. :fart

I'm quite certain you have already done that for Scott.

[razorsedge]

I'd hazard a guess someone is getting a bit defensive here...hmmmm..wonder why...anybody....anybody...Bueller.....play nice you two, it's Friday

[nvrgvup]

I'm quite certain you have already done that for Scott.

Hey nate, grow up and show some class, knowledge is power and if you are so threatened by any that comes from Scott Abel then just try for a change to take the high road and restrain yourself from making immature comments and vulgar insinuations. Some on this forum appreciate any constructive feedback/info whomever it comes from, its up to them if they wish to apply it or not.

[O-Train]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nRRlk6264I

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[Talo]

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[Talo]

Hey nate, grow up and show some class, knowledge is power and if you are so threatened by any that comes from Scott Abel then just try for a change to take the high road and restrain yourself from making immature comments and vulgar insinuations. Some on this forum appreciate any constructive feedback/info whomever it comes from, its up to them if they wish to apply it or not.


:wtfCrystol88 ?? :D

[cog]

Crystol is looking pretty lean and mean.:)

[JacktheThriller]

if you have a short upper torso and short arms in comparison to your legs you may just be ****ed. Some peoples natural levers dont cooperate with certain lifts. If it still feels weird after you fix your form, stop you may have to just supplement with a rack pull or something like that

[nvrgvup]

:wtfCrystol88 ?? :D

No Talo, its not Crystol, just her boyfriend who is getting a little tired of a certain little cyber-punk and his pathetic little comments. For the most part this forum has great info and a good core of people who enjoy helping others and supporting them through their endeavors, others choose to spread negativity when views contrary to theirs appear.

[JacktheThriller]

Talo isnt a bully. There is nothing wrong about enthusiastically pointing out flaws in others viewpoints as well as promoting your own. Its called an opinion.

[nvrgvup]

Talo isnt a bully. There is nothing wrong about enthusiastically pointing out flaws in others viewpoints as well as promoting your own. Its called an opinion.

My comments are not directed at Talo at all, if you read the complete thread you will understand who is being pointed out. As far as opinions go I am all for that as long as it can be done with maturity and not in a demeaning way.

[cog]

Welcome to the forum nvrgvup,certainly agree.

[natenator]

No Talo, its not Crystol, just her boyfriend who is getting a little tired of a certain little cyber-punk and his pathetic little comments. For the most part this forum has great info and a good core of people who enjoy helping others and supporting them through their endeavors, others choose to spread negativity when views contrary to theirs appear.

Douche, err dude, I will say whatever the **** I want. When she stops with the CONSTANT need to continually bring Scott up then I will stop with my comments.

I have worked with Scott and I have ZERO problems with him. I have a problem with people who continually espouse the word from others instead of their own opinions.

So when Crystol can stop touting Scott as the second coming of Christ and post based on her own knowledge then I will stop with the comments. If you think my comments are annoying (which I'll agree they are) then try being one to has to read non-stop posts about her love affair with Scott. THAT is equally, if not more, annoying.

[CMoney]

Douche, err dude, I will say whatever the **** I want. When she stops with the CONSTANT need to continually bring Scott up then I will stop with my comments.

I have worked with Scott and I have ZERO problems with him. I have a problem with people who continually espouse the word from others instead of their own opinions.

So when Crystol can stop touting Scott as the second coming of Christ and post based on her own knowledge then I will stop with the comments. If you think my comments are annoying (which I'll agree they are) then try being one to has to read non-stop posts about her love affair with Scott. THAT is equally, if not more, annoying.

Methinks you doth protest a weeee bit much.

I get it, okay? I'm not here to preach the Gospel According to Scott Abel. But if he has all this information out there that can give people some help with their training and diet questions, for nothing more than the cost of a some time spent watching YouTube, why not share?

There's a TON of information out there in cyber land. It's overwhelming. If you were a newbie, someone looking for guidance, wouldn't you appreciate some help separating the wheat from the chaff from people who walk the talk, who look like they've put the principles into practice? That's all I'm trying to do: provide some choice.

You keep jumping onto these threads whenever there's the slightest hint of a mention of Scott in any of my posts and, seriously, the people starting the threads must be going :wtf? The people who get the information off these threads are probably really grateful for it--not annoyed by it like you are--and don't give a fig which coach or trainer or Bigwig is providing it as long as they learn something and get some answers to their questions.

[natenator]

Methinks you doth protest a weeee bit much.

I get it, okay? I'm not here to preach the Gospel According to Scott Abel. But if he has all this information out there that can give people some help with their training and diet questions, for nothing more than the cost of a some time spent watching YouTube, why not share?

There's a TON of information out there in cyber land. It's overwhelming. If you were a newbie, someone looking for guidance, wouldn't you appreciate some help separating the wheat from the chaff from people who walk the talk, who look like they've put the principles into practice? That's all I'm trying to do: provide some choice.

