quick question about 1st time cycle.

[jhunt]

ive been doing some research about this for alittle while now and still dont know what is a better choice..

1) it has been suggested for my 1st time cycle to start with test-cypionate and winstrol together for a 10 week period with proviron or nolvadex

2) also suggested 1st time cycle to start with test-enanthate and anavar with something like proviron or nolvadex similar 10 week period

looking for alittle more advice..

i am 31 yrs 5'11 185 lbs. been weight training off/on for over 10 years and in pretty good shape to begin with/diet good as well... i am looking for solid mass gain but dont wanna over do it too quickly..

thanks for reading.. your feed back is greatly appreciated

[juced_porkchop]

you got one part right firts cycle is good ot be test, dosent matter if its cyp or eth. ether or is the same in its effects.

also you dont need an oral.
deff nto winny.
i would rec this:
wk1-12 500mg test cyp OR eth
wk1-13 50mg proviron ed (provirion is not liver toxic and is nice run with test, winny and anavar are liver toxic)
for an oral i would say anavar over winny 100% but better yet 30-40mg tbol ed for the first 4 or 6 weeks.

[Praetorian]

Keep it simple...

250mg long ester test twice weekly. Proviron was fine in its day but is quite redundant nowadays with the advent of third generation aromatase inhibitors...get some Aromasin to keep on hand and only use if you see signs of aromatization...ie gyno...at 500mg test per week you shouldn't see much to be honest. Orals are unnecessary..diet and traning will make most of the difference.
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[massabsamurai]

Post your diet. ^ Listen to him.

[bigtavi8]

haha edit oops im still half asleep

[massabsamurai]

^ wrong thread perhaps? lol