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physique
27-01-2011, 03:23 PM
i am going to start posting things on how Bill-36 affects us all. Seeing as there are some people on this site who seem to think this is great for the industry. You need to read deeper into the bill and see its not good for anyone but big pharma. Now another bill has rose its ugly head bill-51.

HEALTH FREEDOM: 2011 THE YEAR OF COMPLIANCE? OR NO COMPROMISE.
Have we had enough yet, or do we need to lose more products, industry stakeholders and freedoms before we are willing to act?

What can the natural health industry expect next from Health Canada? And what must be done?


Shawn Buckley's keynote lecture will address what must be done now to change tactics, ramp up the engagement of Canadians and protect the interests of industry stakeholders.

Government policies are restricting your access to natural health products and your choice of ordinary consumer products, and practitioners tools, more than ever before. A decade ago, the government promised suitable regulations for the low-risk nature of natural health products; and this promise has been broken. The regulations the government implemented instead were created for dangerous chemical pharmaceuticals. These are both fundamentally wrong in their approach and destructive. Not only to the natural products industry in Canada but to the consumers who rely on them, some for life or death conditions. We are all losing the option to choose what we know works for our ourselves, our clients and our families health and well-being.

In fact, the stakes have never been so high. Only months from now, Health Canada is set to take unprecedented enforcement action. CCPSA (Bill C-36) has been law for just over a month and on its heels, the NHP industry has been alerted to Health Canada's new incarnation of legislation like Bill C-51.

We stand at the edge of losing our rights and freedoms in so many areas, most dangerously in the way we are able to treat our own bodies.

Gawd
27-01-2011, 03:29 PM
Really getting out of hand.

physique
27-01-2011, 03:32 PM
so people are aware of what this bill is. heres the breakdown. This is a bill that will be used as a stepping stone to eventually get rid of the natural supplement industry. I will also post bill C-51

Bill C-36 is almost identical to Bill C-52 which had been introduced into the 39th Parliament on April 8, 2008, and to Bill C-6 which had been introduced into the 40th Parliament on January 29, 2009.

Summary of Points Discussed In This Paper

■The rule of law is the fundamental underpinning of a free society. Sacrificing the rule of law always leads to tyranny and loss of freedom.
■The Bill represents an unprecedented change in the powers of the state vis-à-vis the citizen. The rule of law and private property rights are all but extinguished in the area of consumer products.
■Although not applicable to natural health products, the Bill still poses a threat. The Bill gives Health Canada inspectors the very powers that concerned citizens in Bill C-51.
■Bill C-36 is being promoted as necessary to protect our families. However, under the existing law the State can already:
■ban or restrict any consumer product under threat of million dollar fines and two year jail sentences under the Hazardous Products Act;
■make immediate orders banning or restricting any consumer product if there is a significant risk to health or safety. In addition to fines and imprisonment for non-compliance, the State can apply to the Court for an injunction which brings police enforcement of the order;
■obtain a search warrant and seize non-compliant products, and
■prosecute for criminal negligence or homicide under the Criminal Code. In some cases this can result in penalties of life imprisonment.
■The real change brought about by Bill C-36 is not that it protects consumers, as the cur-rent law already grants the State significant powers to protect safety. Rather the real change is the abolition of procedural safeguards citizens currently enjoy.
■Bill C-36 abolishes the law of trespass thus allowing the State access onto private property without any legal recourse.
■Bill C-36 for the first time in Canadian history allows warrants to be issued to search private homes without evidence of criminal wrong doing.
■Bill C-36 allows the State to seize property without a Court order, without reporting the seizure to a Court, and for an indefinite period.
■Bill C-36 allows the State to assume control over the movement of private property without a Court order and without a safety concern.
■The search and seizure powers in Bill C-36 are probably unconstitutional for violating the right found in section 8 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms to be free from unreasonable search and seizure.
■Persons can be fined and have property forfeited to the State for administrative violations. Persons so charged have no right to have a Court determine their guilt or innocence. Guilt is determined by the Minister. There is no defence of due diligence or of honest but mistaken belief. There does not have to be a safety risk to be charged with an administrative offence. The Minister who determines your guilt or innocence can keep seized property if he/she finds you guilty.
■Directors, officers and managers are personally liable for violations by their company. Despite the possibility of multi-million dollar fines and long prison sentences, there is no right to cross-examine key witnesses.
■Directors, officers and managers can be saddled with debt years after they have left the company.
■Orders for recall or which take control of private property are exempted from the procedural safeguards of (1) review and (2) publication found in the Statutory Instruments Act.
■All businesses manufacturing, selling or distributing consumer products are saddled with additional red tape and expense regardless of whether or not there is a safety concern.
■Retailers and distributors of consumer products become liable for product labelling and instructions.
■There may be a significant conflict of interest. Health Canada may benefit financially from fines and the seizure of private property.
■Some consumer products such as sporting goods may have to be removed from the market for violating the safety provisions of the Bill.
■The Provinces are allowing the Federal Government to regulate in the Provincial area of property and civil rights. This represents a significant transfer of power from the Provinces to the Federal Government.
■The federal cabinet can incorporate documents from foreign governments or organizations as law by referring to them in regulations. This will remove Parliamentary scrutiny on issues that could fundamentally change the ground rules for the consumer product industry.
■Trade agreements and foreign laws can be adopted without Parliamentary scrutiny.

physique
27-01-2011, 03:39 PM
having trouble finding a breakdown of the bill that is easy to read.

so i will post the link to where it is. i will also post the link of the draft that Shawn Buckley and the NHPPA want to bring to the attention of HC and government.

link to bill C-51
http://www2.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?DocId=3398126&

link to Complete Draft Discussion Paper on Bill C-51
http://nhppa.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/draft_discussion_paper_on_bill_c-51.pdf

BMac
27-01-2011, 06:09 PM
this is just ridiculous...hopefully they can get it to court and win