Just had a call from Health Canada

[physique]

once u are raided they just think they can call whenever they like i guess.

anyways, lady told me the next set of products that will soon be banned.
is any fat burner that contains synephrine, methyl-synephrine and caffeine.

That pretty much eliminate every single canadian made fat burner.

****ing pathetic

[faller]

So are they going to ban coffee next?? WTF is going on with these people?

[physique]

once u are raided they just think they can call whenever they like i guess.

anyways, lady told me the next set of products that will soon be banned.
is any fat burner that contains synephrine, methyl-synephrine and caffeine.

That pretty much eliminate every single canadian made fat burner.

****ing pathetic

[razorsedge]

Those ****in cocksuckers..most of those gov't workers should look in the mirror as they are the number one candidate for fat burners. Every second gov't ad on TV is about the "obese" society, obese children etc...god help somebody trains and uses a supplement to help them achieve a healthy looking body or overall appearance. Why don't they ban muffins for crying out loud...chocoalte bars too...thye're making people obese

They're hypocrites....you can still get cigarettes as I saw some today at the store..and I saw liquor today at the gov't agent store...they're real good for you. If you did away with cigs, some of that multi-billion dollar project called cancer research would suffer ...

People are still going to get them so they force people to cheat , lie, steal etc.

Its a Friday vent.....

[physique]

Those ****in cocksuckers..most of those gov't workers should look in the mirror as they are the number one candidate for fat burners. Every second gov't ad on TV is about the "obese" society, obese children etc...god help somebody trains and uses a supplement to help them achieve a healthy looking body or overall appearance. Why don't they ban muffins for crying out loud...chocoalte bars too...thye're making people obese

They're hypocrites....you can still get cigarettes as I saw some today at the store..and I saw liquor today at the gov't agent store...they're real good for you. If you did away with cigs, some of that multi-billion dollar project called cancer research would suffer ...

People are still going to get them so they force people to cheat , lie, steal etc.

Its a Friday vent.....

i actually lost it on the phone. u said basically what i said. people can smoke their brains out, get lung cancer and gobble down the money in health care, but u are worried because a few people had heart palpitaitions from syneprine and caffeine.
get your priorities straight already.

writing is on the wall i feel, that the natural health industry will be no more someday. hopefully it doenst happen till after i retire.

[Andre]

I saw that coming and posted about it a couple of weeks ago... none of them beats a good old ECA stack... it is pathetic and will only get worse!

[razorsedge]

It's stupid. Like to see those that had the heart palpitations too..none on this board I bet. It's so ****ed...ban all this shit...and sooner or later their going to legalize pot cause thats helpful for you and they'll tax it...thats why it will be legalized. Sounds stupid but rather than ban this stuff, impose a health tax...anything for fitness or good health like gym memberships, lifting gear, supplements..add a health tax like they do in hotels..a room tax..and then maybe they'll **** off...can u imagine the outrage..a tax for getting healthy. Maybe I'll run..

By the way Physique, you have this thread running twice so u may want a mod to put it all on one..

Keep ur head up and stuff it up their ass...fat bastards

[O-Train]

i actually lost it on the phone. u said basically what i said. people can smoke their brains out, get lung cancer and gobble down the money in health care, but u are worried because a few people had heart palpitaitions from syneprine and caffeine.
get your priorities straight already.

writing is on the wall i feel, that the natural health industry will be no more someday. hopefully it doenst happen till after i retire.

Their priorities are $$$. If the government was making money off of caffeine like they are on cigarettes and alcohol you better believe it would be just fine with them.

Just like with tax on gasoline. The government only wants people to drive hybrid and electric cars to make themselves look good. The bottom line is that as soon as it starts effecting their bottom line they'll figure out a tax to put on electric vehicles too (instead of subsidizing it like they do now). My bet is some ridiculous fees associated with the batteries. It's necessary to maintain the huge transportation infrastructure.

Figure out a way for the government to make money and they'd let you serve heroine in happy meals...in small doses of course :).

[Chaps]

once u are raided they just think they can call whenever they like i guess.

anyways, lady told me the next set of products that will soon be banned.
is any fat burner that contains synephrine, methyl-synephrine and caffeine.

That pretty much eliminate every single canadian made fat burner.

****ing pathetic

so no synephrine or methyl synephrine+ caffeine or no caffiene allowed in burners period?