You keep jumping onto these threads whenever there's the slightest hint of a mention of Scott in any of my posts and, seriously, the people starting the threads must be going :wtf? The people who get the information off these threads are probably really grateful for it--not annoyed by it like you are--and don't give a fig which coach or trainer or Bigwig is providing it as long as they learn something and get some answers to their questions.
No actually, it does matter. Objectivity is an important part of a community of forum. When you continually tout Scott as you do you come across as nothing more than a schill for Scott. It looks like you have nothing to offer than promoting Scott and his services.

I don't believe that is what you are doing but the perception is there when what they read from you is Scott this and Scott that. If Scott wants to share his knowledge that's up to him to come here and do so. If someone has a question related to Scott's theories than that's a totally different question just as many people here have posted questions related to DC training, Palumbo diet, etc.

How people get their answers does matter as objectivity amongst this community has to be paramount. Praetorian touts keto and Palumbo diets a lot but that's not the only method he employs and he also shares information without touting or crediting himself. In other words, he has objectivity and his only care is to share information - not tout someone else or himself.

Just drop the references to Scott because it does matter how people get their information. You can post YOUR feedback on topics based on YOUR experience with training and as a competitor. You don't need to continually name drop like you have been doing. In fact, you've been warned before by Sean Summers about doing such things.

[ironwill]

Well im a fella that does get annoyed with the scott stuff going overboard, and obviously there are many of us, because i believe crystol got warned by the mods to stop it asap........I believe several people reported it, unfortunately many of them do it behind the scenes, and Nate tends to speak outright ion the subject rather than whining behind the scene....I like reading crystolls posts, and hope to meet her and her beau someday, but i will admit it does get real old, real fast with almost id say 80-90 percent of posts refer to scott at one point or another.....Agin, no disrespect, just pointing out something nvrgvup may not know, that she has already been warned on here by mods, and asked to stop by others on the board....Deep breath everyone,...In, and Out....thats it....lol...
I may also add she basically called nate out and said suck it, prior to even posting her clips......;^)
Dont be calling me a little weiner behind a screen either.....lol...muahahaha

[CMoney]

Well, no actually. I got no warnings of the sort other than some kindly meant advice from you, Will, months ago. What you said made sense, so I toned things down (or tried to...guess my perception differs from others, eh? But that's life.). But as far as an outright ban? No, I never got asked to stop posting anything here by anyone that I recall. David (nvrgvup) mentioned that things went south on a thread a long time ago and told me not to read it, so I quit posting on this board entirely for awhile.

But I do get it. The problem isn't with the information, it's apparently with me or with the delivery or something. Strikes me as odd, but I really hope it's not something about nate feeling that women should be seen and not heard or something ... :shock Nah, that couldn't be it.

And, yes, the mysterious nate has got my blood up. On a physique forum I'm wondering why I can't find any pictures of someone so outspoken and opinionated! Other than a calf muscle, which is more schmoe than you know.

But I digress...

[JMP]

Like sands through the hour glass......LOL

[ironwill]

Well, no actually. I got no warnings of the sort other than some kindly meant advice from you, Will, months ago. What you said made sense, so I toned things down (or tried to...guess my perception differs from others, eh? But that's life.). But as far as an outright ban? No, I never got asked to stop posting anything here by anyone that I recall. David (nvrgvup) mentioned that things went south on a thread a long time ago and told me not to read it, so I quit posting on this board entirely for awhile.

But I do get it. The problem isn't with the information, it's apparently with me or with the delivery or something. Strikes me as odd, but I really hope it's not something about nate feeling that women should be seen and not heard or something ... :shock Nah, that couldn't be it.

And, yes, the mysterious nate has got my blood up. On a physique forum I'm wondering why I can't find any pictures of someone so outspoken and opinionated! Other than a calf muscle, which is more schmoe than you know.

But I digress...

No offense crystol88, i like having you here personally, and i hope dave posts up some goods......But here is the thread of which i was referring to....
http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?p=392511#post392511

[Durk]

Thanks for the help everyone

[O-Train]

Douche, err dude, I will say whatever the **** I want. When she stops with the CONSTANT need to continually bring Scott up then I will stop with my comments.

I have worked with Scott and I have ZERO problems with him. I have a problem with people who continually espouse the word from others instead of their own opinions.

So when Crystol can stop touting Scott as the second coming of Christ and post based on her own knowledge then I will stop with the comments. If you think my comments are annoying (which I'll agree they are) then try being one to has to read non-stop posts about her love affair with Scott. THAT is equally, if not more, annoying.

Dude, just put her on ignore. I did it the first week she got here. Works awesome.

[CMoney]

No offense crystol88, i like having you here personally, and i hope dave posts up some goods......But here is the thread of which i was referring to....
http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?p=392511#post392511

Yup, I did miss that in my extended absence. And I'm really sorry. :o Can I use the blond moment excuse?

The whole need to pay for advertising space on the forums kind of went over my head, but I understand it now. It does look like I'm schilling. I'm not, but appearances are everything, 'specially in this industry, eh?

My bad, ignore away. And good advice O-train. I'll put Calf Man on my ignore list and restrain myself from the Abel Worship on this board, even though everyone knows he's the best thing since Jesus Christ. :sarcasm smilie:

Good luck, Durk! Hope you kill those deads!