[faller]

We have to stop grouping alcohol with smokes. Some wine or beer have health benefits unlike cigarettes. Any harm that comes from alcohol use comes from abuse, and retarded laws that won't punish those that do..

[O-Train]

We have to stop grouping alcohol with smokes. Some wine or beer have health benefits unlike cigarettes. Any harm that comes from alcohol use comes from abuse, and retarded laws that won't punish those that do..

Alcohol has no health benefits. It's poison faller, plan and simple. You can't add poison to something that's healthy and argue that the poison made it good for you. I can see the point you're trying to make but moderate and responsible use has never been the issue. Alcohol deserves it's place and I'll argue that all day long.

Did you know that if you took an average alcoholic beverage and replaced the alcohol with caffeine (gram for gram) depending on your weight it may kill you. This is the reason the government is looking to control it. Stupid people take a lot and it kills them or almost does. Which brings us back to the topic of moderation.

[O-Train]

I'm not intentionally being argumentative it's just that your line of reasoning requires there to be a lack of people capable of doing stupid things. Which I think is unreasonable.

[Gawd]

Wow thats stupid.
I can imagine how pissed off that call would of made you.

[physique]

so no synephrine or methyl synephrine+ caffeine or no caffiene allowed in burners period?

from what they told me, caffeine will be allowed in fat burners. but synephrine wont be.

next on their ban list too is 1,3 Dimethylamylamine. this is what gives you that hyper feeling. its in products like razor 8, 1mr, jacked 3d

[razorsedge]

That last item 1,3 D is what the junior hockey players just got the 8 game suspension for as it is in the jacked 3 drink...its on the banned substance list for athletes but not listed on the container..

[physique]

That last item 1,3 D is what the junior hockey players just got the 8 game suspension for as it is in the jacked 3 drink...its on the banned substance list for athletes but not listed on the container..

u know i have never looked at the label on jack3d. i know its listed on the razor 8 label and the 1MR label.

there are many more companies using this ingredient too. I jsut listed our top 3 sellers

[kawikaratekid]

I'll say it again. The government is the biggest organized crime syndicate in the world. As they limit more and more of our choice the only word that keeps popping into my mind is tyranny.

[Bomani]

I ****ing hate health Canada ... just saying...

[Mr.Freeze]

That last item 1,3 D is what the junior hockey players just got the 8 game suspension for as it is in the jacked 3 drink...its on the banned substance list for athletes but not listed on the container..

yes it is listed on the container.

Proprietary Blend 4145mg *
(Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate, Creatine Monohydrate, Beta Alanine, Caffeine, 1,3-Dimethylamylamine (Geranium [Stem], Shizandrol A)

[mouth]

from what they told me, caffeine will be allowed in fat burners. but synephrine wont be.

next on their ban list too is 1,3 Dimethylamylamine. this is what gives you that hyper feeling. its in products like razor 8, 1mr, jacked 3d

Crap! Should I start to stock up on Jacked now?

[physique]

Crap! Should I start to stock up on Jacked now?

no. will take them around a year or more to get that ingredient pulled.

[moh2010]

What a ****ing joke.

They should really look into pharmaceutical drugs and food, not caffeine and geranium in supplements.

Take a look at the new McBiskit "breakfast" sandwich. 37g of fat, 19g of saturated fat, 1140mg of sodium. Most of the people takes two with a coffee. Thats 40g of saturated fat and 2280mg of sodium... THIS SHOULD BE ILLEGAL, not ****ing caffeine!

[IronMan]

What a ****ing joke.

They should really look into pharmaceutical drugs and food, not caffeine and geranium in supplements.

Take a look at the new McBiskit "breakfast" sandwich. 37g of fat, 19g of saturated fat, 1140mg of sodium. Most of the people takes two with a coffee. Thats 40g of saturated fat and 2280mg of sodium... THIS SHOULD BE ILLEGAL, not ****ing caffeine!



I totally agree with you there Moh. People should be smart and use supplements that are stimulants and such with caution and responsibly, like read the label and follow the freaking directions. But the fast food industry and the processed/refined, GMO shit foods in our society are much more dangerous for our health. As well as cigarettes and alcohol abuse. The Health Canada needs to definitely get their priorities straight and focus on the correct things.